Ibanez wins red card appeal

[TheGOAT]

Why the fuck have the FA rescinded this red card!!
The ref deemed Ibanez to have denied Campbell an obvious goalscoring opportunity! Which he had done, so why have they overturned it??

I think we all know why... ffs

[edgeley blue]

It was never a red card offence, which is why it was overturned and we shouldnt really be getting worried about what players WBA put out

[Lev Bronstein]

It wasn't a violent challenge, and from that point of view the red was harsh. But, it was a foul, and a foul that denied a clear goal scoring opportunity, so by the letter of the law it was a red. Some people seem to forget why the law was brought in, mainly because everyone was fed up of cynical, "professional" fouls that threatened to corrode the game.

[ThisIsOurCity]

It wasn't a violent challenge, and from that point of view the red was harsh. But, it was a foul, and a foul that denied a clear goal scoring opportunity, so by the letter of the law it was a red. Some people seem to forget why the law was brought in, mainly because everyone was fed up of cynical, "professional" fouls that threatened to corrode the game.

Funny how this card got rescinded but Boyata's didn't. For Boyata's there was even a good case that the ball
had already gone beyond the strikers control.

[TheGOAT]

It was never a red card offence, which is why it was overturned and we shouldnt really be getting worried about what players WBA put out

But our opinion doesnt matter. The ref thought it was a red. He then gave his reasons for it, which are legitimate.
It shouldn't have been rescinded! I'm not worried about the players they have, it's just annoying. If they were playing United next do you think this would have happened??

[edgeley blue]

It was never a red card offence, which is why it was overturned and we shouldnt really be getting worried about what players WBA put out

But our opinion doesnt matter. The ref thought it was a red. He then gave his reasons for it, which are legitimate.
It shouldn't have been rescinded! I'm not worried about the players they have, it's just annoying. If they were playing United next do you think this would have happened??

Being honest Goat, if they were playing rags then No it wouldnt have been rescinded.
I still didnt think it was a red though and for it to be rescinded, I am sure the ref has to see it again and then basically say he has made a mistake.

[ayrshireblue]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Two very different cases. It would've been embarrasing had we appealed for what was as clear sending off as you can get. Ibanez case wasn't worth red.

[Alioune DVToure]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Two very different cases. It would've been embarrasing had we appealed for what was as clear sending off as you can get. Ibanez case wasn't worth red.

Were they, though? I bet the referees' reports both read:

'Last man, mistimed challenge, straight red.'

Both were clear-as-day reds to me, and I'd be interested to know the grounds on which he's been let off.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Two very different cases. It would've been embarrasing had we appealed for what was as clear sending off as you can get. Ibanez case wasn't worth red.

Were they, though? I bet the referees' reports both read:

'Last man, mistimed challenge, straight red.'

Both were clear-as-day reds to me, and I'd be interested to know the grounds on which he's been let off.

There may have been slight obstruction in Ibanez case but it was borderline at best. Perhaps worth a yellow and penalty but personally I wouldn't have given anything for it. Boyata's challenge was clear as day late challenge stopping player getting into scoring position.

More interesting question is how WBA player who got the second red hasn't been vilified in press the same way as De Jong was. Ten million times wilder challenge.

[ayrshireblue]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Two very different cases. It would've been embarrasing had we appealed for what was as clear sending off as you can get. Ibanez case wasn't worth red.

The original poster was asking why Ibanez card was rescinded but Boyata's not. I was just highlighting that we didn't appeal but WBA did. I agree that if we had it would have been embarrassing. I also agree that the second WBA players tackle was worse than De Jong's.

[TheGOAT]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Your missing my point!
It dosn't matter if it was harsh, there was still grounds to give it. And the referee explained the decision in his match report. Im just asking why therefore it was overturned. Im not worried about West Brom, im not saying the FA are out to get us. I just dont think it should have been rescinded.

[ayrshireblue]

Why the fuck have the FA rescinded this red card!!
The ref deemed Ibanez to have denied Campbell an obvious goalscoring opportunity! Which he had done, so why have they overturned it??

I think we all know why... ffs

Does the last line of your original post not show that you think they're all out to get us? If the red card shouldn't be rescinded you could argue that there should be no appeals at all as the referees decision is final. Sometimes though things are seen at the time that become apparent weren't there, eg a clear goalscoring opportunity or intent to foul, so there is the right of appeal which some clubs have been known to abuse.

[TheGOAT]

Why the fuck have the FA rescinded this red card!!
The ref deemed Ibanez to have denied Campbell an obvious goalscoring opportunity! Which he had done, so why have they overturned it??

I think we all know why... ffs

Does the last line of your original post not show that you think they're all out to get us? If the red card shouldn't be rescinded you could argue that there should be no appeals at all as the referees decision is final. Sometimes though things are seen at the time that become apparent weren't there, eg a clear goalscoring opportunity or intent to foul, so there is the right of appeal which some clubs have been known to abuse.

No i'm not arguing that at all. You should be allowed to appeal if the ref has made a mistake. But in this instance he didn't. A seperate panels opinion has got this rescinded, which in my opinion is wrong.

[CityGer]

Did we even appeal Boyata's red card? Time for the paranoia to stop. It really is ridiculous. If we're worried about a WBA centre half that few of us knew before Monday night being available then we should give up now. Ibanez's red card was harsh, it wasn't rescinded because they are playing Big Bad City on Saturday but because they appealed against the decision, we could have appealed Boyata's red card but decided not to. Simple.

Your missing my point!
It dosn't matter if it was harsh, there was still grounds to give it. And the referee explained the decision in his match report. Im just asking why therefore it was overturned. Im not worried about West Brom, im not saying the FA are out to get us. I just dont think it should have been rescinded.

Yes you are and if not why this in your initial post

I think we all know why... ffs

Paranoia of extreme proportions and it's cringe worthy. As was the climb down when the idiocy of your theory was pointed out to you. The press may be out to nail us at every opportunity but let's not go down the route of suggesting that the FA are as it's just paranoid bullshit which makes us look daft.