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Re: Isco

Postby Socrates » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:15 pm

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Spend more, spend more, tits, pussy, fanny, get your dick out, spend more. What's not to get? Shall I wait here while you go get the rest of your idiot mates and form a posse?


Dickcheese. Do the maths. Pay the agent bungs and have Hazard and Isco or buy Javi Garcia, Rodwell and Sinclair etc. I know which I'd prefer.

No brainer.

Btw where's the misogyny? I can actually hold a conversation with a smart, talented, strong, beautiful woman. You probably shart yourself at the daydream while having a wank to Roddy Fucking Frame.

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But that busts the budget and goes against stated policy. Using words that describe female body parts as insults and use of male body parts to demonstrate strength are misogynistic. It's a football forum and I expect to see such language on here but every fucking post is tiresome and shows a total lack of imagination. I trust you cover up your lack of respect when conversing with these amazing women?
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Re: Isco

Postby ant london » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:13 pm

Socrates wrote:
Spend more, spend more, tits, pussy, fanny, get your dick out, spend more. What's not to get? Shall I wait here while you go get the rest of your idiot mates and form a posse?



"Idiot mates"...how very dare you, have some more respect when referring to the "Blue Klux Klan".

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Re: Isco

Postby Socrates » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:17 pm

ant london wrote:
"Idiot mates"...how very dare you, have some more respect when referring to the "Blue Klux Klan".

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Re: Isco

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:21 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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Hazard, Isco, Silva and Navas providing the creative element. That's the kind of strength and depth needed at the position if we are to challenge for Cl and league title at the same time. But if we now sign someone equivalent of Scott Sinclair instead we are only adding numbers not quality.

When they see something they need to go and get it.


The problem is, Isco seemed to be our top target for that position, like Cavani for the striker role.

Which players are equivalent to these two that are realistically available?


That was the point I was trying to make. There are few dozen, under 50 anyway, players who would improve us at all. When suitable playeris available we need to bag them. TThat's the job of the Spaniards.

It is their job but do we not have to accept that there are still about 10 teams who are either bigger than us or on our level and thus when one of these players becomes available we are almost always going to face competition and sometimes miss out.
We are still the new kid at this level and as of yet don't have the reputation of a Madrid, Barcelona, Munich, Milan or even Rags yet amongst others.
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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:12 pm

Socrates wrote:
ant london wrote:
"Idiot mates"...how very dare you, have some more respect when referring to the "Blue Klux Klan".

Rock out with your cock out


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Re: Isco

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Re: Isco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:38 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Risby wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Hazard, Isco, Silva and Navas providing the creative element. That's the kind of strength and depth needed at the position if we are to challenge for Cl and league title at the same time. But if we now sign someone equivalent of Scott Sinclair instead we are only adding numbers not quality.

When they see something they need to go and get it.


The problem is, Isco seemed to be our top target for that position, like Cavani for the striker role.

Which players are equivalent to these two that are realistically available?


That was the point I was trying to make. There are few dozen, under 50 anyway, players who would improve us at all. When suitable playeris available we need to bag them. TThat's the job of the Spaniards.

It is their job but do we not have to accept that there are still about 10 teams who are either bigger than us or on our level and thus when one of these players becomes available we are almost always going to face competition and sometimes miss out.
We are still the new kid at this level and as of yet don't have the reputation of a Madrid, Barcelona, Munich, Milan or even Rags yet amongst others.


There are NOT ten teams in the world who have bigger pulling power than us. Absolutely not. What a defeatist thing to say.
Real and Barcelona for sure. Unfortunately Rags as well. Bayern have great power among German lads and bundesleague has become third best league in the world. Chelsea are about on par with us. That's it. Any Italian team right now is financially and competitively irrelevant.

So basically we are fighting with five teams, three of them having clearly better pulling power than us. Now correct me if you think I'm wrong but weren't Spaniards brought into put us in same level with them?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Isco

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:23 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:So basically we are fighting with five teams, three of them having clearly better pulling power than us. Now correct me if you think I'm wrong but weren't Spaniards brought into put us in same level with them?


The only thing that will give us as much pulling power as them is success on the field.

Soriano was brought in to get our financial house in order so that we can compete at the top sustainably.

Txiki was brought in because he has shown he has the vision to help build a successful squad.
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:41 am

Not sure if its greater pulling power, but we have seen a very brave approach from certain clubs. I think we have a great squad but still lack an iconic shirt, We need that massive signing that player or two which sends a message. Berigistain needs that IMHO.
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Re: Isco

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Spanish press reporting he will have his medical on July 3rd
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Re: Isco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:57 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:So basically we are fighting with five teams, three of them having clearly better pulling power than us. Now correct me if you think I'm wrong but weren't Spaniards brought into put us in same level with them?


The only thing that will give us as much pulling power as them is success on the field.

Soriano was brought in to get our financial house in order so that we can compete at the top sustainably.

Txiki was brought in because he has shown he has the vision to help build a successful squad.


And we will NOT achieve the kind of success, essentially winning the Champion's League, with current squad. We are just not good enough yet. World class creative spark and top quality striker and we could start talking. Getting some below top quality additions will not help us take that push.
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Isco

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:46 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:So basically we are fighting with five teams, three of them having clearly better pulling power than us. Now correct me if you think I'm wrong but weren't Spaniards brought into put us in same level with them?


The only thing that will give us as much pulling power as them is success on the field.

Soriano was brought in to get our financial house in order so that we can compete at the top sustainably.

