kinkylola wrote:let's not become the kind of fans that have to rationalize failure.
let's be brutally honest ... WE fucked up 4th. we had it in our grasp and we let it slip away, it was a failure. It was not a blessing in disguise..
BlueMoonAwoken wrote:I see where your coming from and i agree with you. Id like to see players with quality who are young and havent won anything yet and the manager can build a world class team.
kinkylola wrote:let's not become the kind of fans that have to rationalize failure.
let's be brutally honest ... WE fucked up 4th. we had it in our grasp and we let it slip away, it was a failure. It was not a blessing in disguise. you know who the best players are? the ones who are motivated to win at the very very top. The type of players who will only come if you're in the chumps league. Just because you fail to get into the chumps league doest mean that you magically get a harder working type of player. Why would that be true? because they came even though we can't offer the top top football yet? seems like they'd be coming for money then.
Lets not start thinking like losers, because that's exactly where this thought process leads.
We should not be ok with missing out on 4th. But we pick ourselves up, we strengthen, we look at were we've gone wrong and where we can improve and we fucking bend the prem over and fuck it in the ass next season with all the might that 35 years of frustration will build up.
but let's not start being grateful for not making the chumps league.
brite blu sky wrote:it isn't surprising that Barca are trying to offload Ibra.. they will never build the team around him and he just doesn't put the effort in game in game out to offer any confidence in playing him.. he is kind of 75% a waste of space if you like.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Btajim.
Hi Garry,I just wanted to shake your hand and ask you a question.I go to COMS as mucha as possible but sometimes I cannot leave the house as Sophie.....sorry..Sophie is my Cat...... needs a carer when Im away and sometimes I cannot find one.
My question is ; Is it possible to bring Sophie to matches at COMS in her kitten box and can she come in for free?
brite blu sky wrote:Having read about Bobby's comments recently on attracting players and listening to what Bellemy had to say on receiving his performance of the season award, it set me thinking about the kind of players City really want..
The pretext is that we want to challenge for the title and go on into the CL as Champions. We would then expect to be seriously taking on teams such as Barca, Inter, Real, Chelsea at the highest level.. the level where those sorts of teams put in the most effort..
it isn't surprising that Barca are trying to offload Ibra.. they will never build the team around him and he just doesn't put the effort in game in game out to offer any confidence in playing him.. he is kind of 75% a waste of space if you like.
So City have the target of being at the level of Barca.. ok that will take some time for sure, but the key thing is setting up initially the attitude that will forge a team that each member is putting in a serious shift.
Fulham showed this year what can be done with mainly hard work and discipline and belief.
We have a core of players that have that attitude, ok we can debate the skill levels to some degree.. but believe me you could drop some of Barca's players into another team and they would not be as special, ( Yaya Toure for one ).
So with all the talk of attracting top players and them not considering City with no CL. My question is Wouldn't that lack of interest show in some ways that those players are not the ones we want anyway.. It is a bit like the classic situations where players have achieved it all and then cash in and don't perform? i say like cos it isn't quite the same we aren't trying to sign the Ronaldinho's. But if you get my drift.. isn't it better that we sign players that have yet to get there and really really want it.. developing together into the team that takes on the world and gets there...
Based on this i am really happy to be reading that we are in for Boateng ( 23 ) and Milner ( 24 ).. i would also think that Torres could fit into this category but only if he can see that coming to City is about building that dream.
Im thinking that in the long run it is better that we dont have CL this year because it means the players we attract will have a better attitude to City.. and that means we can build a better team spirit that will serve well in the long term as the bulk of the players will have gotten us there by their own graft and teamwork.
I dont think you can buy that kind of thing
brite blu sky wrote:Having read about Bobby's comments recently on attracting players and listening to what Bellemy had to say on receiving his performance of the season award, it set me thinking about the kind of players City really want..
The pretext is that we want to challenge for the title and go on into the CL as Champions. We would then expect to be seriously taking on teams such as Barca, Inter, Real, Chelsea at the highest level.. the level where those sorts of teams put in the most effort..
it isn't surprising that Barca are trying to offload Ibra.. they will never build the team around him and he just doesn't put the effort in game in game out to offer any confidence in playing him.. he is kind of 75% a waste of space if you like.
So City have the target of being at the level of Barca.. ok that will take some time for sure, but the key thing is setting up initially the attitude that will forge a team that each member is putting in a serious shift.
Fulham showed this year what can be done with mainly hard work and discipline and belief.
We have a core of players that have that attitude, ok we can debate the skill levels to some degree.. but believe me you could drop some of Barca's players into another team and they would not be as special, ( Yaya Toure for one ).
So with all the talk of attracting top players and them not considering City with no CL. My question is Wouldn't that lack of interest show in some ways that those players are not the ones we want anyway.. It is a bit like the classic situations where players have achieved it all and then cash in and don't perform? i say like cos it isn't quite the same we aren't trying to sign the Ronaldinho's. But if you get my drift.. isn't it better that we sign players that have yet to get there and really really want it.. developing together into the team that takes on the world and gets there...
Based on this i am really happy to be reading that we are in for Boateng ( 23 ) and Milner ( 24 ).. i would also think that Torres could fit into this category but only if he can see that coming to City is about building that dream.
Im thinking that in the long run it is better that we dont have CL this year because it means the players we attract will have a better attitude to City.. and that means we can build a better team spirit that will serve well in the long term as the bulk of the players will have gotten us there by their own graft and teamwork.
I dont think you can buy that kind of thing
brite blu sky wrote:so why are Barca desperately trying to get rid of him.. tell me that?
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Btajim.
Hi Garry,I just wanted to shake your hand and ask you a question.I go to COMS as mucha as possible but sometimes I cannot leave the house as Sophie.....sorry..Sophie is my Cat...... needs a carer when Im away and sometimes I cannot find one.
My question is ; Is it possible to bring Sophie to matches at COMS in her kitten box and can she come in for free?
btajim wrote:brite blu sky wrote:so why are Barca desperately trying to get rid of him.. tell me that?
The alleged personality problem I've already mentioned?! Try reading something before unleashing a kneejerk reaction.
Slim wrote:You certainly don't become the best by being scared to face the best. I have tried to see logic in the OP but cannot get past the fact that certain City fans are fucking morbidly afraid of success.
Re: Where would Torres fit?.
gillie wrote:
Abu Dhabi wrote:
From all , you reckon he'll end up at spuds? WoW!
Yep coz he wont fit anywhere but us and Spuds and they have the barganing chip.
Surely he'll take 3 years of CL after a year without CL, rather than the other way round?
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