Adebayor off. Zabeleta on.

[paulmclaren]

Makes perfect sense to me.. Adebayor is a bag of wank.

It's not really saying much but he was our best player today.

Totally agree, ades best performance for a while.
Very weird decision, thought boateng was terrible, again.

[Dubaimancityfan]

Makes perfect sense to me.. Adebayor is a bag of wank.

It's not really saying much but he was our best player today.

Totally agree, ades best performance for a while.
Very weird decision, thought boateng was terrible, again.

Agree, Ade was trying hard and with him on the field there was always a chance that he would have scored. Mario never looked likely to score and looked out of his depth but can't really blame him as it was his first start and at an away match. RM made the same bad decision against Arse when he brought on Mario instead of AJ and I said at the time that it was the wrong time and conditions to introduce Mario.

One explanation is that Mancini had given up on this match and rested Ade for Thursday but that's hard to swallow.

[Beefymcfc]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

[MaineRoadMemories]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

Every week last season when watching Rafa at Liverpool :-D

[Beefymcfc]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

Every week last season when watching Rafa at Liverpool :-D

Say's it all. I hate this shit!

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Quite frankly it was a terrible decision that had me throw my remote at the tv.

Had Hughes made it there would have been a poll, guranteed. It's one of theose ones that has you wondering if he really does have any plan b.

[Grob]

That was bad enough but when Jo trotted on with 10 minutes to go and instantly miss control his first touch i felt like crying

Mancini was at the height of his usual high quality tactical buffoonery with both substitutions

Still 4th though

[Pretty Boy Lee]

That was bad enough but when Jo trotted on with 10 minutes to go and instantly miss control his first touch i felt like crying

Mancini was at the height of his usual high quality tactical buffoonery with both substitutions

Still 4th though

Should be 2nd. If people truly beleive (and its said on here enough) that we have the 2nd best squad in the league, then surely finishing below 2nd means the manager has failed.

The teams above us didn't need to hand in their carling cup ticket to stay there either.

[Im_Spartacus]

Quite frankly it was a terrible decision that had me throw my remote at the tv.

Had Hughes made it there would have been a poll, guranteed. It's one of theose ones that has you wondering if he really does have any plan b.

See now I don't particularly like either because I think that good players papered over a lot of the tactical cracks for both managers.

I suppose that the main difference is that we were already chasing this game when the managerial stupidity began. When Hughes pulled his Gelson substitution vs Liverpool (still the most stupid substitution in the whole of football history), he actively lost us the game, as he subsequently did on a number of occasions.

Hughes got away with a lot of the shit for the Liverpool game as there was still optimism for the season, as there is right now. However, with Hughes, in both seasons, things started to fall to ratshit once the whole league had figured out he was tactically inept, and the fans really only got on his back once that became serious.

The way Mancini is being treated is no different, we are still in a good position, and don't look like committing Hari Kari just yet, however if the blip turns into a run, he better get himself a flak jacket, because substitutions like yesterdays just add fuel to the fire.

[ant london]

It was a frankly loony substitution but after having slept on it I can say that not many people representing City emerged from yesterday's match in any kind of positive light

Silva was good and I personally thought Adebayor and Milner did their jobs well. Everyone else (including RM) had a day to forget.

It was shit and I was apparently a fucking "nightmare to deal with" all evening afterwards. Half cut and on the verge of something unpleasant all evening I've been told

[pepsi_dave]

People at the ground were bangin about this aswell, I couldnt work out why?! Mancini wasnt making like for like changes.

The ONLY change he got wrong was bringin jo on.

We were playing a 4-2-3-1 all game from what I saw and started with

Micah - Kolo - Vinni - JB
------Barry----Yaya-------
Milner----Silva---Balo
-----------Ade-----------

Then we changed barry for johnson, and Milner dropped back into barrys position. NOT a like for like swap but no one had a problem with this change. We maintained formation and shape.

Micah - Kolo - Vinni - JB
------Milner----Yaya-------
Johnson----Silva-----Balo
-------------Ade-----------

Then he brought zabba on for ade - again NOT a like for like swap but the whole place is in uproar. He put zabba at LB and boateng alongside yaya, balo went up top and milner played on the left. Again we maintained our shape and formation with each player being competent enough for each position they were in.... I for one couldnt understand the furore!!!