Txiki was brought in because he has shown he has the vision to help build a successful squad.


And we will NOT achieve the kind of success, essentially winning the Champion's League, with current squad. We are just not good enough yet. World class creative spark and top quality striker and we could start talking. Getting some below top quality additions will not help us take that push.


We already have a world class creative spark, one of the world's best in fact.

We also have one of the best strikers in the world.

The squad needs reinvigorating but doesn't necessarily need marquee names. If we're smart we'll buy players to compliment the world class spine we already have in our team. Fernandinho and Navas are a good start as they adress two of the most glaring weaknesses in our squad, I'm looking forward to seeing who else we bring in.
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Re: Isco

Postby ashton287 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:20 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
We already have a world class creative spark, one of the world's best in fact.

We also have one of the best strikers in the world.

The squad needs reinvigorating but doesn't necessarily need marquee names. If we're smart we'll buy players to compliment the world class spine we already have in our team. Fernandinho and Navas are a good start as they adress two of the most glaring weaknesses in our squad, I'm looking forward to seeing who else we bring in.


Unfortunately we don't. We had one of the worlds best creative players for about 5/6 months. Then he burnt out and he's been hit and miss with not enough hit ever since.

Aguero was shit last season. His injury was no excuse either. He had chance after chance after chance that he fluffed and fucked up.

We are nowhere near good enough to win the champions league yet. There better strikers and better creative players just in the prem never mind the rest of Europe.
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Re: Isco

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:27 am

ashton287 wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
We already have a world class creative spark, one of the world's best in fact.

We also have one of the best strikers in the world.

The squad needs reinvigorating but doesn't necessarily need marquee names. If we're smart we'll buy players to compliment the world class spine we already have in our team. Fernandinho and Navas are a good start as they adress two of the most glaring weaknesses in our squad, I'm looking forward to seeing who else we bring in.


Unfortunately we don't. We had one of the worlds best creative players for about 5/6 months. Then he burnt out and he's been hit and miss with not enough hit ever since.

Aguero was shit last season. His injury was no excuse either. He had chance after chance after chance that he fluffed and fucked up.

We are nowhere near good enough to win the champions league yet. There better strikers and better creative players just in the prem never mind the rest of Europe.


I didn't say we're good enough to win the CL, progression beyond the group stages will do for me, for now.

Has one average season suddenly turned Aguero into a shit player then?

Silva burnt out? I accept he's probably feeling the effects of not having a proper break the last few years but he's far from burnt out. Hopefully he will be managed better from a physical pov under Pellegrini. I suggested this on here before and was shot down but I believe Tevez took up the space in which Silva thrives and hampered his game as a result, with Tevez gone I expect to see Silva finding them pockets of space again where he is devastating.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:42 am

Aguero should be a lot better than he was last season but imo, he is often not fully fit.

Silva has lost inspiration through playing too much football, in two one dimensional teams, against packed defences.

He can of course get it back but the best current way for that to happen would be for him to play less games & for Nasri to step up. Even better would be to sign or create a player for his position who is better than him & make him fight for a place in the team.

We may chase the title if we sign another striker but we are several players short of the Champions League.
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:52 am

With a centre forward a centre half or two as we have lost one, a back up keeper we will be a threat the manager will be more of an influence than Mancini who by the end had lost the squad. For me anyway Give Dortmund the fee stop arsing about lets get the players in.
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Re: Isco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:44 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Aguero should be a lot better than he was last season but imo, he is often not fully fit.

Silva has lost inspiration through playing too much football, in two one dimensional teams, against packed defences.

He can of course get it back but the best current way for that to happen would be for him to play less games & for Nasri to step up. Even better would be to sign or create a player for his position who is better than him & make him fight for a place in the team.

We may chase the title if we sign another striker but we are several players short of the Champions League.


This.

We lack QUALITY depth in both positions and expect Silva and Aguero to perform in nearly 60 games every season. Our starting XI could compete with just about any team in the world in one off game but during demanding season we have basically no one to take the pressure off Silva. People will say Nasri and Milner but look at really top teams. When Özil is out of form or just injured they can always throw Modric or even Isco there. When Xavi is off the line up Barcelona can always throw Fabregas or Busquets there.

And whoever said "I'm satisfied with getting out of the CL group". I'm pretty sure that's not what top brass are gunning for even if it's good enough for some supporters.
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Re: Isco

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:01 am

Ok, fuck it, let's just spend, spend, spend. Money is no object, right? I want that one and that one and that one.

Maybe if we do that we can have a squad as good as the Liverpool or Chelsea one that won the Champions League.
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Re: Isco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:47 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ok, fuck it, let's just spend, spend, spend. Money is no object, right? I want that one and that one and that one.

Maybe if we do that we can have a squad as good as the Liverpool or Chelsea one that won the Champions League.


Yeah, well if we really want to win the Champion's League then we need to spend, spend, spend. Otherwise it's not going to happen. Winning Champion's League isn't really my personal target but target for the owners. "Global domination" you know.
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Re: Isco

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ok, fuck it, let's just spend, spend, spend. Money is no object, right? I want that one and that one and that one.

Maybe if we do that we can have a squad as good as the Liverpool or Chelsea one that won the Champions League.


Yeah, well if we really want to win the Champion's League then we need to spend, spend, spend. Otherwise it's not going to happen. Winning Champion's League isn't really my personal target but target for the owners. "Global domination" you know.


Cl should be every fans uiltimate target you numpty.

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