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So honest. If he hadn't tried to stay on his feet and taken the fall, that would have been an ironclad penalty. What was he trying to prove ??
I also wonder is there no advantage given in a penalty situation. What I mean is that Kun tried to play on but there was clear foul on him (not once but twice) so why no penalty ?

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Great minds indeed Beefy. Talk about exact timing !!

Dubaimancityfan wrote:So honest. If he hadn't tried to stay on his feet and taken the fall, that would have been an ironclad penalty. What was he trying to prove ??
I also wonder is there no advantage given in a penalty situation. What I mean is that Kun tried to play on but there was clear foul on him (not once but twice) so why no penalty ?

staying on his feet vs QPR a couple months back made all the difference in the world. I commend him for always considering a shot on target more important than guessing whether the ref will award him a penalty.

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DoomMerchant wrote:

Dubaimancityfan wrote:So honest. If he hadn't tried to stay on his feet and taken the fall, that would have been an ironclad penalty. What was he trying to prove ??
I also wonder is there no advantage given in a penalty situation. What I mean is that Kun tried to play on but there was clear foul on him (not once but twice) so why no penalty ?

staying on his feet vs QPR a couple months back made all the difference in the world. I commend him for always considering a shot on target more important than guessing whether the ref will award him a penalty.

cheers

I thought of that one Doomie but today's was somewhat different. A clear foul and he was too unbalanced to take the shot. Take a tumble and Dean would've had no choice but to point to the spot.

Dubaimancityfan wrote:

DoomMerchant wrote:

Dubaimancityfan wrote:So honest. If he hadn't tried to stay on his feet and taken the fall, that would have been an ironclad penalty. What was he trying to prove ??
I also wonder is there no advantage given in a penalty situation. What I mean is that Kun tried to play on but there was clear foul on him (not once but twice) so why no penalty ?

staying on his feet vs QPR a couple months back made all the difference in the world. I commend him for always considering a shot on target more important than guessing whether the ref will award him a penalty.

cheers

I thought of that one Doomie but today's was somewhat different. A clear foul and he was too unbalanced to take the shot. Take a tumble and Dean would've had no choice but to point to the spot.

you don't know that you can't take the shot until you can't take the shot. He thought he could stay on his feet and get a touch. You don't know you're wrong until the moment has passed. I support his decisions to stay on his feet as much as he can.

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DoomMerchant wrote:
you don't know that you can't take the shot until you can't take the shot. He thought he could stay on his feet and get a touch. You don't know you're wrong until the moment has passed. I support his decisions to stay on his feet as much as he can.

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oh yes, Amen brother!

DoomMerchant wrote:

Dubaimancityfan wrote:

DoomMerchant wrote:

Dubaimancityfan wrote:So honest. If he hadn't tried to stay on his feet and taken the fall, that would have been an ironclad penalty. What was he trying to prove ??
I also wonder is there no advantage given in a penalty situation. What I mean is that Kun tried to play on but there was clear foul on him (not once but twice) so why no penalty ?

staying on his feet vs QPR a couple months back made all the difference in the world. I commend him for always considering a shot on target more important than guessing whether the ref will award him a penalty.

cheers

I thought of that one Doomie but today's was somewhat different. A clear foul and he was too unbalanced to take the shot. Take a tumble and Dean would've had no choice but to point to the spot.

you don't know that you can't take the shot until you can't take the shot. He thought he could stay on his feet and get a touch. You don't know you're wrong until the moment has passed. I support his decisions to stay on his feet as much as he can.

cheers

It says a lot about his self belief, he thinks if he gets a shot away he is going to score, so he'd rather get his shot away instead of doing an 'ashley young'

I hope he's going to continue his good form after the injury. I really hope so. If he doesn't, I have faith in Tevez and ED. Balotelli needs to get serious and work harder.

bhfanatic wrote:I hope he's going to continue his good form after the injury. I really hope so. If he doesn't, I have faith in Tevez and ED. Balotelli needs to get serious and work harder.

This was nowhere near an Ashley 'gust of wind and I'm all over it' young. Just seen it again on MOTD and is a nailed on pen, he should of gone down as the angle had been made tougher by the challenge

All credit to him as he took quite a knock to be fair but if he goes down and makes it 2-0 is a different ball game

Spurge wrote:
It says a lot about his self belief, he thinks if he gets a shot away he is going to score, so he'd rather get his shot away instead of doing an 'ashley young'

Meant to quote this btw ha!

Grandad Rosler wrote:

Spurge wrote:
It says a lot about his self belief, he thinks if he gets a shot away he is going to score, so he'd rather get his shot away instead of doing an 'ashley young'

Meant to quote this btw ha!

Yeah, you got me quite confused!!

Whilst diving is considered a greater threat to civilisation than terrorism, it's worth noting that a foul is a foul, whether the player stays on his feet or not, and the whistle should be at the ref's lips ready to blow for a pen. Doesn't happen of course, so I don't blame forwards for taking a tumble if a defender fouls them. If referees would do there job properly there would be the need to dive and dives would be easier to police.

Lev Bronstein wrote:Whilst diving is considered a greater threat to civilisation than terrorism, it's worth noting that a foul is a foul, whether the player stays on his feet or not, and the whistle should be at the ref's lips ready to blow for a pen. Doesn't happen of course, so I don't blame forwards for taking a tumble if a defender fouls them. If referees would do there job properly there would be the need to dive and dives would be easier to police.

eggsackly. i won't begrudge a player for falling over when he's clearly been fouled, but i prefer the grit of Aguero who fancies his chances with the ball than risking a ref's judgement call, which is in my opinion maybe 50/50 even if you feel you've been fouled. It's selfish yet hard working to do what Kun does instead.

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refs job to call that penalty. The excuse of "playing advantage" is bullshit because aguero impeded by that tackle to the point where anything he did afterwards would be affected. To me that negates any sense of playing on, because arsenal have gained an advantage. It's not like a foul in midfield where the ball rolls to another player on the same team and attack continues.

That is a nailed on penalty and it is total bullshit that it wasn't given. Fucking poor ref.

kinkylola wrote:refs job to call that penalty. The excuse of "playing advantage" is bullshit because aguero impeded by that tackle to the point where anything he did afterwards would be affected. To me that negates any sense of playing on, because arsenal have gained an advantage. It's not like a foul in midfield where the ball rolls to another player on the same team and attack continues.

That is a nailed on penalty and it is total bullshit that it wasn't given. Fucking poor ref.

I can understand why a penalty was not given. Aguero did have a chance to shoot after all and this is proven by the shot that he got off. However I must say I would have given it. The "advantage" thing is not "Can you let play go on?", but "Is the team offended against better off if you let play go on?" I genuinely think the ref thought we were better off having Aguero shoot than giving a penalty. And there is a reasonable case for it even though I disagree. And if he's off-balance, miskicks it and it goes in it is hailed as a great bit of refereeing.

Mike Dean is the best referee in this country by a clear margin but of course no-one gets everything right.

And Aguero was definitely right to stay on his feet and try and get a shot in.

Grandad Rosler wrote:

bhfanatic wrote:I hope he's going to continue his good form after the injury. I really hope so. If he doesn't, I have faith in Tevez and ED. Balotelli needs to get serious and work harder.

This was nowhere near an Ashley 'gust of wind and I'm all over it' young. Just seen it again on MOTD and is a nailed on pen, he should of gone down as the angle had been made tougher by the challenge

All credit to him as he took quite a knock to be fair but if he goes down and makes it 2-0 is a different ball game

I wasnt disputing the fact it was a pen but just suggesting what I believe is his nind set in such circumstances