Hughes/Platt Double Standards?

[King Kev]

Those of us who didn't like hughes from the start got a pretty hard time form certain people on here. Whether we disliked him because he is a mune or because we just didn't think he was up to the job we were met with, almost universal, calls to 'get behind him' and 'give him time' etc etc etc

Now that platt has joined our club it seems that pretty much everybody is against the idea (and quite rightly so imo).

So, I was just wondering if those who called for us to get behind hughes but are now saying they disagree with the signing of platt could explain the difference please?

Are you guilty of double standards or is there a glaring difference between the 2 that I have missed?

Thanks

[mcfc1632]

I will have a go at answering this:

For me there are only a few ex scum players that fit into the category of - could never have anything to do with CITY because they are the personification of all things that we hate about that aggrogant club - Keane - Neville sisters etc...

Hughes did not fall into that group - and certainly Platt does not...

I think people are getting confused about Platt - it is not just because he was a scum player - it is 90% down to the way he has spoken and acted with utter contempt about all things CITY - especially since the Sheik arrived - he drips disdain and contempt towards us - and now he wants on-board the gravy train - a very bad decision by CITY who pride themselves on being in-tune with the views of fans

[Buffalo Soldier]

For starters, there's a world of difference getting behind the manager and getting behind a member of the coaching staff.

Also, Hughes had been building a reputation as one of the best young coaches in the country and had done a decent enough job at Blackburn/Wales and despite his rag past, he didn't have a recent history of slagging us off in the media week after week.

Platt destroyed Nottingham Forest and almost destroyed SWP, did a shit job at Sampdoria and failed to get a talented group of Under 21's to qualify for the 2004 tournament and was regularly seen slating the club at every given opportunity in the last few years. Also he's a fish eyed, smug twat.

I know that it's always fun for you to try and stick the knife into Hughes at every possible turn, but the two don't compare KK.

[Chinners]

I will have a go at answering this:

For me there are only a few ex scum players that fit into the category of - could never have anything to do with CITY because they are the personification of all things that we hate about that aggrogant club - Keane - Neville sisters etc...

Hughes did not fall into that group - and certainly Platt does not...

I think people are getting confused about Platt - it is not just because he was a scum player - it is 90% down to the way he has spoken and acted with utter contempt about all things CITY - especially since the Sheik arrived - he drips disdain and contempt towards us - and now he wants on-board the gravy train - a very bad decision by CITY who pride themselves on being in-tune with the views of fans

Good reply! As far as being a Rag, I think Platt had less playing time there than Shaun Goater so thats a non starter for me.. As mcfc1632 saiys it's his continued digs at City that pish me off ... and he's probably going to be as good a coach as he was a manager/pundit. I certainly didn't want Hughes in the first place but I did like the way he spoke about, and continues to speak about, our club.

[BobKowalski]

I will have a go at answering this:

For me there are only a few ex scum players that fit into the category of - could never have anything to do with CITY because they are the personification of all things that we hate about that aggrogant club - Keane - Neville sisters etc...

Hughes did not fall into that group - and certainly Platt does not...

I think people are getting confused about Platt - it is not just because he was a scum player - it is 90% down to the way he has spoken and acted with utter contempt about all things CITY - especially since the Sheik arrived - he drips disdain and contempt towards us - and now he wants on-board the gravy train - a very bad decision by CITY who pride themselves on being in-tune with the views of fans

This pretty much seems to be it.

Personally I am not that fussed who the backroom staff are as long as they are competent. I don't know if Platt is competent as a coach just as I don't know if any of the other coaches are competent but Mancini seems to think they are and since he has to live or die by these decisions then fair enough. Its his arse on the line not mine. Platt has a crap record as manager but then so does Kidd and as we are not employing Platt as manager or even it seems assistant manager I don't see the relevance.

I think I have seen/heard Platt 2 or 3 times in the media and clearly I wasn't paying attention (not unusual when it comes to pundits) but if some of the direct quotes attributed to Platt are true I can see peoples objections; especially the hypocrisy at taking the Sheikh's dollar after criticising players for doing the same. Saying that the sheer venom on here and elsewhere including hoping that we have a crap start so that Platt gets the blame and is sacked (yeah thats how it works) or that this has taken the shine off the Silva signing is borderline crazy talk. I mean really? People are so pissed over the signing of a fucking coach that it ruins the signing one of Europe's young talents? Bizarre.

[Chinners]

People are so pissed over the signing of a fucking coach that it ruins the signing one of Europe's young talents? Bizarre.

In a word, yes. I thought we had ditched this one step forward two steps back m'larky

[blue wine]

i'm still fucking fuming about platt beeing at my club!! I just don't understand it..every fucking time were on the right path some thing or some fucks it up!!! :(

can someone pleeeeease do a POLL? a simple yes or no. just want to see how many think its a good idea

[BobKowalski]

People are so pissed over the signing of a fucking coach that it ruins the signing one of Europe's young talents? Bizarre.

