Pretty Boy Lee wrote:If holding midfielders were oil, Bush would have invaded eastlands. Like playing there would be a bonus.
I'm still finding it hard to beleive we cannot make use of SWP, Ade, Shay, RSC and Bridge.
Harldy sounds like a bad bench to me.
zuricity wrote:What a mouth watering experience that will be for us Dzeko, Ballo and Teves just tucked behind them, being spoon fed by David, Yaya and Johno, with Gareth and James and Nige working the midfield line behind them and then a rock solid back four.
Who needs a goalie ?
..... Hang on, that's too many. Booby Manc sort it out please :-))
everyonehatesus wrote:Well to tell the truth, im getting fed up of all this shit. The players seem to get pissed off every time we buy someone, then play them out of position with crap defencive tactics.
So whats the answer? oh yeah go and buy even more players...
Its time to sort this out as we really are starting to look like a joke, and I can see why so many other fans are hating us.
I know that most will say "do you want to go back to fighting at the bottom season after season", and the answer is NO but I dont like how we are going about things at the moment and believe there has to be a point where the owners say enough is enough, you've had your money now manage what you have or piss off and we will get a manager that can.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
johnny crossan wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
Hart, Boateng/Richards, Kolo, Kompany, Kolarov, Milner/Barry, de Jong, Yaya, Silva/AJ, Tevez, Balotelli - If Mancini could pick this as an unchanged team (inc the 3 outfield subs) for say 6 league games, I think we would be at the top of the table in the new year.
But maybe he thinks his first choice XI won't ever be available together - hence he wants to improve his options with new signings (preferably to add pace in midfield & on the wings) - I get the distinct impression that the 6 players named in the Telegraph article would never play for him again if he did.
Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
Hart, Boateng/Richards, Kolo, Kompany, Kolarov, Milner/Barry, de Jong, Yaya, Silva/AJ, Tevez, Balotelli - If Mancini could pick this as an unchanged team (inc the 3 outfield subs) for say 6 league games, I think we would be at the top of the table in the new year.
But maybe he thinks his first choice XI won't ever be available together - hence he wants to improve his options with new signings (preferably to add pace in midfield & on the wings) - I get the distinct impression that the 6 players named in the Telegraph article would never play for him again if he did.
If they're telling the truth about 'the project' it's not just the 2nd half of this season they're building for but next season, to be in the Chump's league & attempt to win it, as well as win the Prem etc. Therefore we are certainly NOT the finished article as a squad. It doesn't matter how good his 1st 11 is, it can't play Wed Sat now (we made changes & got dicked by Poznan) & we're only after 4th place & the Euro. Imagine if we were after 1st place & winning the Chump's Lg + the FA Cup?
The more players we can sign & sell right now to give Bob the team he requires, the less 'gelling time' & excuses we have next season. We don't want to continue relying on the fitness of two fullbacks or the mentality of a 20 year old headcase if we're challenging for the double or treble.
brite blu sky wrote:Agree with what Ted says once again, however i would add a couple of points.
1. this is speculation by the media, so treat as such.
2. there are quite a few players who cannot be relied upon. In building a top squad the players who come in have to perform, if we want to make a title challenge then players like SWP have to be ready and have to do the business, if they dont or cant then unfortunately they are of little use, the competitiveness at the top requires that the whole squad can turn in a performance close to their best at every call.
Jo and RSC are completely unreliable, as it looks like Ade is also. Bridge and SWP are not much better, Lescott we know can do better.. it isn't just performances with some of those players either, Bridge, Ade, Lescott seem to get niggling injuries all the time which amounts to the same thing, not reliable.
Compare any of them with Zabba... you could almost put Zabba in any of the positions that list of players play in and he would do as good as or possibly a damn sight better and he shakes off injuries.
MANCIO4EVER wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
Hart, Boateng/Richards, Kolo, Kompany, Kolarov, Milner/Barry, de Jong, Yaya, Silva/AJ, Tevez, Balotelli - If Mancini could pick this as an unchanged team (inc the 3 outfield subs) for say 6 league games, I think we would be at the top of the table in the new year.
