Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

[Ted Hughes]

Kompany is the best cb in the world, having a bad spell imo & could sign for any team he wanted if we let him go. His injury problems are my worry, not his form.

Denayer tends to play in the same position though.

No chance is the best in the world Ted. all CB'S on Saturday were superior. Vinny is a booking waiting to happen, As much as I love him, I have never seen him have a decent CL game. Top player great leader and love him BTW. A season of shite has to be a record.

Nonsense.

If Kompany was available, those teams would want to sign him, as would Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, rags & everybody else. All 4 of those players from Saturday would struggle in the Premier League & Piquet is the only one we would even consider.

If Kompany continues in this manner then fair enough, but Piquet was dropped by Barca not long ago after continuously making a twat of himself. At that time, the idea of him coming here would have been seen as a joke.

Players have bad spells. Vinny will be back. But the injuries are a different matter.

[Dubciteh]

Kompany is the best cb in the world, having a bad spell imo & could sign for any team he wanted if we let him go. His injury problems are my worry, not his form.

Denayer tends to play in the same position though.

No chance is the best in the world Ted. all CB'S on Saturday were superior. Vinny is a booking waiting to happen, As much as I love him, I have never seen him have a decent CL game. Top player great leader and love him BTW. A season of shite has to be a record.

Nonsense.

If Kompany was available, those teams would want to sign him, as would Real Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, rags & everybody else. All 4 of those players from Saturday would struggle in the Premier League & Piquet is the only one we would even consider.

If Kompany continues in this manner then fair enough, but Piquet was dropped by Barca not long ago after continuously making a twat of himself. At that time, the idea of him coming here would have been seen as a joke.

Players have bad spells. Vinny will be back. But the injuries are a different matter.

If he is so good why has he been out performed by Demi and Lescott in years gone by?

[Tokyo Blue]

If he is so good why has he been out performed by Demi and Lescott in years gone by?

Because he has not been fit.

[CTID Hants]

Players have bad spells. Vinny will be back. But the injuries are a different matter.

With the likes of Denayer coming through and rumours of us being linked with other CB's there will be no reason for a repeat of last season where we rushed Vinny back in December after 4 games out and him pulling his hamstring again resulting in him being out for a total of 10 games in that stretch. I too reckon him to be back stronger next season both physically & mentally.

[carl_feedthegoat]

If he is so good why has he been out performed by Demi and Lescott in years gone by?

Because he has not been fit.

I think we tend we abuse this excuse on his inept displays ,fitness has fuckall to do with him struggling to control a ball or to go diving in to give away another free kick outside the box.

Also , Vinnie was, at best, average last season....noone we have seems to play well along side him , they all look nervous and it showsl...in fact thats been proven with Mangala and MDM playign well together (I still think they have had more jam than hartleys with some of those displays) , but facts are facts and they have gotten us second place in the prem.

Kompany should not walk into the team and I hope Denayer takes his place from the off.....as hes a better player today than Kompany has been for the last 2 years.

[Ted Hughes]

If he is so good why has he been out performed by Demi and Lescott in years gone by?

Because he has not been fit.

I think we tend we abuse this excuse on his inept displays ,fitness has fuckall to do with him struggling to control a ball or to go diving in to give away another free kick outside the box.

Also , Vinnie was, at best, average last season....noone we have seems to play well along side him , they all look nervous and it showsl...in fact thats been proven with Mangala and MDM playign well together (I still think they have had more jam than hartleys with some of those displays) , but facts are facts and they have gotten us second place in the prem.

Kompany should not walk into the team and I hope Denayer takes his place from the off.....as hes a better player today than Kompany has been for the last 2 years.

There isn't a cb playing anywhere who doesn't do stuff which is shit. If comes with the job. The difference is that our cbs like Vinny, Lescott, & recently Demichelis & Mangala, have also shown they can be great defenders.

The best pairing was VK & Lescott & the problems started when people like Boateng, Savic & Nastasic were introduced, also Boyata thrown into ridiculous situations. People just expect Kompany to sail through it all, but he was clearly impaired by it & he was clearly a better player when Lescott played next to him. Since Lescott, he's rarely had a regular partner & has also been injured a lot, plus has been asked to play in a different style. Demichelis knows that style from Malaga, but was still a fucking disaster for 6 months & has actually been pretty dodgy recently.

Denayer has been playing this style under Rony Deila so if he does it in the Prem better than VK fair enough. But I know which one I'd have marking Benteke next season.

[Tokyo Blue]

If he is so good why has he been out performed by Demi and Lescott in years gone by?

Because he has not been fit.

I think we tend we abuse this excuse on his inept displays ,fitness has fuckall to do with him struggling to control a ball or to go diving in to give away another free kick outside the box.

Also , Vinnie was, at best, average last season....noone we have seems to play well along side him , they all look nervous and it showsl...in fact thats been proven with Mangala and MDM playign well together (I still think they have had more jam than hartleys with some of those displays) , but facts are facts and they have gotten us second place in the prem.

Kompany should not walk into the team and I hope Denayer takes his place from the off.....as hes a better player today than Kompany has been for the last 2 years.

I agree it could be seen as an excuse, but I also think if you know you are not 100%, it can play on your mind a bit and produce the kind of lapses in concentration we have seen from Vinny, who was, until the start of 2014, a reliable defender.

I 100% agree with the underlined bit though. You play the best you have got available.

[DoomMerchant]

But I know which one I'd have marking Benteke next season.

Hopefully you mean Ze fucking Mangleh.

cheers

[Hazy2]

Name a CL game where Vinny has looked Worlds best. We have done better without him. Sterling has him terrified ! just as Carlos Tevez had John Terry scared shitless. Vinny is a fine player no doubt, Yes we would sell him, that would STILL not make him the player some make him out to be. Demi is a better defender.

