gillie wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
He is not good enough mate.
Not good enough at all...I forget the play, but he half assed some pass that got picked off and it wasnt even close...thats not experience, thats sh*t skill.
gillie wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
He is not good enough mate.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
Bottom line of this topic was and is that he lacks skill to ever make anything like Premier league defender of himself. I never crucify players because of some individual mistake. Shit happens. This isn't about his poorly placed pass.
Like Ted said above, he lacks everything you expect from a talent. You need something to work with, pace, skill on the ball, good understanding of game and positioning..... something. He has none of those qualities. This guy is a lost cause and sooner we just admit we made mistake and move on the better.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Everybody's favourite scapegoat. Far superior to Boyata yet he was afforded more tolerance. The real fault at Swansea lay with others well before Savic. And it was mainly the forward players who were rank rotten.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Everybody's favourite scapegoat. Far superior to Boyata yet he was afforded more tolerance. The real fault at Swansea lay with others well before Savic. And it was mainly the forward players who were rank rotten.
Ted Hughes wrote:SirSavic wrote:We need to get behind Savic. He just needs a run of games and he will be better than Richard Dunne!
Every fucker gets behind Savic, even Andy Carroll.
spiny wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
Bottom line of this topic was and is that he lacks skill to ever make anything like Premier league defender of himself. I never crucify players because of some individual mistake. Shit happens. This isn't about his poorly placed pass.
Like Ted said above, he lacks everything you expect from a talent. You need something to work with, pace, skill on the ball, good understanding of game and positioning..... something. He has none of those qualities. This guy is a lost cause and sooner we just admit we made mistake and move on the better.
We agree to disagree.
The same was levelled at Boetang who was crap for us but is doing ok with Bayern Munich.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Everybody's favourite scapegoat. Far superior to Boyata yet he was afforded more tolerance. The real fault at Swansea lay with others well before Savic. And it was mainly the forward players who were rank rotten.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Everybody's favourite scapegoat. Far superior to Boyata yet he was afforded more tolerance. The real fault at Swansea lay with others well before Savic. And it was mainly the forward players who were rank rotten.
Lulzy daizy.
No.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
Bottom line of this topic was and is that he lacks skill to ever make anything like Premier league defender of himself. I never crucify players because of some individual mistake. Shit happens. This isn't about his poorly placed pass.
Like Ted said above, he lacks everything you expect from a talent. You need something to work with, pace, skill on the ball, good understanding of game and positioning..... something. He has none of those qualities. This guy is a lost cause and sooner we just admit we made mistake and move on the better.
We agree to disagree.
The same was levelled at Boetang who was crap for us but is doing ok with Bayern Munich.
Boateng looked like he couldn't be arsed to adjust his game to Premier league pace. I didn't really like him but he was ten million times the player Savic is. Two wrongs don't make a right though.
But yeah, agree to disagree.
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:spiny wrote:Savic lacks experience not skill.
Bottom line of this topic was and is that he lacks skill to ever make anything like Premier league defender of himself. I never crucify players because of some individual mistake. Shit happens. This isn't about his poorly placed pass.
Like Ted said above, he lacks everything you expect from a talent. You need something to work with, pace, skill on the ball, good understanding of game and positioning..... something. He has none of those qualities. This guy is a lost cause and sooner we just admit we made mistake and move on the better.
We agree to disagree.
The same was levelled at Boetang who was crap for us but is doing ok with Bayern Munich.
Boateng looked like he couldn't be arsed to adjust his game to Premier league pace. I didn't really like him but he was ten million times the player Savic is. Two wrongs don't make a right though.
But yeah, agree to disagree.
Boateng is still shit & a great big fucking fairy who would still get arse raped in the Prem, but he's miles better than Savic who, tbf, is not a fairy but just shitter than Boateng. Boyata is stronger faster & better in the air than Savic but has been a disaster whenever I've seen him play for Bolton.
If Savic was 18, I'd have hopes that he has some hidden talent we haven't seen but he's 21.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
That's the point I was making. In fact point of this topic. I've followed Boyata closely as I quite like him as talent. He has lot of things you look for in centerback. He has been quite poor in Bolton (couple of injuries hasn't really helped, mind) and obviously it has been step backwards. At 21 I can understand if we sell him in the end of the season. I believe that with more experience and confidence he will become, if not great, then at least pretty good league defender.
Savic on the other hand, I see none of those qualities in him. None.
