Nedum

[BlueinBosnia]

Good news for him. Is it for the season, or until Jan, when the new squad lists come out? I can see a lot of loans of players just outside the 25 being for half the season, or at least with an option to recall, due to this new system, at most Prem clubs.

Onuoha will join the Black Cats on an initial loan deal until the end of the season, with a view to a permanent move.

Sunderland have agreed a loan deal for Manchester City's Nedum Onuoha, skysports.com understands.

[Beefymcfc]

I have never really rated Ned like some fans do....he has never excelled and has been found out many times imo.

Financially it makes no difference to City wether we loan him out or sell him..neither here or there is it.

I remember getting hammered on here a few seasons back when I suggested we sell him. He's a decent defender, probably better defensively than richards and should never be played at RB but he looks soooo awkward on the ball, whenever he passes the ball it looks like its taking him so much effort just to get it to a team mate.

He is one of the worst passers of the ball I have ever fucking seen.

Bollox Carl, did you not see that pass to himself last season ;-)

Not as funny as that pass by the new rag clunt Hernandez or chcihychyehcyechya or whatever he calls himself when he "scored" against chelski in the charity shield

Is that the one that was going over the bar and now he is the best thing since Stella?

[Dubciteh]

Great move, i think we should do similar with all our fringe players who have potential to be brilliant(but not playing now) under different managers im thinkin ireland etc, rather than sell, mancini gets shown the door and we regret it, this way if mancini doesnt work out and these lads have great season at new club were on a winner. If they do fuck all we sell them next year no prob, we will only get peanuts compared to there true value regardless!

[shawzy]

Looks like anyone who spits his dummy in public gets shipped out of the club..Ala Petrov,Elano, Robhino,Ned,Bellers.

[Beefymcfc]

Looks like anyone who spits his dummy in public gets shipped out of the club..Ala Petrov,Elano, Robhino,Ned,Bellers.

We now know (according to Bellers) that the manager doesn't talk to them anyway, so only one other option really.

[bluechester]

I have never really rated Ned like some fans do....he has never excelled and has been found out many times imo.

Financially it makes no difference to City wether we loan him out or sell him..neither here or there is it.

I remember getting hammered on here a few seasons back when I suggested we sell him. He's a decent defender, probably better defensively than richards and should never be played at RB but he looks soooo awkward on the ball, whenever he passes the ball it looks like its taking him so much effort just to get it to a team mate.

He is one of the worst passers of the ball I have ever fucking seen.

Bollox Carl, did you not see that pass to himself last season ;-)

ha ha that was one of his famous mis controlls, then clean through for a goal, piss funny that

[BlueinBosnia]

Good news for him. Is it for the season, or until Jan, when the new squad lists come out? I can see a lot of loans of players just outside the 25 being for half the season, or at least with an option to recall, due to this new system, at most Prem clubs.

Onuoha will join the Black Cats on an initial loan deal until the end of the season, with a view to a permanent move.

Sunderland have agreed a loan deal for Manchester City's Nedum Onuoha, skysports.com understands.

Why ask the question then? if Sky Sports dont know what makes you think anybody on here will?

In all honesty, I was writing at the same time as you, and hadn't seen what you'd posted.

Think it could potentially bite us on the bum, this. Two serious injuries over Christmas period to defenders, and we may need to emergency buy/pay a mental loan fee to get one of Bobby's mates in from Italy.

[Beefymcfc]

Good news for him. Is it for the season, or until Jan, when the new squad lists come out? I can see a lot of loans of players just outside the 25 being for half the season, or at least with an option to recall, due to this new system, at most Prem clubs.

Onuoha will join the Black Cats on an initial loan deal until the end of the season, with a view to a permanent move.

Sunderland have agreed a loan deal for Manchester City's Nedum Onuoha, skysports.com understands.

Why ask the question then? if Sky Sports dont know what makes you think anybody on here will?

In all honesty, I was writing at the same time as you, and hadn't seen what you'd posted.

Think it could potentially bite us on the bum, this. Two serious injuries over Christmas period to defenders, and we may need to emergency buy/pay a mental loan fee to get one of Bobby's mates in from Italy.

I know. Wonder what Maicon will be doing in the new year?

[brite blu sky]

Great move for all. He needs a full season under his belt, he's NEVER been fit for a full season.

38 games under his belt and I honestly think he could be pushing for an England place.

He just needs experience and a regular playing partner

Well said.

Nedum has the potential to be a very good center half. Hopefully he'll have a Joe Hart esque season and be back ready to compete next season. He needs regular games.

this twice

[ross.mcfc]

Great move for all concerned. Like most I am convinced that if Ned played 38 games a season he would be one of the best defenders in the country. But he will never be fit enough to demand a regular game at City. Send him out on loan and if he doesn’t stand out like a sore thumb in that Sunderland side then we sell him knowing that is 100% the right decision.

I just think selling him now would come back to haunt us.

[french_tony]

I think its a good move, the guy will play for England (and possibly be captain one day) but he won't get much of a look in this season behind Boateng, Vinny, Richards, Lescott and Toure. I am just a bit concerned about the "view to a permanent move clause." Hope that parts Sky bullshit.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm baffled as to why we rejected £6m for him from Sunderland yet give him to them free for a year??