[Nigels Tackle]

with pele and gullit coming into the squad next season do we really need to buy anyone else?!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

with pele and gullit coming into the squad next season do we really need to buy anyone else?!

Love it.

[sheblue]

with pele and gullit coming into the squad next season do we really need to buy anyone else?!

Its not looking like it, is it...........but seriously i hope that not too much is expected of them.

[Sparklehorse]

with pele and gullit coming into the squad next season do we really need to buy anyone else?!

Love it.

Me too!!!!

[Ted Hughes]

Name a CL game where Vinny has looked Worlds best. We have done better without him. Sterling has him terrified ! just as Carlos Tevez had John Terry scared shitless. Vinny is a fine player no doubt, Yes we would sell him, that would STILL not make him the player some make him out to be. Demi is a better defender.

If I was to put a video of Demichelis' worst moments on here, not just for City, but for his other teams plus Argentina, it would make Phil Jones look like Bobby Moore.

Kompany is the best cb City have ever had, & possibly the best ever to play in the Prem. If he had been playing for Chelsea this season, people on here would be moaning about us not signing him. We have changed the way we play, changed his partners & he has been injured.

That's what's wrong with him.

[C & C]

If I was to put a video of Demichelis' worst moments on here, not just for City, but for his other teams plus Argentina, it would make Phil Jones look like Bobby Moore.

Kompany is the best cb City have ever had, & possibly the best ever to play in the Prem. If he had been playing for Chelsea this season, people on here would be moaning about us not signing him. We have changed the way we play, changed his partners & he has been injured.

That's what's wrong with him.

The bolded is what I'm concerned about. Since we have changed the way we play he has been more prone to mistakes. Can he get back to top form if we continue to play this way? Injury and rotation have played their part, but I'm not so sure the biggest issue isn't our desired playing style. I'm a big fan of Kompany and hope he comes through this and back to his best.

[Ted Hughes]

If I was to put a video of Demichelis' worst moments on here, not just for City, but for his other teams plus Argentina, it would make Phil Jones look like Bobby Moore.

Kompany is the best cb City have ever had, & possibly the best ever to play in the Prem. If he had been playing for Chelsea this season, people on here would be moaning about us not signing him. We have changed the way we play, changed his partners & he has been injured.

That's what's wrong with him.

The bolded is what I'm concerned about. Since we have changed the way we play he has been more prone to mistakes. Can he get back to top form if we continue to play this way? Injury and rotation have played their part, but I'm not so sure the biggest issue isn't our desired playing style. I'm a big fan of Kompany and hope he comes through this and back to his best.

The way we play, we should be working much harder to win the ball back, & passing it better, so Kompany etc don't have to do so much defending imo.

If Piquet & Mascherano were left stranded & unprotected as often as our cbs, they would struggle like fuck. Barca play 3 upfront but don't have the same holes appearing as we do. Solve that & VK etc will look a lot better imo. We are not doing what Pellegrini wants.

[C & C]

I won't disagree with that. But, all of our CB's are playing in the same system and Kompany has looked decisively worse than our other CB's over the last season.

As you say, "we should be working much harder to win the ball back, & passing it better, so Kompany etc don't have to do so much defending imo." -- then the system will be easier on whomever is at the back. That doesn't mean Kompany will fit better into it than others. And others may be more suited to play this system.

Kompany is at his best when the middle is clogged and attacks have to come from the wings. His positional sense is better and he can dominate aerially. He's probably at his worst defending the counterattack, admittedly a much harder thing to do.

[blues2win]

I wonder how comfortable Vinny is playing the Pellegrini way; a high line and always looking to nip in ahead and pinch the ball. It's risky and he hasn't got the pace if he fucks up. I suppose Mangala was bought because he has pace and could cover. Trouble is he had no pre season, it was a brand new faster League and he had to slot in to a defence which is badly protected and not playing well anyway.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't think the other defenders are better at defending counter attacks. Denayer may be. I think
people are forgetting just how well Kompany has played for City. One v one was often when he was at his most impressive. Nobody would have swapped him for Demichelis. There was a time when we won most games if he played & got beat if he didn't.

He is now being asked to come out & try to nick the ball or sometimes even follow the striker right to the halfway line & he sometimes gets caught between the two. The same thing constantly happens to Mangala but he's got lucky. Even Demichelis has got that horribly wrong on occasion in the last few games. When he first arrived he cost us about 5 goals getting turned at the halfway line. Nastasic was a disaster at it.

Vinny just needs a run in the team, fit, with a competent defensive mid unit in front of him.

[Hazy2]

I don't think the other defenders are better at defending counter attacks. Denayer may be. I think
people are forgetting just how well Kompany has played for City. One v one was often when he was at his most impressive. Nobody would have swapped him for Demichelis. There was a time when we won most games if he played & got beat if he didn't.

He is now being asked to come out & try to nick the ball or sometimes even follow the striker right to the halfway line & he sometimes gets caught between the two. The same thing constantly happens to Mangala but he's got lucky. Even Demichelis has got that horribly wrong on occasion in the last few games. When he first arrived he cost us about 5 goals getting turned at the halfway line. Nastasic was a disaster at it.

Vinny just needs a run in the team, fit, with a competent defensive mid unit in front of him.

29. You could not make it up Ted, oops you have. Have a nice summer, maybe like him you need a break. Defenders on show last Saturday were hardly seen as they just did the job, no fuss no slipping, diving in or losing a man... Or pointless Yellows. Like I said fine player but flawed as a true W.Class CB