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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:20 am

Moonchesteri wrote:Maybe we should just give the bloke a chance, eh?


don't be so fucking stupid!!!
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby kinkylola » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:35 am

personally, I think lescott is not a world class CB, but that isn't a slight against him, he's a good defender. What he is not is a leader on the field. That is obvious from the times he has played without kompany. Same for Nasty. If Demichelis is the same or even slightly worse than lescott in some objective sense, but is more of an on the field leader, or knows how to play with only 2 mids in front of him (again, nasty and lescott both guilty here) or whatever Pello's happens to do, then it's a good piece of business and it's going to help solidify us when kompany isn't around. That's an if, but those are the reasons that I can see Pello pushing this transfer through.

One thing everyone can agree on ... our defense without kompany (and maybe even with him) look terrible playing with yaya and ferny infront of them.

In the end, you either trust what Pello's doing or not. I'm not overwhelmed by the Demichelis signing, but use your imagination a little bit because there could be some solid reasoning behind it, and if it fails, there'll be more than enough ammo for the I told you so's to last well into the next manager.

Also it strikes me that Ted said awhile back that all the over the top negativity about Lescott has caused him to want to go to the other extreme just to show us all how ridiculous it is.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby aaron bond » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:48 am

kinkylola wrote:personally, I think lescott is not a world class CB, but that isn't a slight against him, he's a good defender. What he is not is a leader on the field. That is obvious from the times he has played without kompany. Same for Nasty. If Demichelis is the same or even slightly worse than lescott in some objective sense, but is more of an on the field leader, or knows how to play with only 2 mids in front of him (again, nasty and lescott both guilty here) or whatever Pello's happens to do, then it's a good piece of business and it's going to help solidify us when kompany isn't around. That's an if, but those are the reasons that I can see Pello pushing this transfer through.

One thing everyone can agree on ... our defense without kompany (and maybe even with him) look terrible playing with yaya and ferny infront of them.

In the end, you either trust what Pello's doing or not. I'm not overwhelmed by the Demichelis signing, but use your imagination a little bit because there could be some solid reasoning behind it, and if it fails, there'll be more than enough ammo for the I told you so's to last well into the next manager.

Also it strikes me that Ted said awhile back that all the over the top negativity about Lescott has caused him to want to go to the other extreme just to show us all how ridiculous it is.


You're right about Lescott - he isn't a leader. I said the same thing in other threads previously. But he is a very good partner to Kompany as they have proved when playing together. In our title winning season, Lescott was the better of the 2 for the majority of the season, and it amazes how many people have forgotten Kompany's indifferent performances in many games that season. Lescott didn't deserve to be dropped last season, especially for someone who's basic defensive skills aren't the best.

Like others, I'm not overly excited by the Demichelis signing, but he is experienced, and hopefully he can bring some leadership skills to the side if Kompany is out. It is very worrying how much our defence capitulates whenever Kompany doesn't play, and this isn't a new thing.

Furthermore, if Nastasic is going to become the world class defender so many on here like to believe, then having an experienced defender like Demichelis surely should help his development.

The question I have though is over Boyata. Why are we keeping him if we're not willing to play him when we're short of centre backs? Although his loan spells were not successful, he has always performed well for us when playing in the first team. If Pellegrini and the management team don't think he's good enough, why haven't we sold him?
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby john@staustell » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:12 am

How you guys can't see how dangerous Lescott is to us with the ball at his feet is beyond me. He just doesn't know what to do with it, is uncomfortable with it and cant pass it accurately when he does.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby kinkylola » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:34 am

john@staustell wrote:How you guys can't see how dangerous Lescott is to us with the ball at his feet is beyond me. He just doesn't know what to do with it, is uncomfortable with it and cant pass it accurately when he does.


I've never been comfortable with lescott's control ... but i honestly think that not being a defensive leader is more of a strike against him.

aaron wrote:You're right about Lescott - he isn't a leader. I said the same thing in other threads previously. But he is a very good partner to Kompany as they have proved when playing together. In our title winning season, Lescott was the better of the 2 for the majority of the season, and it amazes how many people have forgotten Kompany's indifferent performances in many games that season. Lescott didn't deserve to be dropped last season, especially for someone who's basic defensive skills aren't the best. - See more at: posting.php?mode=quote&f=119&p=563980#sthash.hPLDLNEb.dpuf


Lescott was in great form that season, but he had kompo there besides him most, if not all, of the time. It's impossible for us to know what the dynamic was there ... but it is obvious that out of all of our players, offense and defense, Kompany is probably the only on the field leader/organizer we have and without him lescott looks poor and so does nasty. CB's come in pairs, it's really rare to have an effective defense with 1 super CB and one that is absolutely shit. At the very least the 2 should compliment each other and I think that's exactly what happened in our title season. HOpefully we can get that back, but we need a plan for when kompany isn't around, and it isn't lescott & nasty.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby clippo22 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:46 am

Demichelis is not the batman city want, but he is the batman city need

He is an experienced leader who will bring calm and trust to the rest of our defence, he has the pedigree to make a few strikers wary of playing against him, and he knows pellers tactics inside out, he will help out introducing this new style of playing to the team and be a good mentor to nasty.

