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Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:30 pm
by bigblue
Being disloyal in the middle of our league campaign, finding a safe future in case he was sacked, or a bit of both?

Either way he won us the league and this changes very little for me. Just signed a new 5 year contract. In Bob I trust.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... ini-monaco

The Manchester City manager, Roberto Mancini, held extensive negotiations with Monaco with a view to joining the club at the end of last season. The talks, lasting almost three months, led to Monaco believing he would join them and can be revealed for the first time .

The details of the extraordinary negotiations have been disclosed to the Guardian, corroborated at the highest level, and suggest that Mancini was close to accepting Monaco's offer, before opting to stay at City when his team overhauled Manchester United to clinch their first title since 1968.

The five-year contract, put forward during a meeting in Rome, was tax-free with Monaco's majority shareholder, the Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev, willing to pay Mancini €8m (£6.4m) a year, plus substantial bonuses, if he left the Etihad Stadium. Rybolovlev, ranked 100th on the Forbes list of billionaires, bought his majority stake in Monaco in December 2011 and is determined to use his wealth to return the club to the Champions League after a difficult period in which the 2004 finalists have dropped into Ligue 2.

Mancini was involved in secret talks, tempted with a financial package that would have meant there were only two other managers in the world, Carlo Ancelotti at Paris Saint-Germain and Guus Hiddink at FC Anzhi Makhachkala, on higher salaries.

Mancini eventually signed a new five-year contract at City in July, but not before Monaco had formed the distinct impression he was willing to sever his ties with his current club. The Italian is hugely popular with City's supporters, winning the FA Cup in his first full season after replacing Mark Hughes and following that by steering them to the league title. His position has started to come under scrutiny recently because of City's difficulties in the Champions League, and briefly did so at one point towards the end of last season, but until now there has never been any indication that, at any stage, he has already been considering his next move.

It may be that Mancini, who declined to comment, was simply hedging his bets in case he lost his job at the Etihad Stadium and regarded Monaco as the next best alternative. The information supplied to this newspaper, however, states that all terms of a prospective contract with Monaco had been agreed. Monaco, in short, were convinced they had got their man.

The negotiations began at the turn of the year, according to high-level sources with access to the figures involved, and the final meeting took place in Rome shortly after the 1-0 defeat for City at Arsenal in early April, a result that left Mancini's team eight points behind United in the title race.

Mancini accepted after that game that City had all but lost the league and in the coming days well-placed sources confirmed that his position could not be guaranteed and would be reviewed at the end of the season. Mancini's job was described as potentially at risk should City tail off in the final six games and finish even further off the top.

Instead, United surrendered their lead and City won the title courtesy of Sergio Agüero's stoppage-time winner against Queens Park Rangers in the final game. It was after that victory that Monaco were informed Mancini was no longer interested in their vacancy. The seven-times French champions appointed Claudio Ranieri two weeks later on a two-year deal, with the option for a further 12 months, saying "he clearly emerged as the outstanding candidate". Stefano Pioli, the Bologna coach, was also discussed when it came to replacing Marco Simone. Mancini, however, was the first choice.

Rybolovlev took over at Monaco at a recent nadir in their history, with the club bottom of Ligue 2 and in serious danger of falling into the third tier of French football. They recovered to finish eighth last season and Ranieri has taken them to the top of the table 12 games into the new campaign.

Mancini, who was also prominently linked with the Russia national job before Fabio Capello's appointment in July, has continued the business of trying to turn City into the major force of English football. City are third in the league, unbeaten after nine games, but have only a solitary point from their three Champions League fixtures against Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund and Ajax and sit at the bottom of their group, facing the distinct possibility they might not even qualify for the Europa League.

At the same time City, who also declined to comment, have appointed Txiki Begiristain as their new director of football. Begiristain previously worked at Barcelona, as did City's new chief executive, Ferran Soriano. That, in turn, has led to increased speculation about Pep Guardiola's potential availability at the end of the season.

The revelations about the Monaco job are not linked to that but, equally, they will not help Mancini when it comes to his relationship with the relevant people in Abu Dhabi. The club's owners are known to be concerned about the team's failures in Europe but Mancini's difficulties have been predominantly with Brian Marwood, the club's football administrator with responsibility for transfers, and the previous chief executive, Garry Cook. Marwood has since been demoted after the appointment of Begiristain.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:34 pm
by mcfc1632
What most people do in all walks of life..........

Had we not won the league - would he have been given the 5 year contract?? If that was certain then there would have been no point in the Monaco discussions - so logically it could not have been.

