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Re: Muslim players

Postby ant london » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:57 am

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Having mentioned Yaya, I thought I'd give you some insight about his name. Yaya comes from the Arabic name Yahya which is the name of John the Baptist (a recognised Prophet in Islam) in the Quran, the Muslim holy book. That means that Yaya's English name is John. Since we've never found a nickname for Yaya, maybe we can start calling him John or Johnny !!
Kolo's full name is Habib Kolo Toure. Habib in Arabic means Loved One but I don't think there is a good English alternative for it.


the thing about Kolo's name is funny.....I was never remotely aware that Kolo wasn't his first name til I moved out here and everyone refers to him by his full name, with the Habib bit first.

Yahya.....is actually one of my favourite Arabic names, it's pronounced.....Yea-hi-Yeah....great name!
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Re: Muslim players

Postby ruralblue » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:14 pm

Friday is the main day for Muslims, it's our Sunday, the day of call to prayer. Though I have never heard of any such ruling regarding fasting at any other time except Ramadam.

Anelka converted to Muslim, think that was after he was with us though.
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Re: Muslim players

Postby dazby » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:17 pm

Dubaimancityfan wrote:Muslims have no special preparations for Saturday as it is a normal day for them. Someone already mentioned Saturday is the Sabbath for Jews so, no issue here for Muslims. The holy day for Muslims is Friday but they do not fast as it is only the end of the week and they go to religious services, like Sunday for Christians really. Footbal is played on Fridays normally.


uslims only fast during daylight hours in the month of Ramadan which is 30 days a year and next one will fall in early August 2011 so some of our players (Kolo and Yaya, Ibrahim) will be affected for 2 weeks of new season. That is if they actually fast.
There are provisions in Islam that allows people to break fast under certain circumstances and compensate for it by fasting another day after Ramadan. For instance if you are travelling (away games) which is considered a hardship, then you can break fast and compensate for it.
In the Arab and Muslim world, football in Ramadan is played at night always (at least 2-3 hours after breaking fast) so its never an issue if players are fasting. But of course this cannot happen in Europe.

Having mentioned Yaya, I thought I'd give you some insight about his name. Yaya comes from the Arabic name Yahya which is the name of John the Baptist (a recognised Prophet in Islam) in the Quran, the Muslim holy book. That means that Yaya's English name is John. Since we've never found a nickname for Yaya, maybe we can start calling him John or Johnny !!
Kolo's full name is Habib Kolo Toure. Habib in Arabic means Loved One but I don't think there is a good English alternative for it.


Just the type of post I was fishing for. Thanks mate.
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Re: Muslim players

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:24 pm

Dubaimancityfan wrote:Muslims have no special preparations for Saturday as it is a normal day for them. Someone already mentioned Saturday is the Sabbath for Jews so, no issue here for Muslims. The holy day for Muslims is Friday but they do not fast as it is only the end of the week and they go to religious services, like Sunday for Christians really. Footbal is played on Fridays normally.


uslims only fast during daylight hours in the month of Ramadan which is 30 days a year and next one will fall in early August 2011 so some of our players (Kolo and Yaya, Ibrahim) will be affected for 2 weeks of new season. That is if they actually fast.
There are provisions in Islam that allows people to break fast under certain circumstances and compensate for it by fasting another day after Ramadan. For instance if you are travelling (away games) which is considered a hardship, then you can break fast and compensate for it.
In the Arab and Muslim world, football in Ramadan is played at night always (at least 2-3 hours after breaking fast) so its never an issue if players are fasting. But of course this cannot happen in Europe.

Having mentioned Yaya, I thought I'd give you some insight about his name. Yaya comes from the Arabic name Yahya which is the name of John the Baptist (a recognised Prophet in Islam) in the Quran, the Muslim holy book. That means that Yaya's English name is John. Since we've never found a nickname for Yaya, maybe we can start calling him John or Johnny !!
Kolo's full name is Habib Kolo Toure. Habib in Arabic means Loved One but I don't think there is a good English alternative for it.


Brilliant.. Johnny it is then!
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Re: Muslim players

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:30 pm

brite blu sky wrote:
Dubaimancityfan wrote:Muslims have no special preparations for Saturday as it is a normal day for them. Someone already mentioned Saturday is the Sabbath for Jews so, no issue here for Muslims. The holy day for Muslims is Friday but they do not fast as it is only the end of the week and they go to religious services, like Sunday for Christians really. Footbal is played on Fridays normally.


uslims only fast during daylight hours in the month of Ramadan which is 30 days a year and next one will fall in early August 2011 so some of our players (Kolo and Yaya, Ibrahim) will be affected for 2 weeks of new season. That is if they actually fast.
There are provisions in Islam that allows people to break fast under certain circumstances and compensate for it by fasting another day after Ramadan. For instance if you are travelling (away games) which is considered a hardship, then you can break fast and compensate for it.
In the Arab and Muslim world, football in Ramadan is played at night always (at least 2-3 hours after breaking fast) so its never an issue if players are fasting. But of course this cannot happen in Europe.

