john@staustell wrote:You're probably right Simon, but then in today's high powered game, I'm not sure you can fit all these types on the field. Pretty certain the classic 'foxes' Gary Linneker and Gerd Muller wouldn't get hired these days (unfortunately)!
simon12 wrote:john@staustell wrote:You're probably right Simon, but then in today's high powered game, I'm not sure you can fit all these types on the field. Pretty certain the classic 'foxes' Gary Linneker and Gerd Muller wouldn't get hired these days (unfortunately)!
As regards playmaker is that something Silva could do with AJ on left Milner on right?...just a thought. TBH thank fuck it`s Mancios job and not mine.
Grob wrote:Tevez not a world class forward??
I thought what we lacked was that bit of know how, and i also felt some of the tactics were curious/strange to be polite. In terms of players, we lacked a Toure type the most. Now we have one, im expecting improvements.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Grob wrote:Tevez not a world class forward??
I thought what we lacked was that bit of know how, and i also felt some of the tactics were curious/strange to be polite. In terms of players, we lacked a Toure type the most. Now we have one, im expecting improvements.
???
What's Tevez got to do with this? I was talking about out and out centerforward.
Personally I thought we needed Yaya type as replacement for De Jong to offer us something once the ball is won. It's playmaker who dominates central area on attacking third that we were really lacking imo. Signing Toure didn't change that at all.
Dev: you would like Pearce back wouldn't you?
Whoever told me to calm down, I'm perfectly calm. I'm only wondering about the signings and what the plan will be. I saw weaknessess in completely different areas. Then again, Mancini is manager with winning pedigree and I'm not. I'm still going to wonder though until the season kicks off and I'll see what the plan really was.
TheGOAT wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Grob wrote:Tevez not a world class forward??
I thought what we lacked was that bit of know how, and i also felt some of the tactics were curious/strange to be polite. In terms of players, we lacked a Toure type the most. Now we have one, im expecting improvements.
???
What's Tevez got to do with this? I was talking about out and out centerforward.
Personally I thought we needed Yaya type as replacement for De Jong to offer us something once the ball is won. It's playmaker who dominates central area on attacking third that we were really lacking imo. Signing Toure didn't change that at all.
Dev: you would like Pearce back wouldn't you?
Whoever told me to calm down, I'm perfectly calm. I'm only wondering about the signings and what the plan will be. I saw weaknessess in completely different areas. Then again, Mancini is manager with winning pedigree and I'm not. I'm still going to wonder though until the season kicks off and I'll see what the plan really was.
Explain why we need to replace De Jong?
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:In the end of the season I said that I thought we were lacking a top quality centerback, playmaker and centerforward. I thought leftback would've been nice bonus. What we got was junior rightback, leftback, defensive midfielder and a left winger. And we are still after midfield utility man.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not disappointed as such but I'm slightly curious what the plan is. Are we aiming for some complex formations where players constantly switch places? Because all the players signed seem very versatile. I'm also wondering how the central area of attacking third will work out. That has been our weakness eversince Ireland lost form and we haven't really done anything to strengthen that area. What is the plan with central defence? Toure for me isn't good enough for top four so that leaves us with Kompany and Lescott as only good enough central defenders. That area for me is way too weak and could be our downfall. I still hope we are going for Luiz who seems like capable enough.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:TheGOAT wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Grob wrote:Tevez not a world class forward??
I thought what we lacked was that bit of know how, and i also felt some of the tactics were curious/strange to be polite. In terms of players, we lacked a Toure type the most. Now we have one, im expecting improvements.
???
What's Tevez got to do with this? I was talking about out and out centerforward.
Personally I thought we needed Yaya type as replacement for De Jong to offer us something once the ball is won. It's playmaker who dominates central area on attacking third that we were really lacking imo. Signing Toure didn't change that at all.
Dev: you would like Pearce back wouldn't you?
Whoever told me to calm down, I'm perfectly calm. I'm only wondering about the signings and what the plan will be. I saw weaknessess in completely different areas. Then again, Mancini is manager with winning pedigree and I'm not. I'm still going to wonder though until the season kicks off and I'll see what the plan really was.
Explain why we need to replace De Jong?
he wins the ball but can't do anything with it. At best of times he slows the possible counter attack down and nothing comes of it. At worst he gives the ball immediately away.
Winning the ball is little comfort if you can't turn the posession into anything useful.
fangsanalsatan wrote:You have to get rid of that old fashioned thinking in boxes thing. Playmaker, left winger, yadda yadda.
Look at this and tell me Silva can't be the central creative threat to feed the frontline:
And what's complex about players switching positions? IIMO a strict formation is only needed in defence, when going forward the less restriction the better, assuming the players are intelligent enough. People whinging about left wingers played on the right or such get on my tits.
brite blu sky wrote:fangsanalsatan wrote:You have to get rid of that old fashioned thinking in boxes thing. Playmaker, left winger, yadda yadda.
Look at this and tell me Silva can't be the central creative threat to feed the frontline:
And what's complex about players switching positions? IIMO a strict formation is only needed in defence, when going forward the less restriction the better, assuming the players are intelligent enough. People whinging about left wingers played on the right or such get on my tits.
i would suggest that Silva would also be potentially a great partnership for Ireland to show his ability once more. I would think that the two of them could rip teams apart and i hope they get the chance to try and do that.
mr_nool wrote:i didn't really see it that way, Dazby. Yes, he played a bit more forward passes than he does for us, but of the tow holding midfielders in the Dutch team, van Bommel was by far the more creative one.
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