Therefore sensible career planning I would suggest

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:38 pm
by Dameerto
Hedging his bets - he would have got better terms negotiating while still employed by us than if he waited until he was sacked. I don't hold it against him.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:43 pm
by Mase
He doesn't owe us anything.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:48 pm
by Nigels Tackle
Mase wrote:He doesn't owe us anything.


do you mean that city doesn't mean as much to him as it does you and me?

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:53 pm
by Mase
Nigels Tackle wrote:
do you mean that city doesn't mean as much to him as it does you and me?


Not unless I see a City tattoo on his ankle in the next few weeks!

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:54 pm
by Piccsnumberoneblue
Shame.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:13 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
C'est la vie, as they say in Fallowfield. Nothing untoward in what he's done, especially if he was expecting the worst at the end of the season.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:24 pm
by Alex Sapphire
ees normal

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:05 pm
by Swales4ever
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
do you mean that city doesn't mean as much to him as it does you and me?


Not unless I see a City tattoo on his ankle in the next few weeks!


this. [hate tatoos myself btw, but it's a perfect metaphora]
plus - honestly I stopped reading at "corroborated at the highest level" - are we sure it's true?
perhaps it's me that I am more City than Mancini, but why a manager should quit the City job unless shown the door?... just to get a pay raise from huge money to huge money + a little more? Is there a more challenging, demanding, exiting job for a manager, out of the Blues? I don't think so, blue tinted glasses or not.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:16 pm
by Beefymcfc
I don't believe that shit for one second. They state that they started negotiations in the New Year, a time that we were still well above in the league. Now, if you're a driven character would you really be thinking about 'Cut and Run' when you are top of the biggest league in the world.

It goes on to say that United gave up the league to us, not that they lost points that was normal for them and the we won every game to take it.

Shit story, reminds me of the 'Mancini to Russia Contract Locked in Secret Drawer' bullshit.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:18 pm
by chips
Alex Sapphire wrote:ees normal

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:34 pm
by Hazy2
The story breaks a day afrer rags lose.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:05 pm
by City64
Yet more bollox .

Monaco , wow what a career move that would have been . Cant believe a speculative journo didnt link our Bobby Manc with the Blackburn job aswell ? Monaco only get half the attendance Blackburn get ..... they do play in a shit league like Blackburn though so there must be a link there somewhere ????? What a joke !!!!

Has anyone actually thought Bobby Manc would now get THE PICK of any top job in European football if god forbid he did leave City ?

Im quite looking forward Mancini,s next press conference , hopefully he will want to put a few straight on a few things .

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:31 pm
by getdressedmctavish
Bob will be gone er long. To another top job. So what. The owners dont like him much. Neither do the players. But he doesn't care. That's modern day football. Anyone thinks differently is deluding themselves.City and the fans will still be there.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:00 pm
by City64
Indeed !

Roberto is also very passionate . Managing a no hope team infront of 8,000 fans in a no hope league ? Not a chance !

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:46 pm
by Dameerto
Daniel Taylor, the 'journalist' behind that story is also a published author, here is one of his books entitled: "This Is The One: Sir Alex Ferguson: The Uncut Story of a Football Genius"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-One-Fergus ... 1845133544

Kind of puts the news story into context I think.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:51 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Dameerto wrote:Daniel Taylor, the 'journalist' behind that story is also a published author, here is one of his books entitled: "This Is The One: Sir Alex Ferguson: The Uncut Story of a Football Genius"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-One-Fergus ... 1845133544

Kind of puts the news story into context I think.


He's written two books on the the Govan piss-can. But I think he's currently banned from Legoland by said piss-can. Either way, he's trying to make trouble for us.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:58 pm
by Goaters 103
And thus the holy trinity of City shit stirring articles is complete for this part of the season.

Last week we had The Mirrors annual "player revolt" at City piece; earlier this week we had The Telegraph and their "Results must improve" for Mancini to keep his job, and now we have the Mancini wanted to leave or was almost gone article. All boxes ticked.

Check back with the media in Feb, when if we are still in the top 3 Id expect a plethora of "No team spirit at City" pieces, or the inevitable "City havent got the bottle/title winning experience" from ex-Red legends like Billy Garton, Clayton Blackmore, Robson or Ralph Milne.

Re: Mancini was in talks with Monaco *possible bollox*

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:34 am
by SmallTimeCharlie
"It may be that Mancini, who declined to comment, was simply hedging his bets in case he lost his job at the Etihad Stadium."