Having mentioned Yaya, I thought I'd give you some insight about his name. Yaya comes from the Arabic name Yahya which is the name of John the Baptist (a recognised Prophet in Islam) in the Quran, the Muslim holy book. That means that Yaya's English name is John. Since we've never found a nickname for Yaya, maybe we can start calling him John or Johnny !!
Kolo's full name is Habib Kolo Toure. Habib in Arabic means Loved One but I don't think there is a good English alternative for it.


Brilliant.. Johnny it is then!

I hope you get the chance to call him a Johnny, he's a big lad you know ;-)
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Re: Muslim players

Postby Mase » Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:34 pm

Burt wrote:
uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:Shalom!

Saturday is the Jewish sabbath - i'm no religous expert, but they're not supposed to work or do anything much on a Saturday as far as I know. Might explain West Ham's form.

Avram Grant and Don't Tell Ben Haim or whatever his name is missed a game a bit back cos of Yom Kippur or summat.

Anyone who thinks I don;t do my research is dead right btw, so correct me if I'm wrong.

On the subject of Rammadan though, I'm glad I'm not a muslim - I'm nearly passing out if I reach midday without food, and wouldn't think I'd be fit to drive. I'm not anti-islam (no more so than any other religion anyway), just pro-scran.


How does it work with Spurs then?


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Re: Muslim players

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:16 pm

uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:Shalom!

Saturday is the Jewish sabbath - i'm no religous expert, but they're not supposed to work or do anything much on a Saturday as far as I know. Might explain West Ham's form.

Avram Grant and Don't Tell Ben Haim or whatever his name is missed a game a bit back cos of Yom Kippur or summat.

Anyone who thinks I don;t do my research is dead right btw, so correct me if I'm wrong.

On the subject of Rammadan though, I'm glad I'm not a muslim - I'm nearly passing out if I reach midday without food, and wouldn't think I'd be fit to drive. I'm not anti-islam (no more so than any other religion anyway), just pro-scran.


had a couple of mates who lived in Jerusalem and they told me that you are not allowed to do anything on the Sabbath, so if you were driving through orthodox areas say with the radio on ( not allowed to listen or play music, or drive, or work ), then they would pelt your car with rocks! I thought fuclin hell how come you cant listen to the radio but are allowed to throw rocks!
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Re: Muslim players

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:36 pm

dazby wrote:
Dubaimancityfan wrote:Muslims have no special preparations for Saturday as it is a normal day for them. Someone already mentioned Saturday is the Sabbath for Jews so, no issue here for Muslims. The holy day for Muslims is Friday but they do not fast as it is only the end of the week and they go to religious services, like Sunday for Christians really. Footbal is played on Fridays normally.


uslims only fast during daylight hours in the month of Ramadan which is 30 days a year and next one will fall in early August 2011 so some of our players (Kolo and Yaya, Ibrahim) will be affected for 2 weeks of new season. That is if they actually fast.
There are provisions in Islam that allows people to break fast under certain circumstances and compensate for it by fasting another day after Ramadan. For instance if you are travelling (away games) which is considered a hardship, then you can break fast and compensate for it.
In the Arab and Muslim world, football in Ramadan is played at night always (at least 2-3 hours after breaking fast) so its never an issue if players are fasting. But of course this cannot happen in Europe.

Having mentioned Yaya, I thought I'd give you some insight about his name. Yaya comes from the Arabic name Yahya which is the name of John the Baptist (a recognised Prophet in Islam) in the Quran, the Muslim holy book. That means that Yaya's English name is John. Since we've never found a nickname for Yaya, maybe we can start calling him John or Johnny !!
Kolo's full name is Habib Kolo Toure. Habib in Arabic means Loved One but I don't think there is a good English alternative for it.


Just the type of post I was fishing for. Thanks mate.


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Re: Muslim players

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:54 pm

brite blu sky wrote:
uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:Shalom!

Saturday is the Jewish sabbath - i'm no religous expert, but they're not supposed to work or do anything much on a Saturday as far as I know. Might explain West Ham's form.

Avram Grant and Don't Tell Ben Haim or whatever his name is missed a game a bit back cos of Yom Kippur or summat.

Anyone who thinks I don;t do my research is dead right btw, so correct me if I'm wrong.

On the subject of Rammadan though, I'm glad I'm not a muslim - I'm nearly passing out if I reach midday without food, and wouldn't think I'd be fit to drive. I'm not anti-islam (no more so than any other religion anyway), just pro-scran.


had a couple of mates who lived in Jerusalem and they told me that you are not allowed to do anything on the Sabbath, so if you were driving through orthodox areas say with the radio on ( not allowed to listen or play music, or drive, or work ), then they would pelt your car with rocks! I thought fuclin hell how come you cant listen to the radio but are allowed to throw rocks!

That made me laugh, that is all.
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