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BadKompany wrote:

sandman wrote:A lot slated Zabba while he was becoming accustomed to this league, it took him a long long time and now he is one of our most consistant players.

I am not even close to being covinced by Boateng or Kolorov, but I am sure that i've not seen the best of either of them, in time I imagine one or both will be a fans favourite at some point.

And Zaba is still only good enough as a second choice right back.However,at present,need dictates - he should to be our first choice left....

I personally would put Zabba as first choice on either side, of Micah, Boateng, Kolorov and himself he is the only one I really have confidence in. Plus he's played 19 games this season so he's not exactly a bench warmer, Bobby Manc seems to think he's pretty good too.

sandman wrote:

BadKompany wrote:

sandman wrote:A lot slated Zabba while he was becoming accustomed to this league, it took him a long long time and now he is one of our most consistant players.

I am not even close to being covinced by Boateng or Kolorov, but I am sure that i've not seen the best of either of them, in time I imagine one or both will be a fans favourite at some point.

And Zaba is still only good enough as a second choice right back.However,at present,need dictates - he should to be our first choice left....

I personally would put Zabba as first choice on either side, of Micah, Boateng, Kolorov and himself he is the only one I really have confidence in. Plus he's played 19 games this season so he's not exactly a bench warmer, Bobby Manc seems to think he's pretty good too.

Micah has found excellent form and has the one attribute that gives him the edge - pace.Zaba simply cannot handle wingers who possess speed and trickery,he wiil inevitably receive a yellow and that makes him a liability.

BadKompany wrote:

sandman wrote:

BadKompany wrote:

sandman wrote:A lot slated Zabba while he was becoming accustomed to this league, it took him a long long time and now he is one of our most consistant players.

I am not even close to being covinced by Boateng or Kolorov, but I am sure that i've not seen the best of either of them, in time I imagine one or both will be a fans favourite at some point.

And Zaba is still only good enough as a second choice right back.However,at present,need dictates - he should to be our first choice left....

I personally would put Zabba as first choice on either side, of Micah, Boateng, Kolorov and himself he is the only one I really have confidence in. Plus he's played 19 games this season so he's not exactly a bench warmer, Bobby Manc seems to think he's pretty good too.

Micah has found excellent form and has the one attribute that gives him the edge - pace.Zaba simply cannot handle wingers who possess speed and trickery,he wiil inevitably receive a yellow and that makes him a liability.

I disagree, I am not fooled by a few fantastic forward runs that often result in losing possesion.

Micah neglects his defensive responsibilities far too often at the expense of pushing forward, this wouldnt be a problem if he tracked back straight away, but he doesnt, he's often caught wandering upfront/midfield while opposition breaks leaving 3 at the back, plus his positional awareness is not what Zabba's is. How many times is he caught inside allowing players into the corner to lob on into the box? Far too often for my liking.

Micah is a good player, but I fear he is somewhat overated. Zabba isnt all flair and show off, he is just a good strong reliable no nonesense defender.

Boateng may need time to settle and find his feet, but do we have to keep playing him at RB while he does?

Micah has been a revalation of late and Zabba has been fab all year, If Jerome is one for the future then cut his playing time down. If he arks up about it, show him some bloody videos of how he's been playing.

The CB thing worries me also. He looks better there, but nowhere near Komps, Kolo or Lescot for me. Did we really pay a big fee for another future maybe?

Give him a chance eh?

Micah is 22 and has played a damn sight more games in this league and only now is showing what he can do.

Was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, being a German national, but would gladly switch him for his half brother
at this point. He seems to have problem adapting his game to the PL, loses a lot of one on one battles and his first touch is terrible.
Maybe he will adapt eventually, but Mancini has hardly said a thing about his regression (which can't be good.)

I think he's been bloody terrible. I could forgive him looking like a centre back playing out of position, but I find it extremely difficult to forgive him for playing like a not-arsed, non-footballer.

He wets out of challenges, doesn't mark properly (and this includes at set pieces, where the 'mummy mummy -I'm not a left-back' excuse doesn't wash), and abmles along with no sense of purpose or urgency when the opportunity is ripe to overlap and support the attack.

Don't get me wrong I WANT him to improve and become the player most of us thought we'd signed. He has a hell of a lot of improving and convincing to do.

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:For stating this 6 months ago I got called to shit for it:

http://mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic ... it=germany

Of course that was mainly by an aggitated lunatic, but my point still stands.

Right there with you, when we signed him during last season I questioned why City wanted him when he was utter wank for Hamburg.

Slim wrote:

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:For stating this 6 months ago I got called to shit for it:

http://mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic ... it=germany

Of course that was mainly by an aggitated lunatic, but my point still stands.

Right there with you, when we signed him during last season I questioned why City wanted him when he was utter wank for Hamburg.

*high five*

Sadly I would rather you and I were getting shit now for being completely wrong about him.

I dont think he's not very good. I do think he's a centre half and not a right back, and hence thats where he will have his better games for us in the future.

Goaters 103 wrote:I dont think he's not very good. I do think he's a centre half and not a right back, and hence thats where he will have his better games for us in the future.

