shawzy wrote:Like FB mentioned..Id put Barry in at left back (if his groin aint playing up) Get SWP back IF fit..If not Weiss needs a start to bring balance back on the right flank.
King Kev wrote:Personally I think that Barry needs to be dropped. If he can't do the job he was bought for then there's no point playing him at LB. He needs to be dropped until whatever is affecting his game is sorted out. Garrido can cover at LB.
Robinho and Adebayor need a hefty kick up their arses and should be told that if they don't sort themselves out they will be dropped regardless of their price-tags.
Toure I can't work out. Wasn't he a member of the Arsenal Invincibles? I am sure he is a very good player but have seen very little to back up this belief since he joined us.
Wonderwall wrote:Stay with me.... it might be a little experimental
GK - Given OK should not be replaced
RB - Richards OK should not be replaced
CB - Kompany moves into the back four to replace Sylvinho but takes Neds position
CB - Toure OK but needs a kick up the arse
LB - Onuoha OK but Moves to LB to give us a bit more pace
RM - SWP will hopefully return
AM - Ireland OK I have seen glimpses of the old superman and think he will be back to form soon
DM - De Jong OK should not be replaced
LM - Bellamy comes back in and will be eager to get his teeth into anyone who dares take the ball off him
AM/ST - Robinho - I know tevez has been doing well but I want to see if Robbie has any desire at all
ST - Santa Cruz - looked ok and lively for the first time in a blue shirt, maybe this would be the kick up Ade's arse that is needed
Bench of
Taylor
Sylvinho
Zabba
Barry
Weiss
Adebayor
Tevez
At the end of the day, they should all be good enough to warrant starts.
Wonderwall wrote:Stay with me.... it might be a little experimental
GK - Given OK should not be replaced
RB - Richards OK should not be replaced
CB - Kompany moves into the back four to replace Sylvinho but takes Neds position
CB - Toure OK but needs a kick up the arse
LB - Onuoha OK but Moves to LB to give us a bit more pace
RM - SWP will hopefully return
AM - Ireland OK I have seen glimpses of the old superman and think he will be back to form soon
DM - De Jong OK should not be replaced
LM - Bellamy comes back in and will be eager to get his teeth into anyone who dares take the ball off him
AM/ST - Robinho - I know tevez has been doing well but I want to see if Robbie has any desire at all
ST - Santa Cruz - looked ok and lively for the first time in a blue shirt, maybe this would be the kick up Ade's arse that is needed
Bench of
Taylor
Sylvinho
Zabba
Barry
Weiss
Adebayor
Tevez
At the end of the day, they should all be good enough to warrant starts.
King Kev wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Stay with me.... it might be a little experimental
GK - Given OK should not be replaced
RB - Richards OK should not be replaced
CB - Kompany moves into the back four to replace Sylvinho but takes Neds position
CB - Toure OK but needs a kick up the arse
LB - Onuoha OK but Moves to LB to give us a bit more pace
RM - SWP will hopefully return
AM - Ireland OK I have seen glimpses of the old superman and think he will be back to form soon
DM - De Jong OK should not be replaced
LM - Bellamy comes back in and will be eager to get his teeth into anyone who dares take the ball off him
AM/ST - Robinho - I know tevez has been doing well but I want to see if Robbie has any desire at all
ST - Santa Cruz - looked ok and lively for the first time in a blue shirt, maybe this would be the kick up Ade's arse that is needed
Bench of
Taylor
Sylvinho
Zabba
Barry
Weiss
Adebayor
Tevez
At the end of the day, they should all be good enough to warrant starts.
I think you might be alone in thinking that Tevez should be dropped.
kinkylola wrote:unfair criticism of robbie, I think ... also the same one that uneducated rag fans love to throw out. When have we ever had a solid away performance since robbie has been at the club? if you can name more than 1 I'll be surprised ... naming 3 is near impossible.
in the first 10 minutes of that game, robbie and tevez and everyone looked up for it and robbie's passing especially looked good. After that he fell out of the game ... but so did everyone on our team with the exception of ... NO ONE.
everyone wants to persecute robbie for not doing anything on away days, but there isn't anyone on our team that steps it up on away day, and robbie takes the brunt because he's supposed to be our ace. How can robbie do anything when he's double teamed and everyone around him is gash? I support every player on MCFC, and equally, I do not make excuses for any players. But to say that robbie individually was poor last game is too harsh, imo, he had no one to play with ... no one did, we looked disjointed for 80 minutes of that game.
