Goal line technology: Poll

[Manx Blue]

IMO…the top competitions in the World (Domestic & Continental Club and International) should have goal line technology.

Not only should the clubs, national teams bombard FIFA or their relevant regional association, the sponsors of these competitions should also be approached in an effort to change things

FIFA/UEFA would soon listen if there was a chance they would lose serious revenue streams.

[blues-clues]

video is not the answer - there will always be a case where there is no clear view because there are too many players in the box. Video also needs someone to look at it and therefore needs a break in play.

You need a chip (or chips) inside the balls and sensors either in fixed locations either in the ground or on the posts or crossbar. If the ball (sensor) crosses the plane either a light goes on like ice hockey or a signal goes to the referee. It is not complicated, supermarket trolleys have a chip in them that applies the brakes when they go over a line on the edge of the car park. If it can be made cheap enough for all the supermarket trolleys then it can be made to work for premier league, European and international football.

This is not the beginning of a slippery slope, goal or not is not and should not be open to interpretation in the same way as a foul, handball or offside. There is so much technology in football now, the players wear all sorts of gizmos to tell us how far they ran and where they were at certain times, its not asking much to take one small step further and put something in the ball to help make the decision making process better and faster.

If they choose to use ball tracking technology in conjunction with player tracking to resolve offside decisions in real time then that is cool as well but let's get the simple stuff sorted first.

[Slim]

Seriously, technology is gonna cost money, have at least two generations that won't work properly,(Think tennis) and completely unnecessary. Goal line assistants, two men, only job....did the fucking ball cross the line.

[dazby]

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What we need is one of these "lasers".

[Twobob]

Big Huge NO from me.

Taking the small game on Sunday as an example - 30 secconds after it bouncing over the line and out again it was in Englands half and Germany nearly had a chance - NO natural break in play at all.

So lets say we had this video ref, by the time he'd reviewed it and communicated that it was a goal to the Ref, Germany could have scored - how would they work that one out? Disallow a goal to give a goal earlier? When does it stop? When Taggert starts crying why such and such is available to be decided by technology but not a descision thats just gone against him??

Now if I remember correctly, UEFA trialed having two extra officials stood behined the goals to spot any infringments etc done in the box and goals - this is a much better idea IMHO as they can flag up to the ref straight away as a linesman 'SHOULD'.

[Blue Blood]

100% Yes.

Get it in and stop the cheaters and whingers.

[Tokyo Blue]

IMO what is ruining the game is these blatently BENT referees / fifa officials.
The game is so blatently bent it isn't even funny.
We need robot referees to stop this crookedness.
We'll never have anything easy to sort it out as there is no way for them to bend the rules to suit them.

All they need to do for goal line tech is what they have in ice hockey to see if the puck crossed the line.
Simple as fuck.

For me this is spot on in all respects.

And those saying it would take too long, have a read of this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10435958.stm

[Tokyo Blue]

Fine, but then why waste all that money training, evaluating, paying and flying refs around the world. If human error is a required part of the game then there's no problem with poor match officials.

If you welcome dodgy decisions that eliminate the aspect of contest from football then you're giving up the right to ever complain about a referee's decision. That's a different thing from accepting that referees aren't perfect, it's saying that a perfect referee would be to the detriment of the game.

No it's not.

And either way, a perfect mechanical referee - which is what technology would supply - would be detrimental.

Why?

[Moonchesteri]

All they need to do for goal line tech is what they have in ice hockey to see if the puck crossed the line.
Simple as fuck.

Do you know why 2003 is remembered as probably the most boring over-time World Cup win ever? Video technology and these goal line cameras.
Canadians forward Carter went round the goal, tried to slide it in, thought he did. Celebrated for a couple of seconds until he saw that ref is going to check was it in. Long before the decision was made after 15-20 Minutes fans at home were channel surfing, fans at the stadium looked bored talking with friends.. result was that Canada got the goal but boy it was a boring climax to a WC final.

[Moonchesteri]

All they need to do for goal line tech is what they have in ice hockey to see if the puck crossed the line.
Simple as fuck.

Do you know why 2003 is remembered as probably the most boring over-time World Cup win ever? Video technology and these goal line cameras.
Canadians forward Carter went round the goal, tried to slide it in, thought he did. Celebrated for a couple of seconds until he saw that ref is going to check was it in. Long before the decision was made after 15-20 Minutes fans at home were channel surfing, fans at the stadium looked bored talking with friends.. result was that Canada got the goal but boy it was a boring climax to a WC final.

[Twobob]

IMO what is ruining the game is these blatently BENT referees / fifa officials.
The game is so blatently bent it isn't even funny.
We need robot referees to stop this crookedness.
We'll never have anything easy to sort it out as there is no way for them to bend the rules to suit them.

All they need to do for goal line tech is what they have in ice hockey to see if the puck crossed the line.
Simple as fuck.

For me this is spot on in all respects.

