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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby stockportblue » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:28 pm

Apart from Boateng I know City are scouting a Bundesliga goalkeeper.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby avoidconfusion » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:55 pm

I rate Lahm, not sure how you cannot NQDP but I guess to each his own.

Looking very very good again at the moment against OL as well.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:25 pm

Your logic comes on you rating De Jong as our second best player all season which, imo, couldn't be further from the truth.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby avoidconfusion » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:26 pm

LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:Your logic comes on you rating De Jong as our second best player all season which, imo, couldn't be further from the truth.


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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:27 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:Your logic comes on you rating De Jong as our second best player all season which, imo, couldn't be further from the truth.


Who, me?

Oh, the guy who started the thread. I thought it was obvious sorry.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Grob » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:06 am

stockportblue wrote:Apart from Boateng I know City are scouting a Bundesliga goalkeeper.


Hope its Adler, the reflexes of the best shotstoppers and commands the area.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:37 am

avoidconfusion wrote:I rate Lahm, not sure how you cannot NQDP but I guess to each his own.

Looking very very good again at the moment against OL as well.


He was actually pretty good last night, I give you that. But poor defender.

You have no previous on players at least to my recollection but genral rule would be that if OD rates a striker, say like Benjani or Santa Cruz, we are better off staying well clear!
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:57 am

The Original Special One wrote:
Knappe wrote:Buy a team of Bundesliga talents and heavyweights

Rene Adler – Marcel Jansen, Mats Hummels, Jerome Boateng, Philipp Lahm – Nuri Sahin, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Mesut Özil, Marko Marin – Edin Dzeko, Stefan Kießling, Arjen Robben

how many of those are good enough to start with our current squad?

Five at least: Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Robben. Maybe Dzeko too, and that would be six.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:02 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
The Original Special One wrote:
Knappe wrote:Buy a team of Bundesliga talents and heavyweights

Rene Adler – Marcel Jansen, Mats Hummels, Jerome Boateng, Philipp Lahm – Nuri Sahin, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Mesut Özil, Marko Marin – Edin Dzeko, Stefan Kießling, Arjen Robben

how many of those are good enough to start with our current squad?

Five at least: Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Robben. Maybe Dzeko too, and that would be six.


Dzeko, Robben and Lahm at a push, although as said I prefer fullback who can actually defend.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Esky » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:00 am

Lahm Defending

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Lahm Attacking

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All from the last two games of Euro 2008. Take the (admittedly brilliant) goal away from him and he shouldn't have been anywhere near the Select XI (at least not as a defender anyway).

Didn't see the game overnight but I think he'd be a big mistake for us. Defenders who can really defend are what we need, not attacking wing backs.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:11 am

^ Exactly my point. Nice player going forward but poor defender who regualrily gets skinned. And like I said earlier, it was only that goal against Turkey that put him there, not his defensive abilities.

Then again, loads of people rate these attacking fullbacks. Robertoi Carlos was widely considered as best left back ever, whereas I always thought he was a homer who had cracking left foot. Would've been great left winger though.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:43 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:^ Exactly my point. Nice player going forward but poor defender who regualrily gets skinned. And like I said earlier, it was only that goal against Turkey that put him there, not his defensive abilities.

Then again, loads of people rate these attacking fullbacks. Robertoi Carlos was widely considered as best left back ever, whereas I always thought he was a homer who had cracking left foot. Would've been great left winger though.



Depends what Mancini's favoured system is next season if he's still here. If he opts to go for the boring 3 in midfield, he may want to balance that by having fullbacks who are brilliant at going forward. Lahm can certainly cross a ball even if he can't defend for shit.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby ant london » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:52 am

Original Dub wrote:if NQDP reckons he's shit, then I'd have him here in a flash.



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especially if the cunt is a manager ;-)
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Knappe » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm

just seen, that i´ve forgotten the biggest talent in my list: Toni Kroos
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby HeyMark » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:41 pm

Knappe wrote:just seen, that i´ve forgotten the biggest talent in my list: Toni Kroos



Have him in a flash, great player! Dont think bayern would sell though
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:23 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
CityFanFromRome wrote:
The Original Special One wrote:
Knappe wrote:Buy a team of Bundesliga talents and heavyweights

Rene Adler – Marcel Jansen, Mats Hummels, Jerome Boateng, Philipp Lahm – Nuri Sahin, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Mesut Özil, Marko Marin – Edin Dzeko, Stefan Kießling, Arjen Robben

how many of those are good enough to start with our current squad?

Five at least: Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Robben. Maybe Dzeko too, and that would be six.


Dzeko, Robben and Lahm at a push, although as said I prefer fullback who can actually defend.

Ozil and Schweinsteiger would both fill the creative midfielder hole we currently have, with Ireland playing below his possibilities this season, so I reckon either one of them would start for us. Boateng, well that was me being hopeful I admit, as it seems we got him already ;)

Knappe wrote:just seen, that i´ve forgotten the biggest talent in my list: Toni Kroos


Pure talent this one, Bayern will never sell him.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:52 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
CityFanFromRome wrote:
The Original Special One wrote:
Knappe wrote:Buy a team of Bundesliga talents and heavyweights

Rene Adler – Marcel Jansen, Mats Hummels, Jerome Boateng, Philipp Lahm – Nuri Sahin, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Mesut Özil, Marko Marin – Edin Dzeko, Stefan Kießling, Arjen Robben

how many of those are good enough to start with our current squad?

Five at least: Lahm, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Ozil, Robben. Maybe Dzeko too, and that would be six.


Dzeko, Robben and Lahm at a push, although as said I prefer fullback who can actually defend.

Ozil and Schweinsteiger would both fill the creative midfielder hole we currently have, with Ireland playing below his possibilities this season, so I reckon either one of them would start for us. Boateng, well that was me being hopeful I admit, as it seems we got him already ;)

Knappe wrote:just seen, that i´ve forgotten the biggest talent in my list: Toni Kroos


Pure talent this one, Bayern will never sell him.


'Basti' is no better than Ireland. People always tend to think that grass is greener on the other side of the fence but once Ireland gets back to full fitness and finds his form again, he is better player.

Ozil is actually better player of the two but again, I don't think he would be much of an improvement. I'd take him to provide competition though if we can't find better player.

Boateng has the potential to be better then both of them but so far he isn't on the same level with Kompany and Lescott.
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Re: Bundesliga Players

Postby Esky » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:04 am

What's Muller like (the one at Bayern)? Seen him destroy teams in the Bundesliga this season but not heard anything of him in the Chumps League.

Also, who's the better keeper, Adler or Neuer?
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