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Postby ant london » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:44 am

The Question: What is a playmaker's role in the modern game?
A creator not a scorer, who can play deep or interchangeably as a second striker, it is a position that's difficult to define

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Playmakers re-emerged at the World Cup, largely because of the development of 4-2-3-1 as the most common formation: it's impossible to play the system successfully without at least one creator in the line of three. As I tried to trace the lineage of the playmaker though, to map his rise and fall, it became increasingly difficult to define exactly what constitutes a playmaker, and when Barney Ronay asked me whom the first playmaker had been, I found it difficult to answer.

I'm in Argentina at the moment and here the question seems facile. The playmaker is the enganche, the hook, the No10, the player who operates behind the front two in the 4-3-1-2 or the 3-4-1-2 that around half the teams still favour. So revered is the position that Boca Juniors have just agreed to pay Juan Román Riquelme $5m over the next four years – including half his tax – despite the fact that he is 32 and increasingly suffers injury problems.

But elsewhere the question is more fraught. In Croatia, for instance, Luka Modric would be considered a playmaker, and when he was at Dinamo Zagreb he played as an enganche in a 3-4-1-2. Yet on Saturday for Tottenham he operated as one of the two central players in a 4-4-2 and he has played on the left: is he still a playmaker even if he is not playing in a formation with a 1 in it? Can a playmaker play anywhere other than the centre? And, for that matter, given how Tom Huddlestone sprays the ball around, isn't he also a playmaker, although one of a very different type to Modric?

Origins

The playmaker is his side's prime creator, the hook that joins midfield and attack. When football was in its infancy and formations were slowly emerging from the chaos of the mob game, the creators were the inside-forwards whose job was to take the ball from the wing-halves and feed the centre-forward or the wingers. In the first international, a goalless draw in 1872, England seem to have played a 1-2-7 formation and been flummoxed by the 2-2-6 used by Scotland.

It is difficult to be sure how England arranged their forward-line, largely because contemporary accounts suggest they operated with two left-wings, but a fair guess would be that their two inside-forwards were Cuthbert Ottaway and Arnold Kirke-Smith, although as England eschewed passing it is hard to see how they could be considered creators.

Of Scotland, with their revolutionary 2-2-6, there is a little more evidence and we can be reasonably sure their two inside-forwards were Robert Leckie and James Begg Smith. They did pass, so perhaps they can be considered the first playmakers, although it was only really when the 2-3-5, into which 2-2-6 soon evolved, reached South America that the inside-forwards began to drop deeper towards the midfield and take on the role of linking midfield and attack. The Uruguay side of the 1920s, Olympic champions in 1924 and 1928, were probably the most effective at that, so perhaps the first playmakers were Pedro Cea and Héctor Scarone.

Yet it feels odd to talk about a side having two playmakers (although it is commonly said that River Plate's la Máquina side of the late 1940s had five, even after the departure of Alfredo di Stéfano). As 2-3-5 became W-M (or 3-2-2-3), it seems one of the two inside-forwards took on a more creative role, as, for instance, Alex James did for Herbert Chapman's Arsenal. His job was to gather the ball from defence and initiate sweeping counterattacks with long, low, through-balls to the wingers, and so he was, in a sense, the first British playmaker.

4-2-4 and beyond

The process was formalised in Brazil in the late 1940s with the development of the diagonal. A form of the W-M had been implanted at Flamengo in 1937 by the Hungarian Dori Kruschner and, after he was sacked, his assistant Flávio Costa took charge. Costa had been scathing about Kruschner's tactical innovations but, recognising their worth, modified them, nudging the central square of the W-M so it became a rhombus, with either the inside-left pushed higher up the pitch and the right-half dropped deeper, or vice-versa.

The advanced inside-forward became known as the ponta da lança (point of the lance) and had a clearly defined function in joining midfield and attack. Even when the rhombus was nudged a little further and 3-2-2-3 became 4-2-4, the ponta da lança tended to drop deep from the frontline as a playmaking second striker: a role Pele shone at in the 1958 World Cup.

But in Europe the evolution towards 4-2-4 came via a different route as the centre-forward began to drop deep. Matthias Sindelar was the first to do that, for Hugo Meisl's Austrian Wunderteam, pulling away from the other four forwards and focusing less on scoring than on creating. In the modern sense, he was probably the first playmaker against whom England played but he would probably not have recognised the description. Certainly by the time Nandor Hidegkuti destroyed England at Wembley in 1953 the deep-lying centre-forward was a common ploy: England had been just as befuddled by Alfred Bickel against Switzerland in 1947. Even in that Hungary side, though, it would be difficult to say whether the true playmaker was Hidegkuti or the inside-left, Ferenc Puskas.

