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Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:35 pm
by trueblue64
4/7 on with bookies to be an Aston Villa player come Sept, I hope this does not happen he will be a good backup.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:37 pm
by Original Dub
No way, another Dunne thread! ;)

Of course he'll be good back-up and he should have the right to fight for a first team place with any new defender signed. It will improve his game and that of the defender signed.

If we do sell him, we'll need to go out and buy a very good central defender who won't mind being cover.

Now let's have a look at a list of those who'd fit that bill...

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:43 pm
by MaineRoadMemories
I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:58 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
MaineRoadMemories wrote:I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.


Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:11 pm
by Fish111
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I seriously hope your wrong with both of them NQDP. I'd be gutted if either of them left us. As for Dunne, i think he doesn't want to be a backup player, i can see him moving on before the end of the window.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:15 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Fish111 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I seriously hope your wrong with both of them NQDP. I'd be gutted if either of them left us. As for Dunne, i think he doesn't want to be a backup player, i can see him moving on before the end of the window.


I'd be gutted to lose either of them as well mate. I just got a feeling neither of them are looking to play second fiddle. Zabaleta especially would be huge loss.

Regarding Dunne, I agree. I doubt he'd want to stay as a back up at this stage of his career and it's anyway questionable whether he should be there before Nedum anyway. There'd be big chance he'd end up looking games at the stands. I'd rather see him move elsewhere and get and ending to his career he deserves. Would be one of the first names on the team sheet in Everton or Villa and he'd still be playoing in competitive side.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:18 pm
by Socrates
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Fish111 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I seriously hope your wrong with both of them NQDP. I'd be gutted if either of them left us. As for Dunne, i think he doesn't want to be a backup player, i can see him moving on before the end of the window.


I'd be gutted to lose either of them as well mate. I just got a feeling neither of them are looking to play second fiddle. Zabaleta especially would be huge loss.

Regarding Dunne, I agree. I doubt he'd want to stay as a back up at this stage of his career and it's anyway questionable whether he should be there before Nedum anyway. There'd be big chance he'd end up looking games at the stands. I'd rather see him move elsewhere and get and ending to his career he deserves. Would be one of the first names on the team sheet in Everton or Villa and he'd still be playoing in competitive side.


We can NOT give him to Gollum. He deserves better than that!

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:36 pm
by everyonehatesus
Did'nt mr Dunne come out and say that he would stay and fight for a place in the team and will only leave if the club whants him to.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:38 pm
by Fish111
Socrates wrote:We can NOT give him to Gollum. He deserves better than that!


Ha Ha, that made me laugh. I knew who you meant immediately.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:09 pm
by Twobob
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Fish111 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I seriously hope your wrong with both of them NQDP. I'd be gutted if either of them left us. As for Dunne, i think he doesn't want to be a backup player, i can see him moving on before the end of the window.


I'd be gutted to lose either of them as well mate. I just got a feeling neither of them are looking to play second fiddle. Zabaleta especially would be huge loss.

Regarding Dunne, I agree. I doubt he'd want to stay as a back up at this stage of his career and it's anyway questionable whether he should be there before Nedum anyway. There'd be big chance he'd end up looking games at the stands. I'd rather see him move elsewhere and get and ending to his career he deserves. Would be one of the first names on the team sheet in Everton or Villa and he'd still be playoing in competitive side.



I'd love Dunnie to stay, but if he did decide that he needed first team football he would go with my blessing and I'd be the first to applaud him when he turned up for anouther team - Would be brilliant if he stayed for his Testimonial though.

Cant see Zabba going anywere though (or maybe thats hope!), firstly he'd be my first choice at RB and can only think that its his fitness or something keeping him on the bench (although Michah is pushing the envelope on that one!) but as he isnt first choice he's so important as cover - Love Neddy but he's not a RB!

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:19 pm
by nickson71
Twobob wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Fish111 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I seriously hope your wrong with both of them NQDP. I'd be gutted if either of them left us. As for Dunne, i think he doesn't want to be a backup player, i can see him moving on before the end of the window.


I'd be gutted to lose either of them as well mate. I just got a feeling neither of them are looking to play second fiddle. Zabaleta especially would be huge loss.

Regarding Dunne, I agree. I doubt he'd want to stay as a back up at this stage of his career and it's anyway questionable whether he should be there before Nedum anyway. There'd be big chance he'd end up looking games at the stands. I'd rather see him move elsewhere and get and ending to his career he deserves. Would be one of the first names on the team sheet in Everton or Villa and he'd still be playoing in competitive side.



I'd love Dunnie to stay, but if he did decide that he needed first team football he would go with my blessing and I'd be the first to applaud him when he turned up for anouther team - Would be brilliant if he stayed for his Testimonial though.

Cant see Zabba going anywere though (or maybe thats hope!), firstly he'd be my first choice at RB and can only think that its his fitness or something keeping him on the bench (although Michah is pushing the envelope on that one!) but as he isnt first choice he's so important as cover - Love Neddy but he's not a RB!


I wouldn't surprise me if Zabba did go this window

He's represented Argentina at all level bar the full squad and he got Gold at the Olympics. The first choice RB for Argentina is now getting old (36ish I think) and as a result Zabba may want to try and force his way into Maradona's plan for next summer and he won't be doing that on the bench for us ........

Saying that I hope he stay but the way the squad is looking and who Hughes has been selecting the role of Zabba is going to be back up RB or back up DM, neither of these will further his international ambitions

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:27 pm
by Shegelu
Garrido's already on his way out. What a pity, never mind! ;-) Benjani wants out but no one wants him (sniff sniff). Still, if we managed to get Celtic to buy waste-of-space Samaras, someone will snap up Benji.

