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Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:42 pm
by bluechester
simple question, but would he have made us into a better team, can he win us games. is it time to play him, reckon he could of made the difference today? i know i may get slated for this but think his direct style could of helped us today

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:46 pm
by Chopper
no

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:49 pm
by Sister of fu
Don't no if he is the answer but we defo need to be able to have the abality to start throwing the kitchen sink at teams. I haven't seen that from us yet and IMO that's a huge worry. How many late stuffy winners do we get?? I hate saying it but them twunts are the masters of this.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:50 pm
by bluechester
Chopper wrote:no


serious 1 0 down who do you throw on him or dzeko?

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:04 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
One of the best players in the world. Don't care about what he's done, winning the league comes first.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:05 pm
by Craig B
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:One of the best players in the world. Don't care about what he's done, winning the league comes first.


Agree completely.. however I fear it may now be too late

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:08 pm
by PeterParker
Just considering him as an option is a pure example of how poor we've been lately.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:32 pm
by brite blu sky
If the Op is asking as a reaction to today's dire performance then No. in reality Tevez wouldn't make any difference and would struggle to actually get into the game, unfit and mentally off the pace. Even if he was fit and had played lots of football (somewhere) he would still take time to get up to speed with these players.. meanwhile he would be trying too hard to do it all on his own and cock the balance up. Lastly, if we go off the last few seasons Tevez takes a good 4 or 5 games to get his act together at both the start of the season each year or after a lay off/injury.

It is always greener grass on the other side of the fence. <so while we are at it there should be no panicking or clutching of straws, no firesales, speedy loan deals or anything else. A longer than usual look in the mirror for the players from the last two games and a glance at the table should be enough to get some fire going.

Imo sitting at the top for a long time for this team with the experience as a team that they have, was not good. There is now a carrot to chase and while that may not be good for the nerves of fans, I suspect it will do this team the world of good. The pressure is now transferred to the rags, there are lots of games still to go and personally I believe they needed this wake up blow... even Mancini. Once again it is time to up it.

keep the faith and no chasing shadows of Tevez.. that's all he is right now a shadow.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:40 pm
by bluechester
brite blu sky wrote:If the Op is asking as a reaction to today's dire performance then No. in reality Tevez wouldn't make any difference and would struggle to actually get into the game, unfit and mentally off the pace. Even if he was fit and had played lots of football (somewhere) he would still take time to get up to speed with these players.. meanwhile he would be trying too hard to do it all on his own and cock the balance up. Lastly, if we go off the last few seasons Tevez takes a good 4 or 5 games to get his act together at both the start of the season each year or after a lay off/injury.

It is always greener grass on the other side of the fence. <so while we are at it there should be no panicking or clutching of straws, no firesales, speedy loan deals or anything else. A longer than usual look in the mirror for the players from the last two games and a glance at the table should be enough to get some fire going.

Imo sitting at the top for a long time for this team with the experience as a team that they have, was not good. There is now a carrot to chase and while that may not be good for the nerves of fans, I suspect it will do this team the world of good. The pressure is now transferred to the rags, there are lots of games still to go and personally I believe they needed this wake up blow... even Mancini. Once again it is time to up it

keep the faith and no chasing shadows of Tevez.. that's all he is right now a shadow.



what i am saying is, away from home test the water, i am sure we would of got more from him say dezeko with ten mis to go, FUCK me we are chasing a league title, i actually think a player of his quality may been of some use today,

like i said away from home, because at home i am sure hw will be booed thus this may not be productive to our performance so if we can pick & choose his games to play, maybe this would of been one of them

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:52 pm
by Original Dub
PeterParker wrote:Just considering him as an option is a pure example of how poor we've been lately.


Is it fuck mate!!

Having him as an option from the bench for the rags run in was a huge reason they won the title.

He is the absolute ideal player to bring on against a tiring stubborn defence because he actually runs AT them causing havoc and space for others to exploit.

As well as being one of the best finishers in world football over the last two years.

He is a cunt but a cunt I wish we had the option of a few times this season.

The sooner he is match fit the better. How much better? Maybe we'll find out, but he will not make us worse in a game where we already don't look like scoring.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:04 pm
by brite blu sky
bluechester wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:If the Op is asking as a reaction to today's dire performance then No. in reality Tevez wouldn't make any difference and would struggle to actually get into the game, unfit and mentally off the pace. Even if he was fit and had played lots of football (somewhere) he would still take time to get up to speed with these players.. meanwhile he would be trying too hard to do it all on his own and cock the balance up. Lastly, if we go off the last few seasons Tevez takes a good 4 or 5 games to get his act together at both the start of the season each year or after a lay off/injury.

It is always greener grass on the other side of the fence. <so while we are at it there should be no panicking or clutching of straws, no firesales, speedy loan deals or anything else. A longer than usual look in the mirror for the players from the last two games and a glance at the table should be enough to get some fire going.

Imo sitting at the top for a long time for this team with the experience as a team that they have, was not good. There is now a carrot to chase and while that may not be good for the nerves of fans, I suspect it will do this team the world of good. The pressure is now transferred to the rags, there are lots of games still to go and personally I believe they needed this wake up blow... even Mancini. Once again it is time to up it

keep the faith and no chasing shadows of Tevez.. that's all he is right now a shadow.



what i am saying is, away from home test the water, i am sure we would of got more from him say dezeko with ten mis to go, FUCK me we are chasing a league title, i actually think a player of his quality may been of some use today,

like i said away from home, because at home i am sure hw will be booed thus this may not be productive to our performance so if we can pick & choose his games to play, maybe this would of been one of them


You are assuming that Tevez would play like he does at his best or norm, what I am pointing out is that just wouldn't be the case he would be off the pace losing the ball and generally worse than Dzeko. In our mind's eye we see the Tevez the dynamo running at defences etc etc.. the evidence points the complete other way, he is generally shite after coming back/start of the season and cant score to save his life. If you dont believe me or have forgotten go and look at when he got his first goals in the last two seasons. About 7 or 8 games in you will find.