After the success of Brazil with 4-2-4 in 1958, other nations took up the formation and tinkered with the distribution of the front six. By the time Argentina got to the 1966 World Cup, they were operating with Antonio Rattín as a deep-lying anchor, Luis Artime as a centre-forward, Oscar Más as a forward on the left-wing, Alberto Gonzalez and Jorge Solari as shuttling midfielders, and Ermindo Onega as a playmaker. That shape, a basic 4-3-1-2, remained the template in Argentina for the next two decades.

While most – including Brazil and England – found an extra midfielder from the 4-2-4 by withdrawing a winger, in the Netherlands, West Germany and the USSR it was more common to withdraw a centre-forward, leaving two wingers in a symmetrical 4-3-3. For those sides, the key was flexibility, and if there was a playmaker he tended to be the libero – although Johan Cruyff, almost by force of personality, is an obvious exception. The midfield three, though, was flexible enough to incorporate a playmaker, and when West Germany beat England 3-1 at Wembley in 1972, Günter Netzer was obviously operating as such. The liberi – Franz Beckenbauer in particular – were probably the first of the deep-lying playmakers, who by the 1980s were emerging in midfield. In 1982, Brazil had Falcao and Cerezo as deep-lying playmakers with Zico and Socrates as playmakers in the more advanced role.

The Bilardo protocol

What really confused the issue, though, was the tactical switch made by the Argentina manager Carlos Bilardo during the 1986 World Cup. It was not so much the shift to a back three – for playmakers it makes little difference whether the seven players behind him are arrayed as a 3-4 or a 4-3 – as the decision to play Diego Maradona as a second striker in the quarter-final against England.

Bilardo admits he made the move purely for practical reasons because he did not believe the centre-forward Pedro Pasculli, who had scored the winner in the second round against Uruguay, could cope against physical English defending. The switch, though, proved probably the most significant tactical change of the decade. Once a playmaker had been used as a second striker, the roles bled into each other. Was Dennis Bergkamp a playmaker or a second striker? Roberto Baggio? Gianfranco Zola?

They were neither and both, and that ambiguity has been formalised by the spread of 4-2-3-1. One of the system's many advantages is that it allows for a deep-lying playmaker – a Xabi Alonso figure – to operate as one of the holding two, so a team can have two creative hubs while retaining a solid defensive structure. It is intriguing too that the emergence of 4-2-1-3 seems to hint at the playmaker/second striker hybrid once again becoming something akin to the playmakers of the 1980s, but operating behind a front three rather than a front two. In that the playmaker is returning to his origins: Scarone, James and Pele, at least in 1958, were similarly creating the play for a central striker and two wingers.

None of this truly defines what constitutes a playmaker: given the range of what people consider playmakers, perhaps the truth is that playmaker is not a position at all but a state of mind.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:50 am

ant london wrote: None of this truly defines what constitutes a playmaker: given the range of what people consider playmakers, perhaps the truth is that playmaker is not a position at all but a state of mind.


That's exactly it. Playmaker is someone makes players around him tick. First and foremost he can spread the ball to strikers and wingers. Someone with vision to see the whole pitch and someone who can execute what he thinks.

A player we currently lack and desperately need.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby superkev8705 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:53 am

Yep. Whenever the word 'playmaker' is mentioned i straightaway think of Fabregas.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:53 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote: None of this truly defines what constitutes a playmaker: given the range of what people consider playmakers, perhaps the truth is that playmaker is not a position at all but a state of mind.


That's exactly it. Playmaker is someone makes players around him tick. First and foremost he can spread the ball to strikers and wingers. Someone with vision to see the whole pitch and someone who can execute what he thinks.

A player we currently lack and desperately need.


Isnt Silva or Yaya the man to do this job?
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby King Kev » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:53 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote: None of this truly defines what constitutes a playmaker: given the range of what people consider playmakers, perhaps the truth is that playmaker is not a position at all but a state of mind.


That's exactly it. Playmaker is someone makes players around him tick. First and foremost he can spread the ball to strikers and wingers. Someone with vision to see the whole pitch and someone who can execute what he thinks.

A player we currently lack and desperately need.
I thought that's what we got Silva and Milner for?
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Wooders » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:02 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote: None of this truly defines what constitutes a playmaker: given the range of what people consider playmakers, perhaps the truth is that playmaker is not a position at all but a state of mind.


That's exactly it. Playmaker is someone makes players around him tick. First and foremost he can spread the ball to strikers and wingers. Someone with vision to see the whole pitch and someone who can execute what he thinks.

A player we currently lack and desperately need.


Milner?
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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:08 am

Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Mase » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:11 am

Best I've ever had the pleasure to see at a match is definitely Ali B. As Wanchope said that guy knew what his team mates were going to do before they'd even decided themselves!
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Postby Mase » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:14 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.


I'm hoping Milner will turn in to that kind of Frank Lampard type player in the future though. Fingers crossed.
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Postby Blue Blood » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:15 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.


We have Silva. We don't lack a playmaker, no sir.

