Ted Hughes wrote:You can tell that some players have talent but on the whole no one has impressed me in particular (apart from David Villa & Forlan in flashes) & no team has impressed me . Some have had good games against mediocre or poor opposition but even players who I know to be top quality have performed at a lower level on the whole than they do for their club sides imo. Most of the European based players look borderline knackered to me.
Hopefully they'll all raise their games now it's become a knockout competition but so far, I recon the theme of this World Cup is defensive mistakes & mediocrity. Load of shite. Much prefer watching City & think we would beat most of them.
Edit: Forgot to mention Lucio, It's like they just run through Brazil's defence until he stops them, literally every time someone gets through wherever it happens, it's Lucio who makes the key challenge.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:You can tell that some players have talent but on the whole no one has impressed me in particular (apart from David Villa & Forlan in flashes) & no team has impressed me . Some have had good games against mediocre or poor opposition but even players who I know to be top quality have performed at a lower level on the whole than they do for their club sides imo. Most of the European based players look borderline knackered to me.
Hopefully they'll all raise their games now it's become a knockout competition but so far, I recon the theme of this World Cup is defensive mistakes & mediocrity. Load of shite. Much prefer watching City & think we would beat most of them.
Edit: Forgot to mention Lucio, It's like they just run through Brazil's defence until he stops them, literally every time someone gets through wherever it happens, it's Lucio who makes the key challenge.
spot on.
Most of top players seen knackered and who can blame. Most of them have played in league, couple of cups and gone far in European competitions meaning they already have 50 to 60 top class games under their belts going into the tournament.
For most parts this tournament has been particularily dire to watch. They aren't supposed to tackle anymore, probably because it's not part of the 'celebration of football' to defend. So basically all the Robinho wannabes are being made to look good here whereas in proper club football they'd have no chance.
I can't quite descripe how happy I am that preseason starts soon and all these cunts with Brazil shirts and Vuvuzelas will disappear for fours again.
Rag_hater wrote:spot on.
Most of top players seen knackered and who can blame. Most of them have played in league, couple of cups and gone far in European competitions meaning they already have 50 to 60 top class games under their belts going into the tournament.
For most parts this tournament has been particularily dire to watch. They aren't supposed to tackle anymore, probably because it's not part of the 'celebration of football' to defend. So basically all the Robinho wannabes are being made to look good here whereas in proper club football they'd have no chance.
I can't quite descripe how happy I am that preseason starts soon and all these cunts with Brazil shirts and Vuvuzelas will disappear for fours again.
Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
Ted Hughes wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
Yep those dirty bastards like Brazil '70, Holland '74, Argentina '78, Brazil '82 & on & on etc etc etc. That thug Zidane got himself sent off in the last final, we don't need the likes of him & Socrates Cruyff, Beckenbaur, Platini, kicking holes out of people when we've got Philipe Melo & fucking Gilberto Silva to look forward to. Who needs Zico or Pele or Jairzinho or Ronaldinho or Ronaldo or Romario when we have quality like Robinho & Elano? Of course Henry was much better this year then when he was 21 & the WC's a better place without Vieira & his overrated bunch. The Dutch Dennis Bergkamp? Do me a favour, overrated we won't miss him or Italians like Zola or any of 'em.
No you're right, best World Cup ever.
Rag_hater wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
Yep those dirty bastards like Brazil '70, Holland '74, Argentina '78, Brazil '82 & on & on etc etc etc. That thug Zidane got himself sent off in the last final, we don't need the likes of him & Socrates Cruyff, Beckenbaur, Platini, kicking holes out of people when we've got Philipe Melo & fucking Gilberto Silva to look forward to. Who needs Zico or Pele or Jairzinho or Ronaldinho or Ronaldo or Romario when we have quality like Robinho & Elano? Of course Henry was much better this year then when he was 21 & the WC's a better place without Vieira & his overrated bunch. The Dutch Dennis Bergkamp? Do me a favour, overrated we won't miss him or Italians like Zola or any of 'em.
No you're right, best World Cup ever.
Where have I said best WC ever.I wouldn't be able to give a definate answer on that as I haven't seen them all and dont see how you can.
And those players you mention may have been good in their time but they would be past it now so I would't want to watch them play now.