Now nothing would make me happier than if Savic proved me wrong. We've spent lot of money for him. But I'm pretty sure that will never happen. I'm also sure that someone will dig this up when he is best defender in German second division in seven years claiming we should've kept him. All that after few league titles and probably Champions League win for us.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
That's the point I was making. In fact point of this topic. I've followed Boyata closely as I quite like him as talent. He has lot of things you look for in centerback. He has been quite poor in Bolton (couple of injuries hasn't really helped, mind) and obviously it has been step backwards. At 21 I can understand if we sell him in the end of the season. I believe that with more experience and confidence he will become, if not great, then at least pretty good league defender.
Savic on the other hand, I see none of those qualities in him. None.
Now nothing would make me happier than if Savic proved me wrong. We've spent lot of money for him. But I'm pretty sure that will never happen. I'm also sure that someone will dig this up when he is best defender in German second division in seven years claiming we should've kept him. All that after few league titles and probably Champions League win for us.
Nail and head. Piccs is normally sound, but he's had a petrov moment claiming any saving grace for Savic.
Also Boateng was definitely a massive cunt, but he, like every single person I've seen play cb for us were better than Savic has been. Have we ever kept a clean sheet with him playing?
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Yes we have.
And to be fair to Boyata we did play him out of position at full back a couple of times.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Yes we have.
And to be fair to Boyata we did play him out of position at full back a couple of times.
I've tried to like Savic mate but he fucks something up everytime he plays.
I don't think Boyata was a world beater, but he at least had a couple of games where we all saw something in him. Savic has never had one of those games.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Ha ha I see something in him.
I already feel happier with him there than Kolo who frightens the shit out of me.
There is a danger he will become like Edghill who was a decent player who got his confidence taken apart by supporters blaming him for everything.
Savic wasn't the villain on Sunday, yet he was blamed for that defeat. But in truth the attacking part of our game was what was wrong, even the golden boys Aguero and Silva put in a worse performance than Richard Ashcroft.
Im_Spartacus wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Ha ha I see something in him.
I already feel happier with him there than Kolo who frightens the shit out of me.
There is a danger he will become like Edghill who was a decent player who got his confidence taken apart by supporters blaming him for everything.
Savic wasn't the villain on Sunday, yet he was blamed for that defeat. But in truth the attacking part of our game was what was wrong, even the golden boys Aguero and Silva put in a worse performance than Richard Ashcroft.
Edgehill had a long spell where he was to blame for everything, which is why he was blamed -not for everything - but for his stupid, idiotic fuck ups which had no place on a professional football pitch.
Remind us of his career trajectory after he left city? Perhaps its city fans fault he never ever regained his confidence, or perhaps the reality is that he simply did not have what it takes when he hit a rough patch. At least though edgehill was good at one point, with savic its the opposite, he is poor at the outset, he has to battle through the criticism and have broad shoulders, because the criticism of his performances are justified, and im sure he will be the first to admit it
Aguero and Silva have been called out for their performance, but the difference is that we know they can do it so trust them to come gpod. We have no evidence at all that Savic can come good because he has never had a decent game for us.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Ha ha I see something in him.
I already feel happier with him there than Kolo who frightens the shit out of me.
There is a danger he will become like Edghill who was a decent player who got his confidence taken apart by supporters blaming him for everything.
Savic wasn't the villain on Sunday, yet he was blamed for that defeat. But in truth the attacking part of our game was what was wrong, even the golden boys Aguero and Silva put in a worse performance than Richard Ashcroft.
Edgehill had a long spell where he was to blame for everything, which is why he was blamed -not for everything - but for his stupid, idiotic fuck ups which had no place on a professional football pitch.
Remind us of his career trajectory after he left city? Perhaps its city fans fault he never ever regained his confidence, or perhaps the reality is that he simply did not have what it takes when he hit a rough patch. At least though edgehill was good at one point, with savic its the opposite, he is poor at the outset, he has to battle through the criticism and have broad shoulders, because the criticism of his performances are justified, and im sure he will be the first to admit it
Aguero and Silva have been called out for their performance, but the difference is that we know they can do it so trust them to come gpod. We have no evidence at all that Savic can come good because he has never had a decent game for us.
Edghill was a decent pro who was destined for good things. City fans systematically dismantled his confidence. He was 'one of us' too. It was painful to watch his sapping belief in himself and City fans should hang their heads for the shameful hatchet job they did on him.
The only players I can recall coming through such treatment are Goater and Big Joe. It doesn't help.
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