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For the second time in 20 months we had this chap come in today to deliver a motivational presentation about the benefit of process. His field of excellence is in Sports but he makes presentations to Commerce as well, as his briefings are easily transferable to this environment.

So who is he and what has he done to be able to present to multi national company's and international sports people and teams??

I've attached a link to his webpage but in a nutshell he helped deliver the RWC to England in 2003, his MO is attention to detail and how preparation is absolutely key to delivering success. For England he prepared a dossier that all the team, including subs, backroom team, absolutely everyone had a copy of and understood.

He identified 7 key winning behaviours....defence, basics, pressure, attack, team tactics, self control and leadership. Each of these behaviours were then broken down into 8-10 areas that fed into that behaviour. These 8-10 areas were then broken down into knowledge and from that, each area of knowledge led to a teaching. Quite fascinating, the example he used was when Wilkinson drop kicked the goal against the cons to win the RWC. That move led from being taught it through knowledge and was under the heading of pressure!

So, you are probably wondering where the fuck this is going??? Yep, I know you are!

He apparently did some work with Pearce when he was Manager but it went no further. I asked him what he thought of City then, he was pretty dismissive to say the very least.

Now, onto the fact that he was at COMS yesterday delivering another presentation to Hughes, Cook, Stemp ( Head of HR / facilities I think he said?) and a few others. I asked him what the difference was now and he was very positive about the new setup from Khaldoon all the way down to the nutrionists etc. I then asked him where City are on their journey compared to when he started out with England RFU and he reckons we are at about 60% BUT that we have the desire and infrastructure to make it. Hughes is apparently very open to anything that is going to add 1% to the performance of the individuals and Dave has found him to be very keen to embrace what he is doing.

I found it really inetresting talking to him for a few minutes but it fills me with great optimism that our Club are that dedicated to wringing 1% extra out here and there. Its not about improving one thing 100% but more about improving 100 things 1% or 2%, that makes the difference to being a good team and a great team.

Not sure whether I've done justice to the way Dave operates but he showed me his RWC dossier and it really is so bloody comprehensive its untrue!!

Just another example of where we are moving too and I lurve it!!

From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

Humbug.
I think there's a difference between a "doer" who turns into a talker (just because you can climb a big hill n times doesnt give you wisdom, charisma, wit) and a thinker who explains their methods (Dronny's man).
Jonny kicked the goal, but as an after dinner or motivational speaker I'd expect him to be dull.
Dave reddin sounds A1 interesting and right up Hughesies (open minded) street

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

That's a fairly shocking amount of money. Could have got Bill Clinton for that. I think I share your natural cynicism for motivational speakers, they can be inspiring to an extent, but those ones are most effective when focused on management. Ultimately companies pay that because they feel they get some return for it.

When the top guys are earning huge, huge money they don't this sort of this as expensive. It's for them, but all those extra seats are just a bonus. You were there to make up the numbers.

Woodward brought in a lot of people to help out and it's very hard to see what effects they had. Some of them I was sceptical about but the more I heard the more I thought that it might have been a good idea. There was a vision coach who worked for England, then for South Africa when they won the rugby world cup and then Bryan Habana hired personally when the new coach stopped the program.

ronk wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

That's a fairly shocking amount of money. Could have got Bill Clinton for that. I think I share your natural cynicism for motivational speakers, they can be inspiring to an extent, but those ones are most effective when focused on management. Ultimately companies pay that because they feel they get some return for it.

When the top guys are earning huge, huge money they don't this sort of this as expensive. It's for them, but all those extra seats are just a bonus. You were there to make up the numbers.

Woodward brought in a lot of people to help out and it's very hard to see what effects they had. Some of them I was sceptical about but the more I heard the more I thought that it might have been a good idea. There was a vision coach who worked for England, then for South Africa when they won the rugby world cup and then Bryan Habana hired personally when the new coach stopped the program.

she's now working for the British Olympic Association.
But Woodward is hugely complementary of Reddin (as were his players).
200k for a climber is daft money, but I guess there are a limited number of native Finnish speakers who've done anything to shout about



;-)

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

Know where you are coming from ref the above, but to me and most of the people in the room he had something very tangible to hang his hat on. I suppose its like the debate about the football Manager starting out on his career who's never played at the top level. Does he have the knowledge, does he understand how pro players work, learn, socialise etc...maybe, maybe not and therefore he has to earn their respect compared to the guy who has all the medals and is already recognised.

I just like the detail that City are prepared to go to, to make it work (see the thread about the 7 elite City behaviours...it appears we are embracing them already!).

I suggested that perhaps Wenger was one of the first to embrace this "managing by detail culture" and Dave said that he had been to the arse and they were a) not particularly interested and b) not in a position to be ready to embrace it. Now, I appreciate it might be that Dave was speaking from a point of view of being spurned, perhaps, but I don't think so. It did surprise me though bearing in mind what you hear about the "Professor" with diet and his training methods.

He also said that interestingly there are a number of "coaches" in professional support - no names but his inference was towards some in pro football and not Hughes! - who are scared to coach and therefore are more organisers. The reason for this is that they have this talent pool and they don't feel they have ability, aptitude, call it what you like to be able to develop the players.

I just like the fact that we are leaving no stone unturned and I know its a crap, crap cliche but "Fail to prepare, prepare to fail"

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:From my own experience, these motivational speakers are bunch of booring clowns. I once listened this booring chap who had apparently conquered Mt.Everest more times than anyone else and had done all the big mountains in the world. This fool explained how in "even everyday work you have to conquer mountains" and shit like that. What fucking mountains? I did fluid calculations for living FFS. I was desperately trying to get my desk clean for friday only to start the rat race again on monday. No fucking mountains there. I later learned that this fool had been paid 200k to keep that speach to roughly 200 people. That's 1000 Euros per person. If my boss had said "here's 1000 euros for you son to take a nice weeks trip to Manchester to see couple of games, now climb few mountains for me" I might've well done that. But the speech by some tosser who I last saw on telly advertising trekking gear for Budget Sport, only got me more pissed off. 200k for feller who advertises for Budget Sport, for fucks sake.

Didn't mean to take anything out of your experience, just meant to say that I'm not sure whether these speeches have any efect.

Terrible post: Have you never seen David Brents motivational speech?