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Re: The National Anthem

Postby ZonaZooBlu » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:31 pm

ryanmjo wrote:I don't think it's just an England problem though, a lot of the countries I've seen so far only have half the players singing.

...and wait for Spain on wednesday, none of them will even attempt to sing a word...
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Blue2 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:52 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:It doesnt help that it's a dirge anthem that has a funeral march feel about it.

Compare it to the American, French or Italian national anthems. Even I find myself singing along.

Spot, an absolutely shite national anthem that is not even ours alone, we have to share it with Ireland, Scotland & Wales. Bout time it was changed.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby SORTED » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:10 pm

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SORTED wrote:On the whole only pearly dancing southerners and upper middle class bastards sing the National Anthem. It ain't the done 'new working class' thang mate.


You're Middle Class. Evidently.

It wouldn't surprise me if half of those Players don't even know the words.


Don't be fooled by the nice house in Suburbia, the £25-£30k salary (when I'm well enough to work). I am working class through and through. Fuck all these new namby pamby classifications!
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Scorchio » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:48 pm

The French had the right idea about royalty. "Our" anthem is all about the Queen, who gives a flying fuck about her. The national anthem needs to be changed.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Lev Bronstein » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:06 pm

When you think about it, it's a funny old song. It's not about the land, its history or it's people. The subject is the monarch. When it was written, 1745, the Jacobite rebellion was in full swing, it was an anthem for the nice protestant Hanoverians. Many more legitimate claiments were passed over before the krauts were picked. What the hell the anthem has to do with you me and the here and now is beyond me.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby SORTED » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:08 pm

Scorchio wrote:The French had the right idea about royalty. "Our" anthem is all about the Queen, who gives a flying fuck about her. The national anthem needs to be changed.


Exfuckingactly.

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Re: The National Anthem

Postby john68 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:16 am

I was well impressed by the manner that both the Italians and the Paraguayans sang their national anthems, with pride and spirit.
It must be harder for them, they have to sing theirs in foreign languages.

Rooney, Gerard and Carragher should be excused...Unless they studied English as a 2nd language at school...if they ever went.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Bear60 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:24 am

Why do ENGLAND always play the British National Anthem before any sporting event , this really pisses me off and has done for years. This should be the England National Anthem maybe if it was they would sing along with it.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Lev Bronstein » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:45 am

I'm no great nationalist, but I always found Jerusalem quite stirring. A song you can realy belt out.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Slim » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:03 am

Bear60 wrote:Why do ENGLAND always play the British National Anthem before any sporting event , this really pisses me off and has done for years. This should be the England National Anthem maybe if it was they would sing along with it.


Because we have to, we love our northern and western cousins and the moment they actually qualify for something we can stop trying to include them.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Crossie » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:00 am

I think it says alot about the passion modern footballers have. They mostly think they are untouchable, that the law doesnt apply to them, most have few morals, i.e Terry, Cole, various money grabbers.

Why is it that the England Rugby team sing there throats off, and show some fucking passion for god knows what percent less wages, but the footballers, cant even mime the Anthem?

If you win 4-0, it doesnt really matter, but when you put out abit of a wet fish performance, things like this piss me off
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby SORTED » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:16 am

Crossie wrote:I think it says alot about the passion modern footballers have. They mostly think they are untouchable, that the law doesnt apply to them, most have few morals, i.e Terry, Cole, various money grabbers.

Why is it that the England Rugby team sing there throats off, and show some fucking passion for god knows what percent less wages, but the footballers, cant even mime the Anthem?

If you win 4-0, it doesnt really matter, but when you put out abit of a wet fish performance, things like this piss me off


Because it's a class thing and more often than not they're stuck up upper middle class twatocks.

Q/ How many manual workers or skilled tradesmen do you think attend last night of the proms?

A/ Probably none... for exactly the same reason as listed above.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Patrick » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:57 am

To me its not about class or nationalism and its certainly not the time to make a point - the crowd prove that

Its about a truly patriotic event - and if you take any sort of pride in wearing the England shirt in front of the world you should sing your spoilt little heart out
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Chinners » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:06 am

What the frenchie said
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:45 am

Patrick wrote:To me its not about class or nationalism and its certainly not the time to make a point - the crowd prove that

Its about a truly patriotic event - and if you take any sort of pride in wearing the England shirt in front of the world you should sing your spoilt little heart out

One slight change. Otherwise top.

If you take any sort of pride in wearing the England shirt in front of the world you should play your spoilt little heart out.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Dazzacity » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:59 am

Maybe many of the players are like many of us- they want an ENGLISH anthem and dont sing the British one out of protest??
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:02 pm

It IS overwhelmingly a rag trait - the whole fucking portgual team proper belted it out, except for guess who - yes their captain setting a fine example, being the only player in the squad, the bench and the management who couldnt find it within themselves to sing.

I'd be furious if I was portugese
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby Slim » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:08 pm

johnpb78 wrote:It IS overwhelmingly a rag trait - the whole fucking portgual team proper belted it out, except for guess who - yes their captain setting a fine example, being the only player in the squad, the bench and the management who couldnt find it within themselves to sing.

I'd be furious if I was portugese


I'd be furious if you were Portuguese as well, for one, not being able to spell Portuguese.
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Re: The National Anthem

Postby dick dastardley » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:53 am

check out these guys on how to sing and cry while having their anthem played!!!

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Re: The National Anthem

Postby sandman » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:08 am

SORTED wrote:Because it's a class thing and more often than not they're stuck up upper middle class twatocks.

Q/ How many manual workers or skilled tradesmen do you think attend last night of the proms?

A/ Probably none... for exactly the same reason as listed above.


The difference is that Rugby hasnt been tainted with spoilt little rich boys who are given too much too young and who for the most part care not for their fans, not for their clubs or their countries but just for themselves and money.

I think you'll find the "upper middle class twatocks" are far more down to earth and level headed than the overpaid, underworked degenerates that play professional football.
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