You won't get a better offer of £6m for him, we should of cashed in when we could.

Good luck to him though. Sunderland is about his level.

Maybe the manager sees him as a good prospect and wants to see how he does with a good run of games which he will get at sunderland

it was with view for permanent transfer ie agreed transfer fee included to contract. Worst possible deal if true. If he does well, which I think he will, well lose him for peanuts. If he doesn't we are back with him, only that he is damaged goods and can't ship him off for love or money.

[mcfc1632]

".....Not as funny as that pass by the new rag clunt Hernandez or chcihychyehcyechya or whatever he calls himself when he "scored" against chelski in the charity shield"


Yeah - and why is that cunt allowed to have his middle / nickname or whatever on his shirt? re Ned - I hope the move allows him to 'do a Joe Hart' - work hard and improve Ned - that is what players should do - work to get into the team on merit rather than whinge

[craigmcfc]

Great move for all. He needs a full season under his belt, he's NEVER been fit for a full season.

38 games under his belt and I honestly think he could be pushing for an England place.

He just needs experience and a regular playing partner

Well said.

Nedum has the potential to be a very good center half. Hopefully he'll have a Joe Hart esque season and be back ready to compete next season. He needs regular games.

I hope this is what's going to happen but I fear we won't see him in City colours again

[john@staustell]

I'm baffled as to why we rejected £6m for him from Sunderland yet give him to them free for a year??

You won't get a better offer of £6m for him, we should of cashed in when we could.

Good luck to him though. Sunderland is about his level.

Maybe the manager sees him as a good prospect and wants to see how he does with a good run of games which he will get at sunderland

Isn't all this loan business to do with amortization?

Players like Ned and Jo (and others) have a book value, which decreases year on year as their contract runs down. Therefore whilst Sunderland's offer for Ned - and Real Sociedad's for Jo - may not be acceptable now, it will be in 12 months, when the financial value of the player on our books has decreased. Same situation with Robinho. They cant be sold until the price reflects their book value, more or less.

in the meantime we get in a loan fee hopefully and save on wages. The player proves himself and the sale is completed.

I'm sure it's all economics rather than altruism toward players!

[Socrates]

I'm baffled as to why we rejected £6m for him from Sunderland yet give him to them free for a year??

You won't get a better offer of £6m for him, we should of cashed in when we could.

Good luck to him though. Sunderland is about his level.

Maybe the manager sees him as a good prospect and wants to see how he does with a good run of games which he will get at sunderland

Isn't all this loan business to do with amortization?

Players like Ned and Jo (and others) have a book value, which decreases year on year as their contract runs down. Therefore whilst Sunderland's offer for Ned - and Real Sociedad's for Jo - may not be acceptable now, it will be in 12 months, when the financial value of the player on our books has decreased. Same situation with Robinho. They cant be sold until the price reflects their book value, more or less.

in the meantime we get in a loan fee hopefully and save on wages. The player proves himself and the sale is completed.

I'm sure it's all economics rather than altruism toward players!

Certainly nothing to do with amortisation with Ned. He has no book value as there is no transfer fee to amortise. We will certainly get a loan fee though and can have a look at his progress over the next year to see if he develops with more regular football.

[Ted Hughes]

I'm baffled as to why we rejected £6m for him from Sunderland yet give him to them free for a year??

You won't get a better offer of £6m for him, we should of cashed in when we could.

Good luck to him though. Sunderland is about his level.

Maybe the manager sees him as a good prospect and wants to see how he does with a good run of games which he will get at sunderland

Isn't all this loan business to do with amortization?

Players like Ned and Jo (and others) have a book value, which decreases year on year as their contract runs down. Therefore whilst Sunderland's offer for Ned - and Real Sociedad's for Jo - may not be acceptable now, it will be in 12 months, when the financial value of the player on our books has decreased. Same situation with Robinho. They cant be sold until the price reflects their book value, more or less.

in the meantime we get in a loan fee hopefully and save on wages. The player proves himself and the sale is completed.

I'm sure it's all economics rather than altruism toward players!

Certainly nothing to do with amortisation with Ned. He has no book value as there is no transfer fee to amortise. We will certainly get a loan fee though and can have a look at his progress over the next year to see if he develops with more regular football.

That's right, hopefully the 'view to a permanent deal' bit just means we can't bump up the fee or sell him to someone else if he's brilliant but we still we get to see if he can perform at a quality level (& stay fit!) for a season & then make our decision.

Bruce is many nasty things but he's also an ex CB & knows about defending so let's see if he can turn Ned into the finished article & then, if he does, we can bring him back!

[trueblue64]

Official..................
http://www.safc.com/news/20100811/bruce ... 13_2118966?

[walmai]

Going to Sunderland on loan according to sky

Defenders' Graveyard!

Poor sod.

[lets all have a disco]

Looks like anyone who spits his dummy in public gets shipped out of the club..Ala Petrov,Elano, Robhino,Ned,Bellers.

We now know (according to Bellers) that the manager doesn't talk to them anyway, so only one other option really.

Bacon has done it for many a year and it hasnt served him badly.

You know eh,just a thought.


As it goes for Chiefy,good luck lad up at the freezing wasteland i hope he stays fit but i have my doubts.