It sounds good and you're right to ask the question, the reality would be very disappointing.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:05 pm
by PeterParker
Original Dub wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Just considering him as an option is a pure example of how poor we've been lately.


Is it fuck mate!!

Having him as an option from the bench for the rags run in was a huge reason they won the title.

He is the absolute ideal player to bring on against a tiring stubborn defence because he actually runs AT them causing havoc and space for others to exploit.

As well as being one of the best finishers in world football over the last two years.

He is a cunt but a cunt I wish we had the option of a few times this season.

The sooner he is match fit the better. How much better? Maybe we'll find out, but he will not make us worse in a game where we already don't look like scoring.


That's the problem. If he wasen't a dickhead, he could had brought us the title, because like you, i consider him to be one level above Dzeko or Balotelli.
Who in his right state of mind would refuse a player like him, but can we put it all behind? Maybe i can forget about his riot with Bob, his homesickness and association with that cunt Kia, but i can't forget he let us down when we needed him the most, he took a piss on us in that video a couple of months ago and he threw away that city vintage scarf that the fan gave him, in the FA final, like it was a piece of crap.

So no, i don't want to give him a second chance, when i know he wants to play just to leave in the summer, doesn't care if we win the title or not, and because he is scared at this moment no one will pay for him, because he didn't play for almost 6 months.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:15 pm
by bluechester
brite blu sky wrote:
bluechester wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:If the Op is asking as a reaction to today's dire performance then No. in reality Tevez wouldn't make any difference and would struggle to actually get into the game, unfit and mentally off the pace. Even if he was fit and had played lots of football (somewhere) he would still take time to get up to speed with these players.. meanwhile he would be trying too hard to do it all on his own and cock the balance up. Lastly, if we go off the last few seasons Tevez takes a good 4 or 5 games to get his act together at both the start of the season each year or after a lay off/injury.

It is always greener grass on the other side of the fence. <so while we are at it there should be no panicking or clutching of straws, no firesales, speedy loan deals or anything else. A longer than usual look in the mirror for the players from the last two games and a glance at the table should be enough to get some fire going.

Imo sitting at the top for a long time for this team with the experience as a team that they have, was not good. There is now a carrot to chase and while that may not be good for the nerves of fans, I suspect it will do this team the world of good. The pressure is now transferred to the rags, there are lots of games still to go and personally I believe they needed this wake up blow... even Mancini. Once again it is time to up it

that is the same dzeko who played on thursday or who came on today, well i would take the gamble

that would be the same dzeko who played on thursday or who came on as a sub, fooking hell i think i would take the gamble then

keep the faith and no chasing shadows of Tevez.. that's all he is right now a shadow.



what i am saying is, away from home test the water, i am sure we would of got more from him say dezeko with ten mis to go, FUCK me we are chasing a league title, i actually think a player of his quality may been of some use today,

like i said away from home, because at home i am sure hw will be booed thus this may not be productive to our performance so if we can pick & choose his games to play, maybe this would of been one of them


You are assuming that Tevez would play like he does at his best or norm, what I am pointing out is that just wouldn't be the case he would be off the pace losing the ball and generally worse than Dzeko. In our mind's eye we see the Tevez the dynamo running at defences etc etc.. the evidence points the complete other way, he is generally shite after coming back/start of the season and cant score to save his life. If you dont believe me or have forgotten go and look at when he got his first goals in the last two seasons. About 7 or 8 games in you will find.

It sounds good and you're right to ask the question, the reality would be very disappointing.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:18 pm
by bluechester
that the same dzeko who played on thursday or who came on today think i would take the gamble

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:24 pm
by Superbia
I have a funny feeling this is destiny hes going to play a big part in us winning the league from hero to villain to hero again

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:25 am
by Grob
Yes

Top class player with a point to prove and a future to play for.

By any means nescessary

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:14 am
by john68
Grob wrote:Yes

Top class player with a point to prove and a future to play for.

By any means nescessary


Correct.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:26 am
by Tokyo Blue
john68 wrote:
Grob wrote:Yes

Top class player with a point to prove and a future to play for.

By any means nescessary


Correct.

I am starting to edge very slightly towards this way of thinking.

But my answer is still, nah, not really.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:32 am
by john68
Tokyo Blue wrote:
john68 wrote:
Grob wrote:Yes

Top class player with a point to prove and a future to play for.

By any means nescessary


Correct.

I am starting to edge very slightly towards this way of thinking.

But my answer is still, nah, not really.


I don't know what Tevez's current fitness levels are like but that would be my only worry about him. I certainly think that Aguero looks like he needs a break.
I don't care what sort of cunt Tevez is, My only interest in him is can he play. City are paying him a fortune and some are happy for him to sit on his arse...Let him earn it.

Re: Is it time for Tevez

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:12 am
by Tokyo Blue
john68 wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
john68 wrote:
Grob wrote:Yes

Top class player with a point to prove and a future to play for.

By any means nescessary


Correct.

I am starting to edge very slightly towards this way of thinking.

But my answer is still, nah, not really.


I don't know what Tevez's current fitness levels are like but that would be my only worry about him. I certainly think that Aguero looks like he needs a break.
I don't care what sort of cunt Tevez is, My only interest in him is can he play. City are paying him a fortune and some are happy for him to sit on his arse...Let him earn it.

I am not sure he can. It has taken him up to October from pre-season to hit form in the past. Time is something we have not really got that much of.

Both sides of the argument have got merit. Principles v practicalities. I trust Roberto to get it right.