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twosips wrote:I'm pretty certain that's based on the Uwe Rosler link. Could be sheer speculation as Uwe's always at the eds games. I've seen him 3/4 times myself there this year....

Though that would make sense for the very same reason. I suspect he'll want a loan or two from us, like how he took Huws while at Wigan.

iwasthere2012 wrote:

twosips wrote:I'm pretty certain that's based on the Uwe Rosler link. Could be sheer speculation as Uwe's always at the eds games. I've seen him 3/4 times myself there this year....

Though that would make sense for the very same reason. I suspect he'll want a loan or two from us, like how he took Huws while at Wigan.

It wouldn't be the worst of moves if it happens. As you say, Uwe would know all about him and you would expect that he would give him game time, if he wants him there. I would like to see him in the first team squad, but judging on his form at the end of this season, perhaps a loan would be more sensible. If we do buy a quality winger the chances of the likes of Barker getting any significant time on the pitch for us, would be slim.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

twosips wrote:I'm pretty certain that's based on the Uwe Rosler link. Could be sheer speculation as Uwe's always at the eds games. I've seen him 3/4 times myself there this year....

Though that would make sense for the very same reason. I suspect he'll want a loan or two from us, like how he took Huws while at Wigan.

It wouldn't be the worst of moves if it happens. As you say, Uwe would know all about him and you would expect that he would give him game time, if he wants him there. I would like to see him in the first team squad, but judging on his form at the end of this season, perhaps a loan would be more sensible. If we do buy a quality winger the chances of the likes of Barker getting any significant time on the pitch for us, would be slim.

Perhaps any putative loan arrangement with Leeds ought to be contingent upon Rosler being employed by that Club.

If Uwe is sacked part way through the season, which is not an unlikely event, the loan agreement should then be terminated.

Tokyo Blue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

twosips wrote:I'm pretty certain that's based on the Uwe Rosler link. Could be sheer speculation as Uwe's always at the eds games. I've seen him 3/4 times myself there this year....

Though that would make sense for the very same reason. I suspect he'll want a loan or two from us, like how he took Huws while at Wigan.

It wouldn't be the worst of moves if it happens. As you say, Uwe would know all about him and you would expect that he would give him game time, if he wants him there. I would like to see him in the first team squad, but judging on his form at the end of this season, perhaps a loan would be more sensible. If we do buy a quality winger the chances of the likes of Barker getting any significant time on the pitch for us, would be slim.

Perhaps any putative loan arrangement with Leeds ought to be contingent upon Rosler being employed by that Club.

If Uwe is sacked part way through the season, which is not an unlikely event, the loan agreement should then be terminated.

baconface did that when his son got the boot at Peterborough. If Barker goes there and is doing well, I believe he'll get games whoever the manager is. Personally I wouldn't loan players to dirty leeds on principle, but there you go. There are 23 other clubs at the same level we could look at. Take Middlesbrough, for example, who have got very good manager and play decent stuff.

Im_Spartacus wrote:Bacon only managed it because they weren't season long loans. We can't put conditions in a season long loan, so best we could do is ship him out till Xmas then have another look - which is probably the right way to go about it if anyone thinks he's upto scratch.

Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks for the excellent reports chaps. Pissed off I couldn't go.

Gutted about Pozo. I'm sure it's the timing of his two injuries which has done for him. I was worried it could happen that way. Maybe he can get it back but it's not looking good.
I was worried about Iheanacho in a lesser but similar way tbh. Not that he'd lost it but whether he'd lost 'something'. Although he didn't get long term injured, a year out from serious competitive football at 17 is a long time & even though he's been quality, & looked like one who would make it, the player I have seen so far has not been the same bloke who I watched in Nigeria's U17s. Until I saw the two goals from yesterday. THAT'S the bloke I watched! I've said it before but this kid at 100% is basically Pele at 18 imo. If he can reproduce it at senior level, we have our superstar. People have likened him to Sturridge but there is no comparison from what I've seen.

That turn where he left Thorpe so fucking far for dead that he needed Baldrick and his Time Team to dig him up, then flicked it through the other turd & passed it into the corner of the net; that's Pele. That's not raw pace like Owen had or body power like Rooney had, it's just genius.

Sparklehorse wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks for the excellent reports chaps. Pissed off I couldn't go.

Gutted about Pozo. I'm sure it's the timing of his two injuries which has done for him. I was worried it could happen that way. Maybe he can get it back but it's not looking good.
I was worried about Iheanacho in a lesser but similar way tbh. Not that he'd lost it but whether he'd lost 'something'. Although he didn't get long term injured, a year out from serious competitive football at 17 is a long time & even though he's been quality, & looked like one who would make it, the player I have seen so far has not been the same bloke who I watched in Nigeria's U17s. Until I saw the two goals from yesterday. THAT'S the bloke I watched! I've said it before but this kid at 100% is basically Pele at 18 imo. If he can reproduce it at senior level, we have our superstar. People have likened him to Sturridge but there is no comparison from what I've seen.

That turn where he left Thorpe so fucking far for dead that he needed Baldrick and his Time Team to dig him up, then flicked it through the other turd & passed it into the corner of the net; that's Pele. That's not raw pace like Owen had or body power like Rooney had, it's just genius.