Also he has the perfect opportunity during the international break to spend time with lescott, Richards, Garcia and boyata seen as none of them are away with their national teams!

I know we're city fans but occasionally we can be optimistic!
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Colin the King » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:54 am

I'd say signing Demichelis is comparable with Hughes bringing in Bellamy and Mancini bringing in Vieira.

Many people, myself included, thought it was a huge waste of time and money bringing in Bellamy but he gave us a great option for 18 months or so, put in some fantastic performances and always had the right attitude. He was Hughes' right hand man in the dressing room and that's exactly what Demichelis will be for Pellegrini. Similarly with Vieira, for all intents and purposes he was finished as a player but he came in when necessary and played well, but more importantly was an elder figure in the dressing room.

IF Kompany keeps himself fit, Demichelis won't get a look in but his experience in the Champions' League and all his success at Bayern has to count for something. He's not the best in the world by a long shot but if it's a straight choice between him and having to see Garcia ever play CB again, I know who I'm choosing.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Slim » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:30 am

Or it could be compared to Hughes signing RSC and Mancini signing Scott Sinclair.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby zuricity » Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:25 pm

Slim wrote:Or it could be compared to Hughes signing RSC and Mancini signing Scott Sinclair.


Twice within 12 hours have i found myself pmsl with your quotes. Well done young man !
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Slim » Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:32 pm

zuricity wrote:
Slim wrote:Or it could be compared to Hughes signing RSC and Mancini signing Scott Sinclair.


Twice within 12 hours have i found myself pmsl with your quotes. Well done young man !


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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby zuricity » Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:19 pm

Slim wrote:
What was the other?


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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:57 pm

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
twosips wrote:There is absolutely no way Demichelis is better than Lescott. He's even slower and even more error prone. Not looking forward to this at all.


He IS better than Lescott FFS.

It doesn't matter if he fucks up ten headers per game, picks up nobody, gets skinned one v one 8 times out of 10, turns like a fucking battleship, is constantly out of position, hits hopeful long balls, fails to mark at set pieces etc etc, the point is; HE IS ALLOWED TO.

Lescott made a mistake during the game v Hull, & every one Lescott mistake counts for ten by Savic, Boateng, Garcia & all the other useless cunts that the same people have pedalled as being better than him, until even they could take it no more.

Nastasic pissed on Lescott Saturday; different class.


I thought I was pretty fair in my assessment of Lescott and did highlight that he was on his own defending, so that sarcastic general sweep shit can fuck off right now.

And if people are polarised against Lescott, maybe it's your dumb cunt essay length replies that say next to fucking nothing that has people against him.

You are so up your own arse around here these days, I wonder whether that's where you keep your high horse and your fucking soapbox as well.


I'm up my own arse ?

I was replying to twosips in case you didn't notice, you self important cunt.

Ive not even read your fucking post on the subject.

Mind your own fucking business.

But you can probably guess, I don't give a rat's cock whether you like or whether you aprove of what I post or not & none of your bullshit will work on me, so theres no fucking point in even going there.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Mase » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:22 pm

Is he better than Savic though?
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Risby » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:32 pm

Mase wrote:Is he better than Savic though?


He can't be worse surely.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:35 pm

Mase wrote:Is he better than Savic though?


I'm better than Savic.

Demichellis ?

Tbf, he was actually worse than Savic when he played for Argentina but in Spain, just about every 'best of' team has him either in it or a consideration. He has obviously done well.

But I know what I saw on some occasions, & it was really really bad. He has BIG fuckups here & there, & I'm talking jaw droppingly bad.

Hopefully we will see the good stuff.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby twosips » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:55 pm

I've seen the jaw-dropping fuck up stuff. It's seriously Bramble-esque. Terrifying.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby zuricity » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:35 pm

Slim wrote:
What was the other?


Btw, i just know that you are going to make a meal out of this.
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby zuricity » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:44 pm

Mase wrote:Is he better than Savic though?


In a very short word 'NO'
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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Michael Brookes » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:09 pm

Just watched his vid on the official site. I've done a complete u-turn and now like him. Oh and for some reason he kinda reminds me of the Jew Hunter


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Re: Demichelis Confirmed...

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:46 am

Colin the King wrote:I'd say signing Demichelis is comparable with Hughes bringing in Bellamy and Mancini bringing in Vieira.

Many people, myself included, thought it was a huge waste of time and money bringing in Bellamy but he gave us a great option for 18 months or so, put in some fantastic performances and always had the right attitude. He was Hughes' right hand man in the dressing room and that's exactly what Demichelis will be for Pellegrini. Similarly with Vieira, for all intents and purposes he was finished as a player but he came in when necessary and played well, but more importantly was an elder figure in the dressing room.

IF Kompany keeps himself fit, Demichelis won't get a look in but his experience in the Champions' League and all his success at Bayern has to count for something. He's not the best in the world by a long shot but if it's a straight choice between him and having to see Garcia ever play CB again, I know who I'm choosing.


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