Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Always good to vent the old spleen after a poor performance and a defeat. No Lescott ,Dzeko or Kolarov so little doubt where the hammer would fall. Of course his sloppy pass gave the ball away but that's not the only thing that gave the goal away.
It didn't help that everything we tried to do had to go through Yaya and all Savic was trying to do was give the ball to Yaya who for some reason chose to move away at the exact moment he passed it.I didn't think Savic was good and I don't think he is quite ready yet but he does not deserve the venom going his way.
Why did we lose today? A complete lack of energy and ideas might be the main reason. Is that the manager or the players.Probably both but our away record is seriously rubbish since the swamp result.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Always good to vent the old spleen after a poor performance and a defeat. No Lescott ,Dzeko or Kolarov so little doubt where the hammer would fall. Of course his sloppy pass gave the ball away but that's not the only thing that gave the goal away.
It didn't help that everything we tried to do had to go through Yaya and all Savic was trying to do was give the ball to Yaya who for some reason chose to move away at the exact moment he passed it.I didn't think Savic was good and I don't think he is quite ready yet but he does not deserve the venom going his way.
Why did we lose today? A complete lack of energy and ideas might be the main reason. Is that the manager or the players.Probably both but our away record is seriously rubbish since the swamp result.
Oh the irony, feller who doesn't miss a chance to moan about Mancini talking about knee jerk reactions. How is the world up there?
DoomMerchant wrote:lets all have a disco wrote:At the moment Savic is a sack of crap i dont know if he will improve i do know hes not good enough at the moment plus he looks ill.
he does...he looks like he caught the bird flu from somewhere. Get him some milk, a loaf of warm crusty bread and a shot of penicillin. A couple doses of tamiflu. Cold compresses for his head. A week in bed. Something....
i caught a fever watching the gaunt fucler play today. Not because he was on fire.
getdressedmctavish wrote:Its down to management. Yes Savic is shite. But if you are gonna play him, you have to spend time with him, talk to him, put an arm round him, tell him you believe in him. Dont just stick him in when any coont can see he is white with feckin fear.Look at Ferguson with that coont de Gea. If that was Mancini's player who he'd paid 17 mill for, the coont would be a gibberin wreck.You have to manage players. Make them believe. You cant do it with a flick of your fuckin hair, and your eyes constantly goin skywards. There'smore to managing a team than them knowing where they should stand on the fuckin pitch. We keep getting out played by feckin journeymen who give more effort than we do and know the goal is forewards, not somewhere twenty yards short of the halfway line.Mancini needs to start addressing his problems because its a recurring problem and it wont feckin do.Joe, have a couple of days on the beer. The rest of you, in Monday 9 am sharp. And Nasri, Silva and Ya Ya, make that 8 am you fuckin idle coonts.
ant london wrote:didn't do much for Jo and Robinho ;-)
paulmclaren wrote:He was our best defender b4 that stupid pass, which yaya should of done better with btw, bit harsh i think as he played well.
Rag_hater wrote:paulmclaren wrote:He was our best defender b4 that stupid pass, which yaya should of done better with btw, bit harsh i think as he played well.
I'm a big fan of Yaya but think you are right there
lets all have a disco wrote:ant london wrote:didn't do much for Jo and Robinho ;-)
Ted Hughes wrote:I've asked this question before & it usually leads to a blanik response:
What is it in Savic's play that any of you see which suggests he will ever be good enough to play CB for Manchester City ?.
Please list the particular qualities which we can work on.
While your at it, please explain which things he does that are better than, let's say Chris Smalling for example, as they are the same age.
Ted Hughes wrote:I've asked this question before & it usually leads to a blanik response:
What is it in Savic's play that any of you see which suggests he will ever be good enough to play CB for Manchester City ?.
Please list the particular qualities which we can work on.
While your at it, please explain which things he does that are better than, let's say Chris Smalling for example, as they are the same age.
Ted Hughes wrote:
While your at it, please explain which things he does that are better than, let's say Chris Smalling for example, as they are the same age.
Blueonblue wrote:So the kid made a bo bo, he was hardly on his own as the whole team were misfiring nor did his mistake cost us the goal, that one goes down to NDJ who decided to jog back and not bother picking up "His" man ( And he has been poor since returning from the injury, or maybe the rumours of him going in the summer are getting to him ).
As for the options we had, Kolo paired with Lescott was a none starter because of the speed and pace of Swansea in attack, moving Micha inside would have lost the overlap that is such a big part of our attacking game, so Savic was the best option left, he aint bad on the deck and quicker than both Kolo and Lescott, no player goes through a game without making a mistake but his seem to get highlighted every time, and if Roberto see`s some thing in the kid then I for one will back him.
We are not the finished artical yet, we are still building the squad so there will be times we come unstuck, thats no reason to suddenly start doubting the managers judgment because he has thrown a young player in thats maybe not quite ready, an getting on his back wont help either, just accept it was a poor show from the whole team rather than picking out one player to bitch at.
Ted Hughes wrote:Blueonblue wrote:So the kid made a bo bo, he was hardly on his own as the whole team were misfiring nor did his mistake cost us the goal, that one goes down to NDJ who decided to jog back and not bother picking up "His" man ( And he has been poor since returning from the injury, or maybe the rumours of him going in the summer are getting to him ).
As for the options we had, Kolo paired with Lescott was a none starter because of the speed and pace of Swansea in attack, moving Micha inside would have lost the overlap that is such a big part of our attacking game, so Savic was the best option left, he aint bad on the deck and quicker than both Kolo and Lescott, no player goes through a game without making a mistake but his seem to get highlighted every time, and if Roberto see`s some thing in the kid then I for one will back him.
We are not the finished artical yet, we are still building the squad so there will be times we come unstuck, thats no reason to suddenly start doubting the managers judgment because he has thrown a young player in thats maybe not quite ready, an getting on his back wont help either, just accept it was a poor show from the whole team rather than picking out one player to bitch at.
Is he fucking hell quicker than Kolo and Lescott. Lescott is about the same pace but ten times stronger at holding off an opponent & Kolo would fucking lap him in a 100 yard sprint.
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