Henry Winter Sticking Up For Us

[johnny crossan]

Here's Henry in today's Suppository
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Embattled Henry II
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[Ted Hughes]

That geordie bloke usually gives us more stick than his rag supporting namesake. Strange how some elements in the media seem to really dislike us & with many, like Paul Meson for instance, it comes from well before Thaksin took over. Bizarre.

[Im_Spartacus]

I don't disagree with a single thing any of the journos said about us there. Custis was simply pointing out the blindingly obvious about the disharmony in the club. We can call them cunts and pretend that it isnt true, but the fact is, it is true. Mancini seems to have been just as devisive as Hughes was.

Winter is the current "goto person" when City want to feed a story to the press, so I would expect he would comment positively for us as he has in recent weeks to keep his relationship with Cook/Marwood or whoever it is he has an in with.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't disagree with a single thing any of the journos said about us there. Custis was simply pointing out the blindingly obvious about the disharmony in the club. We can call them cunts and pretend that it isnt true, but the fact is, it is true. Mancini seems to have been just as devisive as Hughes was.

Winter is the current "goto person" when City want to feed a story to the press, so I would expect he would comment positively for us as he has in recent weeks to keep his relationship with Cook/Marwood or whoever it is he has an in with.

I don't buy the 'disharmony' stuff. There are players fighting for places & some who want to leave in Jan but nothing out of the ordinary imo. If we've got disharmony what about fucking Rooney & Fabregas?

[avoidconfusion]

Good on Winter... especially Shaun Custis is talking so much bollocks it is unreal.

[guv111]

Winter seemed to be sticking up for Mancini rather than City.

Also, Custis seemed about to burst into tears any moment because someone dared to disagree with him, and as for Brian Woolnough, anyone who works for a paper which tells us every day that Man U are going to sign such-and-such a star player has no credibility as a journalist whatsoever.

[ashton287]

I like the way they actually know what tevez thinks. Being john malkovich style.

[Im_Spartacus]

I like the way they actually know what tevez thinks. Being john malkovich style.

I like the way that us, who have zero contact within Manchester City Football Club, think we know more than journalists who, like it or not, have their sources. Yes they sensationalise things, but I didn't hear anything on that clip which surprised me, or for that matter was new.

Is it not common sense to be asking why players directly disobey Mancini?
Is it not common sense to ask why Tevez is having blazing rows with Mancini at half time?
Is it not common sense to ask why players are at each other's throats on the pitch?

Hardly comes across as the model of harmony, so I suppose you can do two things, have your concerns, or stick your head in the sand and pretend it is all because of the big bad journalists and that it will go away.

[Dubciteh]

whos the tanned guy that wants to challenge for league?what a tool!

[Ted Hughes]

I like the way they actually know what tevez thinks. Being john malkovich style.

I like the way that us, who have zero contact within Manchester City Football Club, think we know more than journalists who, like it or not, have their sources. Yes they sensationalise things, but I didn't hear anything on that clip which surprised me, or for that matter was new.

Is it not common sense to be asking why players directly disobey Mancini?
Is it not common sense to ask why Tevez is having blazing rows with Mancini at half time?
Is it not common sense to ask why players are at each other's throats on the pitch?

Hardly comes across as the model of harmony, so I suppose you can do two things, have your concerns, or stick your head in the sand and pretend it is all because of the big bad journalists and that it will go away.

You're assuming that some bloke from Newcastle knows more about the workings of City than we do? Why? There are thousands of us blues in cyberspace & some actually work for the club & even get in the dressing room. They're not saying there are big problems at City. Doug watches them train every day & never sees anything but good team spirit. Why should some twat who lives miles away & has no particular interest in City whatsoever have a better handle on things than us?

Most of the stuff they print about City every day is pure lies. Most of the players they say we're going to sign are made up. Why should this suddenly be true just because we've lost a game?

[Chinners]

Most football journalists are merely a rung lower than most politicians or the social scum ladder .... imo

[Dameerto]

Gutter press, exploiting their 15 minutes of fame.

[mcfctm]

I like the way they actually know what tevez thinks. Being john malkovich style.

I like the way that us, who have zero contact within Manchester City Football Club, think we know more than journalists who, like it or not, have their sources. Yes they sensationalise things, but I didn't hear anything on that clip which surprised me, or for that matter was new.

Is it not common sense to be asking why players directly disobey Mancini?
Is it not common sense to ask why Tevez is having blazing rows with Mancini at half time?
Is it not common sense to ask why players are at each other's throats on the pitch?

Hardly comes across as the model of harmony, so I suppose you can do two things, have your concerns, or stick your head in the sand and pretend it is all because of the big bad journalists and that it will go away.

You're assuming that some bloke from Newcastle knows more about the workings of City than we do? Why? There are thousands of us blues in cyberspace & some actually work for the club & even get in the dressing room. They're not saying there are big problems at City. Doug watches them train every day & never sees anything but good team spirit. Why should some twat who lives miles away & has no particular interest in City whatsoever have a better handle on things than us?

Most of the stuff they print about City every day is pure lies. Most of the players they say we're going to sign are made up. Why should this suddenly be true just because we've lost a game?