And those saying it would take too long, have a read of this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10435958.stm

Shocking, the manufacturers of GLT are saying FIFA should adopt the technology now and that its 100% perfect ... ground breaking news.

[zuricity]

I'm absolutely for goal line technology.

Waiting for a response , is no worse than watching a goalkeeper deliberately waste time, or a throw in get passed between one or two players , or somebody going down with a pretend injury. Or getting the ball back from the Stands.

Whilst we are at it. FIFA should do things like introduce new footballs etc at the very tournament beginning and not just before the finals. Not just change things right before the finals. ( i know some teams did get the footballs earlier to get used to them).

By the way the great curving shot, that might just be plain luck from an outfield player , is the nasty curving shot for a goalie who is made to look stupid by the qualities of the ball and not necessarily the player. It makes the outfield player look good and the goalie look bad.

If FIFA get Adidas to put so much effort into developing the perfect ball, why can't FIFA develop the perfect Referee ? ( ie video technology where appropriate). There is simply too much money involved for such bad decisions as we saw in both games yesterday

As far as corruption in FIFA is concerned, even just today in the Zürich NZZ there is an article about Corrupt dealings in SA and the conclusion that this chapter (Corruption) of the World Cup 2010, is most certainly not completed yet.

[zuricity]

I'm absolutely for goal line technology.

Waiting for a response , is no worse than watching a goalkeeper deliberately waste time, or a throw in get passed between one or two players , or somebody going down with a pretend injury. Or getting the ball back from the Stands.

Whilst we are at it. FIFA should do things like introduce new footballs etc at the very tournament beginning and not just before the finals. Not just change things right before the finals. ( i know some teams did get the footballs earlier to get used to them).

By the way the great curving shot, that might just be plain luck from an outfield player , is the nasty curving shot for a goalie who is made to look stupid by the qualities of the ball and not necessarily the player. It makes the outfield player look good and the goalie look bad.

If FIFA get Adidas to put so much effort into developing the perfect ball, why can't FIFA develop the perfect Referee ? ( ie video technology where appropriate). There is simply too much money involved for such bad decisions as we saw in both games yesterday
As far as corruption in FIFA is concerned, even just today in the Zürich NZZ there is an article about Corrupt dealings in SA and the conclusion that this chapter (Corruption) of the World Cup 2010, is most certainly not completed yet.

[zuricity]

I'm absolutely for goal line technology.

Waiting for a response , is no worse than watching a goalkeeper deliberately waste time, or a throw in get passed between one or two players, or somebody going down with a pretend injury. Or getting the ball back from the Stands

Whilst we are at it. FIFA should do things like introduce new footballs etc at the very tournament beginning and not just before the finals. Not just change things right before the finals. ( i know some teams did get the footballs earlier to get used to them).

By the way the great curving shot, that might just be plain luck from an outfield player , is the nasty curving shot for a goalie who is made to look stupid by the qualities of the ball and not necessarily the player. It makes the outfield player look good and the goalie look bad.

If FIFA get Adidas to put so much effort into developing the perfect ball, why can't FIFA develop the perfect Referee ? ( ie video technology where appropriate). There is simply too much money involved for such bad decisions as we saw in both games yesterday
As far as corruption in FIFA is concerned, even just today in the Zürich NZZ there is an article about Corrupt dealings in SA and the conclusion that this chapter (Corruption) of the World Cup 2010, is most certainly not completed yet.

[zuricity]

I'm absolutely for goal line technology.

Waiting for a response , is no worse than watching a goalkeeper deliberately waste time, or a throw in get passed between one or two players, or somebody going down with a pretend injury. Or getting the ball back from the Stands

Whilst we are at it. FIFA should do things like introduce new footballs etc at the very tournament beginning and not just before the finals. Not just change things right before the finals. ( i know some teams did get the footballs earlier to get used to them).

By the way the great curving shot, that might just be plain luck from an outfield player , is the nasty curving shot for a goalie who is made to look stupid by the qualities of the ball and not necessarily the player. It makes the outfield player look good and the goalie look bad.

If FIFA get Adidas to put so much effort into developing the perfect ball, why can't FIFA develop the perfect Referee ? ( ie video technology where appropriate). There is simply too much money involved for such bad decisions as we saw in both games yesterday
As far as corruption in FIFA is concerned, even just today in the Zürich NZZ there is an article about Corrupt dealings in SA and the conclusion that this chapter (Corruption) of the World Cup 2010, is most certainly not completed yet.

[irblinx]

That's all very well Zuric, but where do you stand on goal line technology?

[zuricity]

Sorry about that fellas,

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[zuricity]

Sorry about that fellas,

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[zuricity]

Once again sorry fellas, it seems like Firefox got it's knickers in a twist.

[blues-clues]

Once again sorry fellas, it seems like Firefox got it's knickers in a twist.

Had the same problem myself.

You can delete your own posts though. Only the duplicates mind you ;)