To be honest, Dunne is old now and Onuoha is much more reliable, but with the way injuries go, we need two solid back up centre backs. I reckon Dunne will stay.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:29 pm
by Mr Miyagi
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.


Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I understand your reasoning about Zabba, but I just can't see Hughes wanting to sell him. According to Guilem Balague "Sparky" spent nearly a year scouting Zabba when he was manager at Blackburn, which explains why he was pretty much the first signing he made. Also a utility player as well.... can't see him leaving.

If there is a surprise one leaving I think it might be De Jong. I've read gossip in the past few months that De Jong is unhappy with the move to England and is deperate to go back to Germany. It might be speculation of course, but part of me would not be surprised to read De Jong is sold to Bayern Munich (where Van Gaal is now manager)....

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:36 pm
by kinkylola
I'd like dunne to stay, but not as first choice. I would have liked that to be ned but seems like it will be lescott now. I think it's plausible that dunne leaves before the end of this window

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:42 pm
by Niall Quinns Discopants
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.


Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I understand your reasoning about Zabba, but I just can't see Hughes wanting to sell him. According to Guilem Balague "Sparky" spent nearly a year scouting Zabba when he was manager at Blackburn, which explains why he was pretty much the first signing he made. Also a utility player as well.... can't see him leaving.

If there is a surprise one leaving I think it might be De Jong. I've read gossip in the past few months that De Jong is unhappy with the move to England and is deperate to go back to Germany. It might be speculation of course, but part of me would not be surprised to read De Jong is sold to Bayern Munich (where Van Gaal is now manager)....


Surprised to hear that. His English seems to be perfect and he seems laid back in intervews. Lifestyle isn't all that different to Netherlands and Germany either. But you never know, Barry Ferguson was homesick in Blackburn and David Unsworth's missus in Birmingham!

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:46 pm
by kinkylola
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.


Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I understand your reasoning about Zabba, but I just can't see Hughes wanting to sell him. According to Guilem Balague "Sparky" spent nearly a year scouting Zabba when he was manager at Blackburn, which explains why he was pretty much the first signing he made. Also a utility player as well.... can't see him leaving.

If there is a surprise one leaving I think it might be De Jong. I've read gossip in the past few months that De Jong is unhappy with the move to England and is deperate to go back to Germany. It might be speculation of course, but part of me would not be surprised to read De Jong is sold to Bayern Munich (where Van Gaal is now manager)....


Surprised to hear that. His English seems to be perfect and he seems laid back in intervews. Lifestyle isn't all that different to Netherlands and Germany either. But you never know, Barry Ferguson was homesick in Blackburn and David Unsworth's missus in Birmingham!


I think dutch players, especially coming from the ajax system, are very tempermental. If he's thinking that his playing time is getting significantly affected by something I think he'll become disallusioned pretty quickly. And, as we've seen, he has only just played in the last match making a 20m sub appearance, if that. So i'm sure he's not happy. All that being said, I want him to stay because i think he is a great midfield destroyer. Hard in the tackle and can run all day.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:57 pm
by Shegelu
kinkylola wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:I've got a feeling transfer deadline day will be busy at City this year, but not with players coming in.


Agree.
I expect fair few leaving. My predictions are Dunne, Garrido, Benjani and possibly one player we end up missing (Petrov or Zabaleta).


I understand your reasoning about Zabba, but I just can't see Hughes wanting to sell him. According to Guilem Balague "Sparky" spent nearly a year scouting Zabba when he was manager at Blackburn, which explains why he was pretty much the first signing he made. Also a utility player as well.... can't see him leaving.

If there is a surprise one leaving I think it might be De Jong. I've read gossip in the past few months that De Jong is unhappy with the move to England and is deperate to go back to Germany. It might be speculation of course, but part of me would not be surprised to read De Jong is sold to Bayern Munich (where Van Gaal is now manager)....


Uh oh!! We need De Jong truly. This is one of the problems of having a bigger squad of class players. Gareth Barry's arrival has squeezed out Kompany and De Jong. Barry is fantastic end to ender and we are a so much better team with him, but he hasn't got the grit and scaryness of De Jong. We need Nigel for those times when we just need to close down the opposition's midfield. I've noticed that without him, we've been giving teams too much space in attacking midfield later on in games.

Surprised to hear that. His English seems to be perfect and he seems laid back in intervews. Lifestyle isn't all that different to Netherlands and Germany either. But you never know, Barry Ferguson was homesick in Blackburn and David Unsworth's missus in Birmingham!


I think dutch players, especially coming from the ajax system, are very tempermental. If he's thinking that his playing time is getting significantly affected by something I think he'll become disallusioned pretty quickly. And, as we've seen, he has only just played in the last match making a 20m sub appearance, if that. So i'm sure he's not happy. All that being said, I want him to stay because i think he is a great midfield destroyer. Hard in the tackle and can run all day.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:01 pm
by Grob
Would rather Dunne stayed but i will leave the choice up to him

Before the window shuts, I would imagine we will see the back of Ben Haim, Benjani and Garrido. No loss. These 3 players are not good enough.

Zabs will stay. Petrov probably will too.

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:31 pm
by OhDannyBoy
I understand we have better..(Well argubaly, i still think Dunnes good as anyone we have most games but thats my opinion)

Anyway do you not think we'll be losing a bit of our identity letting Dunnie leave? its almost like a whole new team bar a few of the kids (Stevie etc) in 2 seasons....Be a shame to lose a player before he can get his testimonial

Re: Richard Dunne

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:01 am
by Steve
Personally I still want to see Dunne start the next game, and the next. Until he has two poor back to back performances, and then time to put Joleon in. It would be very sad to drop our captain who has not conceded a goal yet this season.