Beefymcfc wrote:the_georgian_genius wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:the_georgian_genius wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I can't believe how some people are getting heated up over it. Next time you're at the match and you hear somone around you singing it, tell them your thoughts and see what they say. I don't reckon any single person sings it because they want to celebrate the deaths of so many, but because it is a way to get at the Rags; nothing more.
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So, so wrong and it is saddening to see that people think that is an acceptable justification for it.
Don't talk bollox man and don't give me the 'All High and Mighty' approach. I personally do not sing any Munich songs since I was old enough to understand them, but the truth is, there are lots who do and it's not out of disrespect but out of a sense of goading; like prodding away at their fickle little minds with a shitty stick.
What really pisses me off is people like yourself who feel the need to tell people who they are and box them up in a nice little place so you can feel above them. Are any of these people really having ago at the Munich Disaster? Well I think the recent Derby where 3000 City fans stood back-to-back with United in a tribute to those lost souls can tell you that; does the word 'Impeccable' spring to your mind?
I tell you what mate, like I said, why not go down to the SS and East Corner and start your own songs that display the same vitriol, but that gives them true respect that they obviously deserve. But maybe, just maybe you'll understand what goes on between 2 sets of fans who show a real hatred for each other during such a game, and possibly some of their very own flying with their arms out asking why we ain't giving it them.
Like I say, I don't do it but if someone else wants to, then crack on - I ain't your keeper!
Let me ask you this question then mate before it goes on and on and on with no end. What if the rags started calling us Big Malcs in reference to us to wind us up, even going as far as what some city fans do with the aeroplane movements with their arms by prentending to smoke a cigar at the next derby? Would that be acceptable and just part of the game or would it be a sad and pathetic excuse of a wind up because they are celebrating death?
Like i said, you obviously don't understand it and have been brought up thinking it is ok and part and parcel of football but i know if anyone called me a Big Malc then i would just look at them thinking they are pathetic and worthless being in their company which i have done in the past including fellow blues, and that is no being houlier than hou or all high and mighty, it's just common sense and common decency.
Ha ha ha, it gets worse. I fully understand it after growing up with it but rivalry's in football aren't about sitting still and applauding when something goes right and bowing your head when it goes wrong; the passion of such occassions gets to people and the group momentum takes over from the individual.
And who says they won't do the Big Mal thing, there's always a few and once they do they'll be greeted with and angry reposte of 'You Munich Bastard' I'd suggest. And that's it there in a nutshell, tit-4-tat and whatever your virtues, you don't actually have any way of stopping it and it will only be time that does.
One thing I'd like to know from yourself is where do you sit and what songs do you sing, and did you ever go to Maine Road in the Kippax or North Stand?
Right ok so if Liverpool start singing songs about Big Mal and Foe then it's acceptable to reply with songs of Heysel and Hillsborogh as they started it? Same with Exeter, if they start being vile about Big Malc then we will simply respond with songs about Adam Stansfield as that is what football is all about, whatever the opposition do, we can respond with something the same or even worse, that is football, eye for an eye ect ect ect
I stood on the Kippax from 89-94 before moving to the north stand from 94-2003 and the south stand from 06-08, i don't know why that information has anything to do with the subject, i never joined in with any of the songs about tragedies of fellow clubs but joined in with the hatred of those clubs in another way.
You laughed when i said you don't understand it and it is still true so lets not go back and forth shall we and just end it now, it's one both sides will never agree with which IMO is sad but that's life.
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