It'd strange that you make the comparison with Pele because I live in Swansea and am naturally surrounded by Swans fans at work, a great bunch by the way, and I've been banging on about Nacho Man since the preseason last July, and I said he reminds me of Pele and they all looked at me a bit oddly, but do you know what he really does and I remember Pele well from the 1970 world cup.
His first goal on Saturday had genius written all over it, for someone that young to see that opportunity and not only see it but attempt it and execute it with such apparent ease sets him apart from the rest. I am more excited about this player than any I can ever remember and I really really hope he gets his opportunities next season. I will be having a sneaky tenner on him to win the golden boot because if he gets games he will score goals.

Im_Spartacus wrote:And to think we gave the rags shit about Phil Jones being the heir to Duncan Edwards, here we are, with some normally half sane posters comparing a kid to fucking Pele. Turn it in for fuck's sake!

In the best case scenario, Ian could have a youth tournament with an impact as good as tevez did, that was definitely arriving on the world stage with a bang!

Im_Spartacus wrote:And to think we gave the rags shit about Phil Jones being the heir to Duncan Edwards, here we are, with some normally half sane posters comparing a kid to fucking Pele. Turn it in for fuck's sake!

In the best case scenario, Ian could have a youth tournament with an impact as good as tevez did, that was definitely arriving on the world stage with a bang!

Sparklehorse wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks for the excellent reports chaps. Pissed off I couldn't go.

Gutted about Pozo. I'm sure it's the timing of his two injuries which has done for him. I was worried it could happen that way. Maybe he can get it back but it's not looking good.
I was worried about Iheanacho in a lesser but similar way tbh. Not that he'd lost it but whether he'd lost 'something'. Although he didn't get long term injured, a year out from serious competitive football at 17 is a long time & even though he's been quality, & looked like one who would make it, the player I have seen so far has not been the same bloke who I watched in Nigeria's U17s. Until I saw the two goals from yesterday. THAT'S the bloke I watched! I've said it before but this kid at 100% is basically Pele at 18 imo. If he can reproduce it at senior level, we have our superstar. People have likened him to Sturridge but there is no comparison from what I've seen.

That turn where he left Thorpe so fucking far for dead that he needed Baldrick and his Time Team to dig him up, then flicked it through the other turd & passed it into the corner of the net; that's Pele. That's not raw pace like Owen had or body power like Rooney had, it's just genius.

It'd strange that you make the comparison with Pele because I live in Swansea and am naturally surrounded by Swans fans at work, a great bunch by the way, and I've been banging on about Nacho Man since the preseason last July, and I said he reminds me of Pele and they all looked at me a bit oddly, but do you know what he really does and I remember Pele well from the 1970 world cup.
His first goal on Saturday had genius written all over it, for someone that young to see that opportunity and not only see it but attempt it and execute it with such apparent ease sets him apart from the rest. I am more excited about this player than any I can ever remember and I really really hope he gets his opportunities next season. I will be having a sneaky tenner on him to win the golden boot because if he gets games he will score goals.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Sparklehorse wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Thanks for the excellent reports chaps. Pissed off I couldn't go.

Gutted about Pozo. I'm sure it's the timing of his two injuries which has done for him. I was worried it could happen that way. Maybe he can get it back but it's not looking good.
I was worried about Iheanacho in a lesser but similar way tbh. Not that he'd lost it but whether he'd lost 'something'. Although he didn't get long term injured, a year out from serious competitive football at 17 is a long time & even though he's been quality, & looked like one who would make it, the player I have seen so far has not been the same bloke who I watched in Nigeria's U17s. Until I saw the two goals from yesterday. THAT'S the bloke I watched! I've said it before but this kid at 100% is basically Pele at 18 imo. If he can reproduce it at senior level, we have our superstar. People have likened him to Sturridge but there is no comparison from what I've seen.

That turn where he left Thorpe so fucking far for dead that he needed Baldrick and his Time Team to dig him up, then flicked it through the other turd & passed it into the corner of the net; that's Pele. That's not raw pace like Owen had or body power like Rooney had, it's just genius.

It'd strange that you make the comparison with Pele because I live in Swansea and am naturally surrounded by Swans fans at work, a great bunch by the way, and I've been banging on about Nacho Man since the preseason last July, and I said he reminds me of Pele and they all looked at me a bit oddly, but do you know what he really does and I remember Pele well from the 1970 world cup.
His first goal on Saturday had genius written all over it, for someone that young to see that opportunity and not only see it but attempt it and execute it with such apparent ease sets him apart from the rest. I am more excited about this player than any I can ever remember and I really really hope he gets his opportunities next season. I will be having a sneaky tenner on him to win the golden boot because if he gets games he will score goals.

Pele excelled in the 1970 World Cup, not the least because he had the complete freedom of playing off a fabulous centre-forward in Tostao (for me, Tostao was the unsung star of that tournament).

When Nacho does become a permanent fixture in the team, I hope he is used in that same way and given the same support, although where we would now find a modern day Tostao, is anyone's guess.