Also,

Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard = probably the 3 most consistent attacking mids in the league.

Ireland = a one season wonder with a head of spagetti.

He can never put himself in the same bracket as Fab, Lamps and Gerrard imo. Not even close, its like saying Benjani is in the same bracket as Torres because he had a good season once.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Mase » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:22 am

I'd say Robson is also a playmaker. He was played on the left wing in his first season but his best position is definitely behind the front two.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby King Kev » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:23 am

MaseCTID wrote:I'd say Robson is also a playmaker. He was played on the left wing in his first season but his best position is definitely behind the front two.

Good shout! I keep forgetting about him for some reason.
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Postby mr_nool » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:30 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.

Everything we created against Spurs came from Yaya's feet. He put both SWP and Richards clean through and looked to have more vision than the rest of the team combined.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Blue Blood » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:34 am

King Kev wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:I'd say Robson is also a playmaker. He was played on the left wing in his first season but his best position is definitely behind the front two.

Good shout! I keep forgetting about him for some reason.


I whacked the old season review of the year robbie joined on the other day, i would suggest if anyone has it to watch it back because i was staggered how much robbie actually created that season. Ireland was getting all the praise but if you watch closely you can clearly see robbie was pulling all the strings for him that year.

Robinho in my opinion is an out and out playmaker not a forward, he has a rare vision 90% of players don't have. Why o why can't he screw his head back on and stay here!
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Postby Kladze » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:41 am

MaseCTID wrote:I'd say Robson is also a playmaker. He was played on the left wing in his first season but his best position is definitely behind the front two.


Funny thing that. Robinho himself claims to prefer playing on the left; he plays for Brasil on the left; played for Madrid on the left; played for Santos on the left; and played for City on the left. Yet there are those who claim his best position is centrally, behind a front two - a role he's been tried in a couple of times and failed miserably.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Mase » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:51 am

Kladze wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:I'd say Robson is also a playmaker. He was played on the left wing in his first season but his best position is definitely behind the front two.


Funny thing that. Robinho himself claims to prefer playing on the left; he plays for Brasil on the left; played for Madrid on the left; played for Santos on the left; and played for City on the left. Yet there are those who claim his best position is centrally, behind a front two - a role he's been tried in a couple of times and failed miserably.


So because someone claims they prefer to play that position that is definitely their best position?? I personally like playing center mid. However I know it's not my best position.
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Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:59 am

A playmaker's key ability is to pick the ball up and turn defence into attack, or make an attack into a chance on goal. It has been made very difficult for any player to work in this type of role because of the way we have played.

The problem we have had is that with the midfield playing so far behind the forwards, we often find that the players who can thread a ball through the eye of a needle, eg Ireland on occasion, Barry, were finding that they were having to find a pinpoint 40 yard pass to find another man - on the rare occasions the ball found a forward, he was on his own because the other forward had gone foraging so we inevitably lost the ball and put ourselves back under pressure.

This season, imo Tevez, could and should play this link role in our midfield with Balotelli or Ade being the man in the middle with two wide midfielders from Milner, Johnson & Silva joining in from out wide in the way Ljundberg used to always have that habit of arriving at the back of the box unmarked.

Beyond this, if Toure and Barry can't take charge of a midfield between them, there isnt much hope of the above happening
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:14 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.

Everything we created against Spurs came from Yaya's feet. He put both SWP and Richards clean through and looked to have more vision than the rest of the team combined.


Yes. But we were poor going forward. And that's why we lack a playmaker.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.

Everything we created against Spurs came from Yaya's feet. He put both SWP and Richards clean through and looked to have more vision than the rest of the team combined.


Yes. But we were poor going forward. And that's why we lack a playmaker.


no, we are poor going forward because we don't have the players to pass to in the right area of the pitch. Aside from De Jong, SWP and Richards were to worst possible two players to have got on the end of those passes.
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Re: The Playmaker - Long but interesting read

Postby mr_nool » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Whatever Milner is, he is NOT playmaker. Too straightforward to ever run the game as true playmaker and doesn't really have any vision. His style is straightforward running and he has excellent shot (one of the better in the league I must admit).

Toure isn't playmaker either. As a deeplying player, I don't feel he is someone who can take ball forward, powerfull runner, again has great shot but I have never noticed him having any great vision. He CAN every now and then open defences but I don't think he is someone who can regularily do it.

Premium playmakers in Premier League are Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard. Ireland two seasons back belonged to that group. That is the kind of player we lack imo.

Everything we created against Spurs came from Yaya's feet. He put both SWP and Richards clean through and looked to have more vision than the rest of the team combined.


Yes. But we were poor going forward. And that's why we lack a playmaker.

or perhaps we were poor going forward because we played with two playmakers (sillva and tevez) and no out and out striker (or even three playmakers if you count yaya as a deep playmaker mentioned in the article). just a thought.
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