Micah --- Kolo - Vinni - Zabba
---------Yaya------Boateng-------
Johnson-----Silva-----Milner
---------------Balo-----------

IMO if we had started with that team above not many people would have had an issue with zabba and johnson being shown in those positions, Ade being out of the first 11 and Balo up top on his own. But because of the personnel he changed and when he changed it people now have an issue and want Mancinis head to roll.

We all just need to chill, believe it or not even the Barca's, Reals, and Inters etc lose football games and sometimes put in horrible performances, this was one of those performances and one of those defeats. I will eat my fucking shorts if we ever play that badly again while Bobby Manc is in charge!!!

[Beefymcfc]

That is all well and good on paper PD, but in reality the players on the pitch at the time changes that view. Yaya and Mario for instance.

[Slim]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

I think Mancini made a sub before that baffled us. Maybe last season when we played without a right wing for about 5 minutes.

[Beefymcfc]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

I think Mancini made a sub before that baffled us. Maybe last season when we played without a right wing for about 5 minutes.

He's made a few that have baffled me and the one you state was one of the most confusing. The right wing was totally empty but luckily the oppo never noticed and didn't take advantage. It was something like AJ or Shaun coming off and no-one moved into cover.

[Slim]

Can anyone tell me how lost they have been (over the last 30 years) to see the changes they've seen today?

I think Mancini made a sub before that baffled us. Maybe last season when we played without a right wing for about 5 minutes.

He's made a few that have baffled me and the one you state was one of the most confusing. The right wing was totally empty but luckily the oppo never noticed and didn't take advantage. It was something like AJ or Shaun coming off and no-one moved into cover.

I think Aj came off and it took him 5 minutes to bring Shauny on.

[bluej]

Can add Milner off VK on to this thread now. It was quite clear that PV was struggling to hold the middle of the pitch but taking off one of our more potent threats didn't make sense.

[Dunnylad]

Can add Milner off VK on to this thread now. It was quite clear that PV was struggling to hold the middle of the pitch but taking off one of our more potent threats didn't make sense.

Like for like wasn't the answer, we were being controlled in the middle of the park, made sense to take either AJ or Milner off, sadly it was harder to predict a poor clearance off their player (which could have gone anywhere) and a cracking shot which may or may not should have been a free kick earlier to us.

[bluej]

Can add Milner off VK on to this thread now. It was quite clear that PV was struggling to hold the middle of the pitch but taking off one of our more potent threats didn't make sense.

Like for like wasn't the answer, we were being controlled in the middle of the park, made sense to take either AJ or Milner off, sadly it was harder to predict a poor clearance off their player (which could have gone anywhere) and a cracking shot which may or may not should have been a free kick earlier to us.

We were being controlled in the middle of the park because PV was dead on his feet, taking Milner off meant we were still carrying him without the ability to go forward.

[Dunnylad]

Can add Milner off VK on to this thread now. It was quite clear that PV was struggling to hold the middle of the pitch but taking off one of our more potent threats didn't make sense.

Like for like wasn't the answer, we were being controlled in the middle of the park, made sense to take either AJ or Milner off, sadly it was harder to predict a poor clearance off their player (which could have gone anywhere) and a cracking shot which may or may not should have been a free kick earlier to us.

We were being controlled in the middle of the park because PV was dead on his feet, taking Milner off meant we were still carrying him without the ability to go forward.

Going forward was the least of our problems - in fact yo could be really cruel and argue that VK never got rid for the 3rd, although it was pretty much academic in the grand scheme of things.

[Beefymcfc]

Can add Milner off VK on to this thread now. It was quite clear that PV was struggling to hold the middle of the pitch but taking off one of our more potent threats didn't make sense.

Like for like wasn't the answer, we were being controlled in the middle of the park, made sense to take either AJ or Milner off, sadly it was harder to predict a poor clearance off their player (which could have gone anywhere) and a cracking shot which may or may not should have been a free kick earlier to us.

We were being controlled in the middle of the park because PV was dead on his feet, taking Milner off meant we were still carrying him without the ability to go forward.

Going forward was the least of our problems - in fact yo could be really cruel and argue that VK never got rid for the 3rd, although it was pretty much academic in the grand scheme of things.

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