Spot on Ted

[Beefymcfc]

It was funny how Winter staties that we are basing our future on the youth, which came from above Mancini (ie. Cook), yet they go on to state that we have give up on it and it's been ripped apart 'cos we can spend money on whoever we want.

And Custis, what a total and utter idiot that man is saying we should expect to win the title. Yes, some believe we have a chance with the squad we have got but do City fans actually expect it like he says?

Did Winter call Custis a fool by the way, 'cos he sure as hell insinuated it.

[john68]

Custis isn't qa cunt...He just appears that way. His target audience is the uneducated rabble that feed and get fat off sensational shite. If it ain't sensational, the audience is disappointed. Everything has to be an extreme situation.
If Mancini goes for a shit, he's unforgiveably left the players tp fend for themselves and walked out of the club.

IT IS NORMAL THAT PLAYERS DISAGREE AND OFTEN HAVE A SHARP WORD WITH EACH OTHER. It happens in every other club, every office, every factory, every group of lads that go put for a pint together...pro sport is an emotional occupation, sharp words are inevitable but not such a big deal.

Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke were reputed to hardly speak to each other. Didn't spoil their professional partnership. Neither was it targetted by the media in order to destabilise the rags.

[zuricity]

My team won 5-0 yesterday, we're now top of the league and will stay 'winter Master' because the season now starts again in February.

However, during and after the match some lads needed to argue with each other.Sometimes quite vitriolic.

We all went in after the game , discussed the problem over a few beers, got it sorted and all went home happy
Except me !
I went to watch City in the Pub, live on TV and thought after 20 minutes we would eventually win this game about 5-0. We didn't and I'm as surprised as anybody else that we let Wolves back into the game. I put that down to the midfield being 1 person , David Silva and Micah and Kolo having an off day. Their goals were pretty shabby gifts from us , to say the least - they were hardly brilliant moves and strikes on Wolves behalf. If it's any consolation,I'd rather we had a shocker now than at the end of November.

I'll be happy when we can have Kolorov on the left Boateng on the right and Kompany and Kolo in the middle. and keep it that way.

Barry is having a terrible season start again. I think Milner will get it sorted Perhaps we need Nije, Silva, Milner and Ya Ya. Rather than Barry, who last week against Arsenal was really poor ( yes was at the game).

I'm still at a loss as to where it went wrong yesterday, although I must say I would have started Zaba on the left and Jerome on the right and given Zaba instructions to nail that little Cnut Hunt. I can't stand the little fake.

[Im_Spartacus]

I like the way they actually know what tevez thinks. Being john malkovich style.

I like the way that us, who have zero contact within Manchester City Football Club, think we know more than journalists who, like it or not, have their sources. Yes they sensationalise things, but I didn't hear anything on that clip which surprised me, or for that matter was new.

Is it not common sense to be asking why players directly disobey Mancini?
Is it not common sense to ask why Tevez is having blazing rows with Mancini at half time?
Is it not common sense to ask why players are at each other's throats on the pitch?

Hardly comes across as the model of harmony, so I suppose you can do two things, have your concerns, or stick your head in the sand and pretend it is all because of the big bad journalists and that it will go away.

You're assuming that some bloke from Newcastle knows more about the workings of City than we do? Why? There are thousands of us blues in cyberspace & some actually work for the club & even get in the dressing room. They're not saying there are big problems at City. Doug watches them train every day & never sees anything but good team spirit. Why should some twat who lives miles away & has no particular interest in City whatsoever have a better handle on things than us?

Most of the stuff they print about City every day is pure lies. Most of the players they say we're going to sign are made up. Why should this suddenly be true just because we've lost a game?

Spot on Ted

No, I am assuming that anybody who is a senior football reporter for a daily national has a network of contacts in professional football, which has enabled him to get to the position he is in. Whilst there is no doubt mischief making a lot of the time, there is also a lot of truth in some of the stories.

To give one example, when the Rooney story broke in the Sunday papers about him wanting to leave, Manchester United initially flat out denied that this was the case. As far as I can see it, somebody somewhere knew what Rooney was upto and reported it. Seeing as United rubbished the story in the afternoon, the papers were "discredited" because people wanted to believe the club over a tabloid newspaper. Who was in fact telling the lies?

There was another story regarding Bellamy where I remember you got quite heated when I pointed out that the clubs version of events, based on something Doug had told us appeared to be flawed, if not totally untrue. Where is Bellamy now?

Most of the stuff about transfers are made up for every club, we are not special in that regard.

If you choose not to believe it, thats fine. I choose not to believe a lot of it, in particular the hyperbole used like "metldown" and other emotive, strong words, but that doesn't make me blinkered enough to automatically assume everything written about the club is shite. Thats taking a siege mentality a touch too far.

[avoidconfusion]

What I find the most ridiculous is that twats like Custis were the once who kept reportign that Hughes lost the dressing room, the players hated him bla bla bla... now they suddenly loved him and are pissed that he was sacked??

[Manx Blue]

I havent read the whole thread, but I'm sure Winter and Custis had a ding-dong on one of the Radio 5 podcasts not so long ago. I think Woolnough was on the ame broadcast too from memory.