Ezz wrote:-
Michigan Blue wrote:If not for Walker, Abramovich, and Mansour, the breakdown of Premier League titles would be as follows:
Rags - 16
Arsenal - 4
Everyone else - 0
What an exciting league that would be.
They have very cleverly built their cartel and consolidated power in such a way that the only way to really challenge it is to do what we've done. But it isn't the means that offends them, it's the ends. If we were "ruining football" for every other club in the country en route to distant 2nd place finishes every season, they wouldn't care a jot about the money except as something else to ridicule us about.
The moral outrage comes from the fact that we are threatening their hegemony and winning trophies that, in their arrogance, they believe they are entitled to.
It's a bit like an entrenched Mafia kingpin crying out against "dirty tricks" when someone else comes along who is even more clever, resourceful, and cutthroat.
IanWright wrote:I hate to piss on this particular parade, but we've only won 3 titles, not 4, since "football" began :(
Michigan Blue wrote:IanWright wrote:I hate to piss on this particular parade, but we've only won 3 titles, not 4, since "football" began :(
I am talking about a hypothetical league without the investment at Blackburn, Chelsea, and City. You would benefit from another title under this assumption (2004-05 when you finished 2nd to Chelsea). Surprise surprise, the Rags would hoover up all the rest of the titles up for grabs.
IanWright wrote:Michigan Blue wrote:IanWright wrote:I hate to piss on this particular parade, but we've only won 3 titles, not 4, since "football" began :(
I am talking about a hypothetical league without the investment at Blackburn, Chelsea, and City. You would benefit from another title under this assumption (2004-05 when you finished 2nd to Chelsea). Surprise surprise, the Rags would hoover up all the rest of the titles up for grabs.
Egg..on..face.
john68 wrote:IanWright wrote:Michigan Blue wrote:IanWright wrote:I hate to piss on this particular parade, but we've only won 3 titles, not 4, since "football" began :(
I am talking about a hypothetical league without the investment at Blackburn, Chelsea, and City. You would benefit from another title under this assumption (2004-05 when you finished 2nd to Chelsea). Surprise surprise, the Rags would hoover up all the rest of the titles up for grabs.
Egg..on..face.
You also won 10 titles before the rags invented football in 1993....Though the manner in which you entered the League (way back in the day) was very dodgy and much to Spurs displeasure. Naughty naughty....:-)
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Heard the splendid argument in York mess room two days ago (not sure who the chappie supports) "FFP is right because City and Chelsea have got to be stopped"
I asked him the very simple question, "Why must we be stopped?"
Still waiting for an answer.
john@staustell wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Heard the splendid argument in York mess room two days ago (not sure who the chappie supports) "FFP is right because City and Chelsea have got to be stopped"
I asked him the very simple question, "Why must we be stopped?"
Still waiting for an answer.
The answer is "because they aren't United, Liverpool and Arsenal".
When I was a kid I'm pretty sure it was all equitable. United won the league, City won the league, Everton, Leeds, Arsenal, Liverpool, Derby, Forest and so on. The media, such as it was, treated each season as the fresh beginning it was.
Now 15 years of Liverpool domination followed by 20 years of the Evil Empire has created such an inbuilt bias in the system - hacks, media producers, football authorities and general public - that it really grates for 2 of the older clubs (I mean successful donkeys years ago) to come back into the success mix.
Beyond their comprehension I'm afraid.
You can still pump money into a club in terms of building a stadium, youth facilities, training centers etc.
You could actually build up a club in a more sustainable manner. It would take longer but it could be effective.
That is very different to what Chelsea and City did. Crucially, from the owners' points of view, that would not bid up wages and threaten the profitability of their own clubs.
pears12 wrote:This best one about financial fair play I have seen from ragcafe
They must of missed the upgrades to the training facilities when our owners first came in.
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