the thing i'm most surprised about his how petrov can't even get a look in. especially now when it seems the thing we lack most is width, which has been emphasized by swp's absense. Robbie is not a winger, he will not stay out wide, he drifts all over. I would go with a lineup of:
I`m not being down on Robbie however you look to your stars when THE TEAM is not performing, to show that little bit of magic to spur and drive THE TEAM on. He`s not the only STAR at the club but at the moment they`re all Tommy Cooper and I`d rather the magic be more Derren Brown
given
richards onuoha toure sylvinho
weiss dejong ireland petrov (dejong suspended? ok kompany then)
rsc tevez
the bench picks itself.
I stick with sylvinho at LB because ... well we don't have any other options 1 ... and 2 everyone saw him get torched by lennon, no doubt, would bridge have faired better? I actually like the way that sylvinho plays LB, I like his intelligence and positioning, and I dont think anyone would select him as a speed option at this point in his career. We just were not equipped to deal with lennon's pace. Had bridge been in there his better pace may have helped a bit ... but how much really? Sunderland do not have lennon, and so sylvinho's advantages will be better on display.
Ade is looking lazy/unmotivated and It won't do him harm to sit him for a game. He seems to do best when facing massive criticism/adversity ... so give him something to think about. RSC, for his part, put in a good shift at the end of the game and I would like to see him given a run out. could swap weiss for bellamy if you want more experience/graft on the wing ... but I would not drop tevez at this stage for anything. I want to put robbie in the team but right now we have to come out with a different look because we are becoming very predictable ... and i think that might be as much a part of our current woes as any other single factor.
oh and dejong (kompo) sitting back, ireland pushing up into amc role, obviously. diamond 442 style.
simon12 wrote:kinkylola wrote:unfair criticism of robbie, I think ... also the same one that uneducated rag fans love to throw out. When have we ever had a solid away performance since robbie has been at the club? if you can name more than 1 I'll be surprised ... naming 3 is near impossible.
in the first 10 minutes of that game, robbie and tevez and everyone looked up for it and robbie's passing especially looked good. After that he fell out of the game ... but so did everyone on our team with the exception of ... NO ONE.
everyone wants to persecute robbie for not doing anything on away days, but there isn't anyone on our team that steps it up on away day, and robbie takes the brunt because he's supposed to be our ace. How can robbie do anything when he's double teamed and everyone around him is gash? I support every player on MCFC, and equally, I do not make excuses for any players. But to say that robbie individually was poor last game is too harsh, imo, he had no one to play with ... no one did, we looked disjointed for 80 minutes of that game.
the thing i'm most surprised about his how petrov can't even get a look in. especially now when it seems the thing we lack most is width, which has been emphasized by swp's absense. Robbie is not a winger, he will not stay out wide, he drifts all over. I would go with a lineup of:
I`m not being down on Robbie however you look to your stars when THE TEAM is not performing, to show that little bit of magic to spur and drive THE TEAM on. He`s not the only STAR at the club but at the moment they`re all Tommy Cooper and I`d rather the magic be more Derren Brown
given
richards onuoha toure sylvinho
weiss dejong ireland petrov (dejong suspended? ok kompany then)
rsc tevez
the bench picks itself.
I stick with sylvinho at LB because ... well we don't have any other options 1 ... and 2 everyone saw him get torched by lennon, no doubt, would bridge have faired better? I actually like the way that sylvinho plays LB, I like his intelligence and positioning, and I dont think anyone would select him as a speed option at this point in his career. We just were not equipped to deal with lennon's pace. Had bridge been in there his better pace may have helped a bit ... but how much really? Sunderland do not have lennon, and so sylvinho's advantages will be better on display.
Ade is looking lazy/unmotivated and It won't do him harm to sit him for a game. He seems to do best when facing massive criticism/adversity ... so give him something to think about. RSC, for his part, put in a good shift at the end of the game and I would like to see him given a run out. could swap weiss for bellamy if you want more experience/graft on the wing ... but I would not drop tevez at this stage for anything. I want to put robbie in the team but right now we have to come out with a different look because we are becoming very predictable ... and i think that might be as much a part of our current woes as any other single factor.
oh and dejong (kompo) sitting back, ireland pushing up into amc role, obviously. diamond 442 style.
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