Original Dub wrote:See, this is where I disagree....
Those two seasons at Liverpool were the exception, rather than the rue.
As far as I know, he was a one in three striker before that. I think he was a one in three striker for Spain also. And he's probably a one in four striker now.
He was never one of the world's best.
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Original Dub wrote:See, this is where I disagree....
Those two seasons at Liverpool were the exception, rather than the rue.
As far as I know, he was a one in three striker before that. I think he was a one in three striker for Spain also. And he's probably a one in four striker now.
He was never one of the world's best.
In La liga, Torres scored 75 goals in 174 games. Aguero scored 74 in 175.
In his first 3 seasons in the PL, Torres scored 56 in 79. In Aguero's first 3 seasons, he's scored 52 in 87.
I'm absolutely sure you'd say Aguero has been one of the best in the world for that period and he has, yet when Torres has an almost identical record if not slightly better, he wasn't?
Yes he's been dog shite at Chelsea but he was class for both Liverpool and Atletico, Sure he has two/three exceptional years but he was pretty damn good in the others.
Original Dub wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Original Dub wrote:See, this is where I disagree....
Those two seasons at Liverpool were the exception, rather than the rue.
As far as I know, he was a one in three striker before that. I think he was a one in three striker for Spain also. And he's probably a one in four striker now.
He was never one of the world's best.
In La liga, Torres scored 75 goals in 174 games. Aguero scored 74 in 175.
In his first 3 seasons in the PL, Torres scored 56 in 79. In Aguero's first 3 seasons, he's scored 52 in 87.
I'm absolutely sure you'd say Aguero has been one of the best in the world for that period and he has, yet when Torres has an almost identical record if not slightly better, he wasn't?
Yes he's been dog shite at Chelsea but he was class for both Liverpool and Atletico, Sure he has two/three exceptional years but he was pretty damn good in the others.
At athletico, his record was 82 goals in 216 appearances. For Spain it was something like 38 in 102. For chelsea it is 20 in 110.
Only at Liverpool for two seasons was he at the top level.
I would say aguero is a better player, yes.
He has the greatest goals to minutes ratio the premier league has ever seen.
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Strange.
I thought the debate was whether, or not, Torres would ever regain his form (as per the thread title), not if he was world class before he went to Chelsea.
I must have got confused somewhere along the line.
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Strange.
I thought the debate was whether, or not, Torres would ever regain his form (as per the thread title), not if he was world class before he went to Chelsea.
I must have got confused somewhere along the line.
Are you serious?
The original thread was started over two and a half years ago. Since then it has been answered as he hasn't regained form.
SInce the original question had clearly been answered OD took it on a bit of a tangent and challenged whether Torres ever was really world class (before he went to Chelsea) so that was the point being debated.
Not rocket science is it?
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