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we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:36 pm
by Wonderwall
title is mis-leading but have a look at this

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/ ... 21,00.html

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:40 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
And some people are saying playing high balls to box would be clever tactic for us against Stoke......MUAHAHAHAHA.

Anyway, here's another interesting stat. The players of our team have in average second most Premier League games in whole league.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:57 pm
by Slim
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:And some people are saying playing high balls to box would be clever tactic for us against Stoke......MUAHAHAHAHA.

Anyway, here's another interesting stat. The players of our team have in average second most Premier League games in whole league.


Here's an interesting stat, we were LAST in that stat last year.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 pm
by Andy, lincs
And to add to interesting stats, we are top of the fair play league. Granted having played a game less but so much for Hughes turning us into a dirty kicking blackburn team. I guess we now have no steel and bite to us!!!

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:46 pm
by Slim
Andy, lincs wrote:And to add to interesting stats, we are top of the fair play league. Granted having played a game less but so much for Hughes turning us into a dirty kicking blackburn team. I guess we now have no steel and bite to us!!!


Hard to concede fouls when you are being kicked so much the ref's arm gets tired from pointing the same way, thank god we change ends at the half or it would have fallen off.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:06 pm
by Twobob
Soccer (Its FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!) AM did something similar about hight in the Prem, was quite funny - we were one of the smallest and Blackburn/Pompy being one of the largest - we were also one of the most successfull too ...

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:47 am
by ronk
We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:28 am
by Slim
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


Shay is 6'2", isn't Kasper like 5'10"?

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:36 am
by john@staustell
Slim wrote:
Andy, lincs wrote:And to add to interesting stats, we are top of the fair play league. Granted having played a game less but so much for Hughes turning us into a dirty kicking blackburn team. I guess we now have no steel and bite to us!!!


Hard to concede fouls when you are being kicked so much the ref's arm gets tired from pointing the same way, thank god we change ends at the half or it would have fallen off.


Luckily he didn't stretch it up in the air carrying yellow cards etc, risking a strain injury.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:41 am
by Beeks
Slim wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


Shay is 6'2", isn't Kasper like 5'10"?


Shays actually 6ft 1ins Slim...not that an inch matters...but I must admit when I first heard this I found it hard to believe...he looks so much shorter!

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 am
by ant london
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:not that an inch matters...



does when it's girth

ask any woman

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 am
by ronk
ant london wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:not that an inch matters...



does when it's girth

ask any woman


Or maybe don't go harassing random ladies (with that question).

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 am
by Pablo Sacramento
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Slim wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


Shay is 6'2", isn't Kasper like 5'10"?


Shays actually 6ft 1ins Slim...not that an inch matters...but I must admit when I first heard this I found it hard to believe...he looks so much shorter!



I think its cos generally the going rate is about 6'4'' for keepers.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:09 am
by Beeks
ant london wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:not that an inch matters...



does when it's girth

ask any woman


Like the Sheikhs with their money...measurements are not even an issue for me ;-)

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:49 am
by Slim
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Slim wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


Shay is 6'2", isn't Kasper like 5'10"?


Shays actually 6ft 1ins Slim...not that an inch matters...but I must admit when I first heard this I found it hard to believe...he looks so much shorter!


Depends if you only have two, then it's half your firepower.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 am
by Beeks
Slim wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Slim wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


Shay is 6'2", isn't Kasper like 5'10"?


Shays actually 6ft 1ins Slim...not that an inch matters...but I must admit when I first heard this I found it hard to believe...he looks so much shorter!


Depends if you only have two, then it's half your firepower.


Badoom *Hi Hat*

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 am
by Slim
Still back on subject.....kasper is a fucking midget in keeper terms, I think Shay is an upgrade on that.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:29 am
by Dunne's Half-Time Pint
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


I don't think that we are. Look at the absolute squadron which Pompey had to deal with at corners: Adebayor, Lescott, Toure, Richards.
RSC and Kompany in the shed. Barry is a solidly built 6 footer.
We're more than capable of the physical/power game.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:36 pm
by ronk
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


I don't think that we are. Look at the absolute squadron which Pompey had to deal with at corners: Adebayor, Lescott, Toure, Richards.
RSC and Kompany in the shed. Barry is a solidly built 6 footer.
We're more than capable of the physical/power game.


Richards is sub 6 foot, Toure barely is. They're more about leaping than height and not especially tall for centre halves.

I could also add Weiss and de Jong. Both shorter than Bellamy (who's still short).

We've certainly added useful height to the team but all those short players are obviously not going to help our average.

Curiously, it seems that smaller squads are taller squads to a certain extent.

Re: we signged big players but are still a small club

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:45 pm
by Dunne's Half-Time Pint
ronk wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
ronk wrote:We are a small club. Tevez, Ireland, SWP, Robinho etc. Even Shay is a notably short goalie.


I don't think that we are. Look at the absolute squadron which Pompey had to deal with at corners: Adebayor, Lescott, Toure, Richards.
RSC and Kompany in the shed. Barry is a solidly built 6 footer.
We're more than capable of the physical/power game.


Richards is sub 6 foot, Toure barely is. They're more about leaping than height and not especially tall for centre halves.

I could also add Weiss and de Jong. Both shorter than Bellamy (who's still short).

We've certainly added useful height to the team but all those short players are obviously not going to help our average.

Curiously, it seems that smaller squads are taller squads to a certain extent.


small and short aren't the same thing - Toure and Richards may be "only" 182-6cm tall (or whatever) but they are big physical presences, powerful, difficult to run against, jump with and mark. I don't think our squad needs to be, or will be, muscled out of any games nor will it struggle against the long ball game. Plus, we play most of our football on the transition and along the floor - for which are personnel are about perfect - there aren't many 6foot+ players capable of playing that game (who'd be interested in joining right now). I absolutely guarantee we're taller than Barca though.

At attacking set pieces you've got Adebayor man mountaining, Lescott piling across your face and Toure and Richards bombing/salmoning in. I think Blackburn and the goal at Pompey have been good indicators of how much change you can expect to get out of us at set pieces/in the air.