Have the club been wastefull on strikers ?

[Lev Bronstein]

On a plus point, those few years when we had the Goat, Huckerby, Wanchop and Anelka - serious amount of goals from that lot. (Buying Fowler was a waste, some important goals, but only 9 in all if I remember. Still, his celebration in front of the Rags when he scored at COMS was class)

[Socrates]

Fowler was actually about 4.5m - it was 3m+3m in add ons but Leeds settled at 4.5 million in order to get out of paying half his wages! he actually scored 20 goals for us and scored at a rate of better than 1 in 2 games when Anelka wasn't on the pitch! Seems very cheap now when compared to RSC...

[Slim]

Four people have mentioned Castillo, every single one getting his name wrong. I think that says all we need to know about him.

[Beanieboy]

THE SCARFMAN THE SCARFMAN!!!! Biiaaaaacchhhhi

[Beefymcfc]

I like to call it 'Dynamic' ;-)

[ronk]

We have a shocking record with strikers. I can't even begin to get my head around what exactly the problem is.

Our academy hasn't produced young forwards of any note with the exception of Sturridge, who was bags of trouble.

We have a shocking, shocking record with getting consistency from our top goalscorers. Anelka is the last player we have who's spent more than one season at the top of our charts and even he ended up badly shortly after. It's always been a feature of the club for as long as I can remember, losing our best forwards, usually controversy somewhere in there.

There's always something. Looking back it's simply amazing the string of wild risks we've continued to take with such an important position. There have been exceptions where no one was in the least bit concerned, with good reason, like Tevez and Anelka. There were even the pleasant surprises of Vassell and Bellamy. More often there's been a gloomy inevitability where we all really knew there was something wrong: Jo, RSC, Macken, Bradbury, Bianchi, Samaras, Fowler. We desperately wanted it to work, but it was doomed, doomed, doomed.

[Burt]

Four people have mentioned Castillo, every single one getting his name wrong. I think that says all we need to know about him.

But we didn't buy Castillo. He was just a January loan player for 4 months so how he's appeared in this thread bemuses me.

[dazby]

It's probably the hardest position to be successful in. I'm sure every club could come up with a list that's just as long.

We're not unique in this regard.

[Blue Blood]

THE SCARFMAN THE SCARFMAN!!!! Biiaaaaacchhhhi

He was good!

Sven didn't give the guy a chance. Still gutted he didn't get a good crack at it here, he was a city legend in the making i tell ya!!

[ronk]

THE SCARFMAN THE SCARFMAN!!!! Biiaaaaacchhhhi

He was good!

Sven didn't give the guy a chance. Still gutted he didn't get a good crack at it here, he was a city legend in the making i tell ya!!

He left of his own accord. Never settled. Good player, lot of time for him. Isn't he banging them in for Torino.

[Slim]

Bianchi started crying two games in, not a great deal Sven could do about it really. Was a good player and if he had managed to settle in Manchester he would have been 15-20+ a season I am certain, no real fault on anyone here as long as he was honest and not just whinging for whinging's sake.

[Sister of fu]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

[Slim]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

Partially down to having his friends gunned down on the teambus as well.....get rid!

[Sister of fu]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

Partially down to having his friends gunned down on the teambus as well.....get rid!

So whats the excuse prior to that incident. Wenger does not sell players with out good reason and his must have laughed his bollocks off when he saw us coming with a 25 mill bid. I expect so much more for that kind of money.

[Dubaimancityfan]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

Partially down to having his friends gunned down on the teambus as well.....get rid!

So whats the excuse prior to that incident. Wenger does not sell players with out good reason and his must have laughed his bollocks off when he saw us coming with a 25 mill bid. I expect so much more for that kind of money.

Ade played 26 League matches last season and scored 14, so that's not a bad record. Can't remeber if he scored in Cup matches ?
His best form was at the begining of the season which was interrupted by the ban after the Arsenal match (was it 5 matches ?) . He also had another 3 match ban (can't remember the match in which he was red carded for an alledged elbowing foul).
The incident at the African Nations Cup did not help but he did come back and score a few more goals.
So I would hardly class him as waste of money so far. Let's see how he does by end of this season and then we can make a judgment.

[The Man In Blue]

anyone who thinks needles was a waste of money is wrong on several levels. don't remember the spring of '07?

[ronk]

Adebayor missed 7 games through suspension over 2 red cards that were highly controversial and that many of us were deeply unhappy about the awarding of. Aside from them the only yellow card he got last season was for celebrating in front of the Arsenal fans. Since that booking was for time-wasting it was technically incorrect as he didn't leave the field of play and he was in position for the game to restart within a normal time. I felt that he was unfairly victimised over that incident. Certainly the card against Stoke was harsh.

He had a few niggling injuries too and at the moment seems to have lost his place due to a tactical change.

[Sister of fu]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

Partially down to having his friends gunned down on the teambus as well.....get rid!

So whats the excuse prior to that incident. Wenger does not sell players with out good reason and his must have laughed his bollocks off when he saw us coming with a 25 mill bid. I expect so much more for that kind of money.

Ade played 26 League matches last season and scored 14, so that's not a bad record. Can't remeber if he scored in Cup matches ?
His best form was at the begining of the season which was interrupted by the ban after the Arsenal match (was it 5 matches ?) . He also had another 3 match ban (can't remember the match in which he was red carded for an alledged elbowing foul).
The incident at the African Nations Cup did not help but he did come back and score a few more goals.
So I would hardly class him as waste of money so far. Let's see how he does by end of this season and then we can make a judgment.

Do you think he will still be here by the end of the season after his outbursts?? I think he may get shipped in January. I would really love him to prove me wrong in the mean time but not sure Roberto rates him or whats him at the club?

[Dubaimancityfan]

Why is Ade not on the list?? For 25 mill IMO he has been one of the worst of the lot. One outstanding game in a season is not good enough, and before you say he didn't play a lot, was that not down partially to his own stupid antics? I will be glad when he is gone and we get a proper centre forward one that doesn't just to turn up when he can be arsed.

Partially down to having his friends gunned down on the teambus as well.....get rid!

So whats the excuse prior to that incident. Wenger does not sell players with out good reason and his must have laughed his bollocks off when he saw us coming with a 25 mill bid. I expect so much more for that kind of money.

Ade played 26 League matches last season and scored 14, so that's not a bad record. Can't remeber if he scored in Cup matches ?
His best form was at the begining of the season which was interrupted by the ban after the Arsenal match (was it 5 matches ?) . He also had another 3 match ban (can't remember the match in which he was red carded for an alledged elbowing foul).
The incident at the African Nations Cup did not help but he did come back and score a few more goals.
So I would hardly class him as waste of money so far. Let's see how he does by end of this season and then we can make a judgment.

Do you think he will still be here by the end of the season after his outbursts?? I think he may get shipped in January. I would really love him to prove me wrong in the mean time but not sure Roberto rates him or whats him at the club?

I think Bobby explained in his interview yesterday that there was no outburst. Just a normal discussion about his injury and that he might even be in the squad against WBA (we'll see tonight). As to whether he'll still be with us by end of season, who knows. But that's another matter. And even if he goes, he'll go for a decent price, so again not a waste of money.