I want to see what is the best that is around now and if that means watching players like Messi,Tranny,Tevez etc... your pet hate Robbie and Elano who are as good as your idols in my book then thats a punishment I will take.
Stop harking back to the good ol days when there was plenty of shit.Youv'e never had it so good.
Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
So fucking what? Difference is, I don't pretend to be Tennis, Darts or Snooker expert. Yeah, I'm a proper part timer watching those sports and if I'm having a chat with a proper dedicated follower, I'm not going to act like I know everything or in fact bother them with retarded questions.
And as far as this competition so far goes, it has been probably the dullest since I was born. There are only two teams here that I see as anything like classic, Spain and Argentina. And one of those is managed by a complete nutter. And yes, I do think tackling is part of the football as much as dribbling and I don't see why they are trying to take it away from the game.
Rag_hater wrote:
Are they fuck trying to take tackling away from the game.If you want to see people flying in with studs showing,raking down peoples leg,jumping in with two feet and generally playing in a thuggish way then you better start watching a contact sport like American football because soccer isa non contact sport where skill with the ball for me is foremost and the rules of the game say so.Any fucker can slide in an make a tackle.Its not very skillful.Its why defenders are cheaper than strikers.
You must keep some bad company if all these so called football experts are doing your head in know cos for me most people who dont have an intrest in football and only pay attention to it every 4 years arnt doing my head in that much.Chill the fuck out dog.
Been dull for you but dont judge me by the same yardstick.I've loved it.
Dameerto wrote:Rag_hater wrote:
Are they fuck trying to take tackling away from the game.If you want to see people flying in with studs showing,raking down peoples leg,jumping in with two feet and generally playing in a thuggish way then you better start watching a contact sport like American football because soccer isa non contact sport where skill with the ball for me is foremost and the rules of the game say so.Any fucker can slide in an make a tackle.Its not very skillful.Its why defenders are cheaper than strikers.
You must keep some bad company if all these so called football experts are doing your head in know cos for me most people who dont have an intrest in football and only pay attention to it every 4 years arnt doing my head in that much.Chill the fuck out dog.
Been dull for you but dont judge me by the same yardstick.I've loved it.
So why do they go to the bother of listing types of contact which are illegal if as you say all contact is ruled out? Makes no sense to me.
Rag_hater wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
So fucking what? Difference is, I don't pretend to be Tennis, Darts or Snooker expert. Yeah, I'm a proper part timer watching those sports and if I'm having a chat with a proper dedicated follower, I'm not going to act like I know everything or in fact bother them with retarded questions.
And as far as this competition so far goes, it has been probably the dullest since I was born. There are only two teams here that I see as anything like classic, Spain and Argentina. And one of those is managed by a complete nutter. And yes, I do think tackling is part of the football as much as dribbling and I don't see why they are trying to take it away from the game.
Are they fuck trying to take tackling away from the game.If you want to see people flying in with studs showing,raking down peoples leg,jumping in with two feet and generally playing in a thuggish way then you better start watching a contact sport like American football because soccer isa non contact sport where skill with the ball for me is foremost and the rules of the game say so.Any fucker can slide in an make a tackle.Its not very skillful.Its why defenders are cheaper than strikers.
You must keep some bad company if all these so called football experts are doing your head in know cos for me most people who dont have an intrest in football and only pay attention to it every 4 years arnt doing my head in that much.Chill the fuck out dog.
Been dull for you but dont judge me by the same yardstick.I've loved it.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
So fucking what? Difference is, I don't pretend to be Tennis, Darts or Snooker expert. Yeah, I'm a proper part timer watching those sports and if I'm having a chat with a proper dedicated follower, I'm not going to act like I know everything or in fact bother them with retarded questions.
And as far as this competition so far goes, it has been probably the dullest since I was born. There are only two teams here that I see as anything like classic, Spain and Argentina. And one of those is managed by a complete nutter. And yes, I do think tackling is part of the football as much as dribbling and I don't see why they are trying to take it away from the game.
Are they fuck trying to take tackling away from the game.If you want to see people flying in with studs showing,raking down peoples leg,jumping in with two feet and generally playing in a thuggish way then you better start watching a contact sport like American football because soccer isa non contact sport where skill with the ball for me is foremost and the rules of the game say so.Any fucker can slide in an make a tackle.Its not very skillful.Its why defenders are cheaper than strikers.