But maybe he thinks his first choice XI won't ever be available together - hence he wants to improve his options with new signings (preferably to add pace in midfield & on the wings) - I get the distinct impression that the 6 players named in the Telegraph article would never play for him again if he did.
If they're telling the truth about 'the project' it's not just the 2nd half of this season they're building for but next season, to be in the Chump's league & attempt to win it, as well as win the Prem etc. Therefore we are certainly NOT the finished article as a squad. It doesn't matter how good his 1st 11 is, it can't play Wed Sat now (we made changes & got dicked by Poznan) & we're only after 4th place & the Euro. Imagine if we were after 1st place & winning the Chump's Lg + the FA Cup?
The more players we can sign & sell right now to give Bob the team he requires, the less 'gelling time' & excuses we have next season. We don't want to continue relying on the fitness of two fullbacks or the mentality of a 20 year old headcase if we're challenging for the double or treble.
Which are the same points You find two box above.
Still, I can see so many differeces between You and the bitter frustrated xenophobe who wrote the post after your.
Ted Hughes wrote:MANCIO4EVER wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:We can buy all the players we want but then it's down to managing them and blending them into a winning side. In theory we have the 11 he wants when Mario is available so where exactly would new players fit in? You don't spend £40 million on a player just to be a squad player.
Hart, Boateng/Richards, Kolo, Kompany, Kolarov, Milner/Barry, de Jong, Yaya, Silva/AJ, Tevez, Balotelli - If Mancini could pick this as an unchanged team (inc the 3 outfield subs) for say 6 league games, I think we would be at the top of the table in the new year.
But maybe he thinks his first choice XI won't ever be available together - hence he wants to improve his options with new signings (preferably to add pace in midfield & on the wings) - I get the distinct impression that the 6 players named in the Telegraph article would never play for him again if he did.
If they're telling the truth about 'the project' it's not just the 2nd half of this season they're building for but next season, to be in the Chump's league & attempt to win it, as well as win the Prem etc. Therefore we are certainly NOT the finished article as a squad. It doesn't matter how good his 1st 11 is, it can't play Wed Sat now (we made changes & got dicked by Poznan) & we're only after 4th place & the Euro. Imagine if we were after 1st place & winning the Chump's Lg + the FA Cup?
The more players we can sign & sell right now to give Bob the team he requires, the less 'gelling time' & excuses we have next season. We don't want to continue relying on the fitness of two fullbacks or the mentality of a 20 year old headcase if we're challenging for the double or treble.
Which are the same points You find two box above.
Still, I can see so many differeces between You and the bitter frustrated xenophobe who wrote the post after your.
Sorry, I didn't see that post but yes it is the same point.
Ted Hughes wrote:brite blu sky wrote:Agree with what Ted says once again, however i would add a couple of points.
1. this is speculation by the media, so treat as such.
2. there are quite a few players who cannot be relied upon. In building a top squad the players who come in have to perform, if we want to make a title challenge then players like SWP have to be ready and have to do the business, if they dont or cant then unfortunately they are of little use, the competitiveness at the top requires that the whole squad can turn in a performance close to their best at every call.
Jo and RSC are completely unreliable, as it looks like Ade is also. Bridge and SWP are not much better, Lescott we know can do better.. it isn't just performances with some of those players either, Bridge, Ade, Lescott seem to get niggling injuries all the time which amounts to the same thing, not reliable.
Compare any of them with Zabba... you could almost put Zabba in any of the positions that list of players play in and he would do as good as or possibly a damn sight better and he shakes off injuries.
Ade has been unlucky this season imo. The rest, barring Lescott, have done nothing to prove they are worthy of being part of where we want to go. Ade though imo has looked really up for it, has scored goals & done as much as we could expect. He works twice as hard as for instance Balotelli but it appears that whatever he does, it may not be enough. Balotelli would have played in some of the games Ade has been omitted. If Ade goes, it's purely because Bob doesn't want him, same with Lescott, not because they're no use to us in the squad.
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