I refer you to my previous post. Have you seriously been watching the lad?

Slim wrote:

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:For stating this 6 months ago I got called to shit for it:

http://mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic ... it=germany

Of course that was mainly by an aggitated lunatic, but my point still stands.

Right there with you, when we signed him during last season I questioned why City wanted him when he was utter wank for Hamburg.

I can't say I'd heard of him before the world cup where he played pretty well at left back, imo. Generally, I don't feel confidence when he plays and right now I'd rather Micah was playing.

Saying that, I don't think there has been a truly world class right back since Gary Neville went into decline.

uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:I dont think he's not very good. I do think he's a centre half and not a right back, and hence thats where he will have his better games for us in the future.

I refer you to my previous post. Have you seriously been watching the lad?

Yes, have you? He's looked better at centre half than fullback. Let's let the guy have a chance before we crucify him after 20 games as he appears to be the current scapegoat. He hasn't set the world on fire, but then again neither has Kolarov either.

Time. Practice. Hard work. Patience.

During the world cup he looked like the weak link in their defence. He was injured at the start of the season. He's new to the prem and is the same age as Micah. Judge him next season.

Having written that if a club came in with an 8 mill bid, I'd snap their hands off.

Goaters 103 wrote:

uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:I dont think he's not very good. I do think he's a centre half and not a right back, and hence thats where he will have his better games for us in the future.

I refer you to my previous post. Have you seriously been watching the lad?

Yes, have you? He's looked better at centre half than fullback. Let's let the guy have a chance before we crucify him after 20 games as he appears to be the current scapegoat. He hasn't set the world on fire, but then again neither has Kolarov either.

Yes. Yes, I have. And I know he looks better at centre half. How could he possibly look any worse? A full frontal lobotomy?

Watching him plod about the pitch, is how I managed to notice that he's doing things wrong as a footballer, never mind what position he's played at. And I don't necessarily agree that someone is being used a scapegoat, when they've been massively turd in numerous games. He deserves everything he gets apart from most of his wage. He doesn't even pretend to be arsed, and 'defends' at times, like a coward. If he was in my team I'd have given him numerous public bollockings. In fact I did on Sunday, I just don't think he could hear me.

He'll get more time so he'd better improve, but I've seen god knows how many so called 'quality players' come to City and turn out to be utter gash. Just hope he doesn't need more time than we can afford to give him; we're getting near the pointy end now and it really is playin hell wid me noives.

uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:

uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:I dont think he's not very good. I do think he's a centre half and not a right back, and hence thats where he will have his better games for us in the future.

I refer you to my previous post. Have you seriously been watching the lad?

Yes, have you? He's looked better at centre half than fullback. Let's let the guy have a chance before we crucify him after 20 games as he appears to be the current scapegoat. He hasn't set the world on fire, but then again neither has Kolarov either.

Yes. Yes, I have. And I know he looks better at centre half. How could he possibly look any worse? A full frontal lobotomy?

Watching him plod about the pitch, is how I managed to notice that he's doing things wrong as a footballer, never mind what position he's played at. And I don't necessarily agree that someone is being used a scapegoat, when they've been massively turd in numerous games. He deserves everything he gets apart from most of his wage. He doesn't even pretend to be arsed, and 'defends' at times, like a coward. If he was in my team I'd have given him numerous public bollockings. In fact I did on Sunday, I just don't think he could hear me.

He'll get more time so he'd better improve, but I've seen god knows how many so called 'quality players' come to City and turn out to be utter gash. Just hope he doesn't need more time than we can afford to give him; we're getting near the pointy end now and it really is playin hell wid me noives.

Mancini will pay the ultimate price for stubbornly sticking by his signings when Boateng and Kolarov come up against the likes of Lennon, Anelka, Malouda - I am praying he drops them both in the very near future. There is persevering with them to gain experience, and there is managerial suicide......any longer and I think it will become the latter.

He clearly knows there is a problem, as he didnt play either against United, so lets hope he keeps that pattern up.....but I think its best we wrap them both up until next season now.

Boateng is appalling. If you can't see it, I cannot explain why not as it is so patently obvious.

If there is any shred of truth that Richards is off to Spurs, making way for this donkey, it would be a disasterous move. Micah is far and away the best option for us, at RB. Boateng is a big mistake, all managers make them, this is Mancini's biggest. Though not his only one.

s1ty m wrote:Boateng is appalling. If you can't see it, I cannot explain why not as it is so patently obvious.

If there is any shred of truth that Richards is off to Spurs, making way for this donkey, it would be a disasterous move. Micah is far and away the best option for us, at RB. Boateng is a big mistake, all managers make them, this is Mancini's biggest. Though not his only one.

Although I (hope, and) don't think Boateng has been brought in as a long term fullback, selling Micah would be a kamikaze manouvre. Especially to that disgusting crooked ballbag of a man and his annoying team.

Mad Zabs and Micah are the best fullbacks we have at the club.

remind me again why we sold him?

didn't adapt well? we barely gave him time..