You must keep some bad company if all these so called football experts are doing your head in know cos for me most people who dont have an intrest in football and only pay attention to it every 4 years arnt doing my head in that much.Chill the fuck out dog.
Been dull for you but dont judge me by the same yardstick.I've loved it.
I don't lnow if you are just on serious fucking wind up trying to get reaction out of me, but that's fucking dumbest thing I've ever heard. Which fucking tool said "soccer is a non-contact sport"???? Fucking Bill fucking Clinton????? Football is and has always been contact sport. Tackling and physical side of the game has always been part of the game since dawn of the fucking time. Go watch volleyfuckingball or badminton if you don't like players to be stopped doing their shit.
And what sort of argument is is that "defenders are less expensive than attackers"???? So players value on team contribution is measured on fucking money? Kompany cost us fraction of the money Robinho did, yet we were doing better without the latter cunt but would've struggled without former. And tackling is easy you say? Tells me that you've never actually played the game. Rightly timed sliding tackle is extremely hard manouver that demands lot of skill and training. Sticking the ball to row z from 30 yards out is fucking easy. I can do that no problem. Just as Robinho.
I know you are just trying to wind me up but you don't hakf come out with some shit every now and then. "Soccer is not a contact sport"..... fucking hell...
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Rag_hater wrote:I would say there are some folk on here who will watch the Wimbledon final and not gve a fuck about any other tennis throughout the the year or watch darts when the Lakeside finals are on and not give a fuck about any other darts competitions the rest of the year and snooker and many other sports.So all this bollocks that the WC drags out a load of people who only take any intrest every 4 years is somewhat hypocrritical.
And yes this is one of the best world cups.The coverage is unparralleled,the fact a poor country(comparativley) has got it,the footballers seem to me be more athletic,there have been suprise results and plenty of other stuff.Just cos people arn't kicking lumps out of each other and actually playing the game does not make it dull.
Just some dont feel adaequate till they find something to moan about-Grow up its fuckin easy to find fault.
So fucking what? Difference is, I don't pretend to be Tennis, Darts or Snooker expert. Yeah, I'm a proper part timer watching those sports and if I'm having a chat with a proper dedicated follower, I'm not going to act like I know everything or in fact bother them with retarded questions.
And as far as this competition so far goes, it has been probably the dullest since I was born. There are only two teams here that I see as anything like classic, Spain and Argentina. And one of those is managed by a complete nutter. And yes, I do think tackling is part of the football as much as dribbling and I don't see why they are trying to take it away from the game.
Are they fuck trying to take tackling away from the game.If you want to see people flying in with studs showing,raking down peoples leg,jumping in with two feet and generally playing in a thuggish way then you better start watching a contact sport like American football because soccer isa non contact sport where skill with the ball for me is foremost and the rules of the game say so.Any fucker can slide in an make a tackle.Its not very skillful.Its why defenders are cheaper than strikers.
You must keep some bad company if all these so called football experts are doing your head in know cos for me most people who dont have an intrest in football and only pay attention to it every 4 years arnt doing my head in that much.Chill the fuck out dog.
Been dull for you but dont judge me by the same yardstick.I've loved it.
I don't lnow if you are just on serious fucking wind up trying to get reaction out of me, but that's fucking dumbest thing I've ever heard. Which fucking tool said "soccer is a non-contact sport"???? Fucking Bill fucking Clinton????? Football is and has always been contact sport. Tackling and physical side of the game has always been part of the game since dawn of the fucking time. Go watch volleyfuckingball or badminton if you don't like players to be stopped doing their shit.
And what sort of argument is is that "defenders are less expensive than attackers"???? So players value on team contribution is measured on fucking money? Kompany cost us fraction of the money Robinho did, yet we were doing better without the latter cunt but would've struggled without former. And tackling is easy you say? Tells me that you've never actually played the game. Rightly timed sliding tackle is extremely hard manouver that demands lot of skill and training. Sticking the ball to row z from 30 yards out is fucking easy. I can do that no problem. Just as Robinho.
I know you are just trying to wind me up but you don't hakf come out with some shit every now and then. "Soccer is not a contact sport"..... fucking hell...
I think there are about six people who use his username & half of them are about 9 years old, one's senile & the others are R.I.G. & his mother.
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