In a word, yes. I thought we had ditched this one step forward two steps back m'larky

You've lost me on this one. As have 99% of people on here I guess. Oh well :)

But if we do a poll over the appointment of a coach - well for once I would be genuinely stunned

[Wooders]

The answers that have been given are reasonable ones though - hughes was a decent young manager who never condemned city and platt seems to have made a bit of a career out of it

Anyway, is it really gonna affect any of us?

[ant london]

KK I thought you and others were idiots for the anti-Hughes campaigning

I think the same of all the anti-Platt nonsense

Personally I don't think he's done anything much to merit a position here, nothing on his CV to date indicates top level coaching ability.

However, if anyone deserves a slagging over this, it's Roberto Mancini for bringing "one of his mates in". That said, I don't intend to do so. I will do what I did with Hughes, give him and his staff time to get it right.

The usual suspects will no doubt focus the same negative energy on Platt as they did Hughes. Idiotic

[btajim]

Those of us who didn't like hughes from the start got a pretty hard time form certain people on here. Whether we disliked him because he is a mune or because we just didn't think he was up to the job we were met with, almost universal, calls to 'get behind him' and 'give him time' etc etc etc

You're such a victim, Lee. The Hughes Out Brigade ruled this Forum during the darkest spells with threats, name calling and general 10 on 1 abuse against anyone who dared defend our Manager. I also hear it was the Hughes In Brigade throwing the punches at West Brom. i.e. "You bad mouth our Manager and I'll beat you up."

It was you and yet another of your alcohol fuelled speeches that told everybody to get behind Mancini despite your continued petulance throughout the Hughes reign. That's double standards. I note you've since never directly communicated with me following my challenge to your view.

The crucial difference that you have missed is that Hughes is never recorded to have said anything unpleasant about City in recent years whilst David Platt has.

[Vhero]

Massive difference here Hughes never constantly slagged off our club and showed his hatred for us before coming to us Platt did.

[btajim]

I'm laughing at this whole thing, now. My view of Manchester City has changed. I'm still Blue - but I'm seeing other people and their motives in a completely different light.

[avoidconfusion]

Massive difference here Hughes never constantly slagged off our club and showed his hatred for us before coming to us Platt did.

This.

Platt in 2009 on SSN:

"They only signed for City for the gravy train"

OH THE IRONY!

[Exiled]

Sounds like he'll be as popular as Sam Ellis was.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I will have a go at answering this:

For me there are only a few ex scum players that fit into the category of - could never have anything to do with CITY because they are the personification of all things that we hate about that aggrogant club - Keane - Neville sisters etc...

Hughes did not fall into that group - and certainly Platt does not...

I think people are getting confused about Platt - it is not just because he was a scum player - it is 90% down to the way he has spoken and acted with utter contempt about all things CITY - especially since the Sheik arrived - he drips disdain and contempt towards us - and now he wants on-board the gravy train - a very bad decision by CITY who pride themselves on being in-tune with the views of fans

Good reply! As far as being a Rag, I think Platt had less playing time there than Shaun Goater so thats a non starter for me.. As mcfc1632 saiys it's his continued digs at City that pish me off ... and he's probably going to be as good a coach as he was a manager/pundit. I certainly didn't want Hughes in the first place but I did like the way he spoke about, and continues to speak about, our club.

I'm pretty sure reading interview with him years ago and he said himself that he is born and bred rag supporter. Used to have big banter with Lee Dixon. So VERY VERY different thing to just playing for them.

Had to do bit of googling to back my claim as well. Sorry about the source but it's the first post.

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/footba ... -club.html


Regarding original subject of the topic

Category A: All rag supporters (including Platt, Beckscum), k***e, Neville, Baconface =Fucking uberevils..... none of these should be let anywhere near City unless we have sniper aiming at them

Category B: Hughes, fake-Ronaldo, Steve Bruce, Bryan Robson, Paul Ince, Bobby Charlton, Eric Cuntona, Andrew "Andy" Cole = Horrible little shits ..... none of these should be let anywhere near City unless we have Guv'nors waiting around the corner

Category C: All other Rags who ever played for them = None of these should be let anywhere near City

[Beeks]

David Platt slagged us off at every opportunity...that and he knows fuck all about football...the only reason I don't want him to be at our club...couldn't give a toss about his rag affiliation

[Kladze]

David Platt slagged us off at every opportunity...that and he knows fuck all about football...the only reason I don't want him to be at our club...couldn't give a toss about his rag affiliation

I second this

[john@staustell]

The obvious answers to this thread have already been given - mainly based on his continually running down City and his serial incompetence.

Normally I would back the club line, but not on this idiot.

Doesn't compare with the Hughes appointment one little bit.

[Wooders]

wasn't "jobs for the boys" a major concern for the hughes out brigade?