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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby BlueinBosnia » Sun May 18, 2014 7:39 pm

zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Sorry, we were talking about 2 different things here. You're right, Sigurdsson, as an EEA Citizen does not need a work permit to work in the EU. However, I think he's counted as 'non-EU' for squad list purposes, although I am not sure on that.

On the flip side, both Switzerland and Liechtenstein impose quotas on EU Citizens working in their countries, which is what the UK would be able to do if it were to leave the EU. As a member of the EEA, however, it is not able to differentiate between EU Member States in regard to applying such a quota - therefore, a French national would have to be treated the same as a Spaniard, Maltese, Pole, German, whatever. Membership of the EEA does not by any means guarantee that EU Citizens would not require work permits, although (as in many countries) there would probably be a certain number of dedicated work permits for 'culturally significant' workers.


Sorry fella you are wrong. Switzerland does not have any quotas for EU countries since the acceptance of many agreements including ,for example Schengen. Free movement for EU Citizens .


Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby zuricity » Sun May 18, 2014 8:15 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.


no there is no limit to the number of EU citizens , they even get upto 5 year permits. People from India only get ,at the most a 1 year permit.

The recent vote ,to change the mass economic immigration with the EU does does not change anything either, since we haven't worked out how and what to change and nothing will happen before 2017.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby BlueinBosnia » Sun May 18, 2014 8:38 pm

zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.


no there is no limit to the number of EU citizens , they even get upto 5 year permits. People from India only get ,at the most a 1 year permit.

The recent vote ,to change the mass economic immigration with the EU does does not change anything either, since we haven't worked out how and what to change and nothing will happen before 2017.


Currently limited to 53,700 per year from the EU-17, plus additional quota for the EU-8: http://www.thelocal.ch/20130516/eu-citi ... nce-quotas

This quota can be indefinitely reaffirmed until the law changes.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Socrates » Mon May 19, 2014 4:24 am

BlueinBosnia wrote:
zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.


no there is no limit to the number of EU citizens , they even get upto 5 year permits. People from India only get ,at the most a 1 year permit.

The recent vote ,to change the mass economic immigration with the EU does does not change anything either, since we haven't worked out how and what to change and nothing will happen before 2017.


Currently limited to 53,700 per year from the EU-17, plus additional quota for the EU-8: http://www.thelocal.ch/20130516/eu-citi ... nce-quotas

This quota can be indefinitely reaffirmed until the law changes.


The fact it can be contemplated indicates that EEA membership does not guarantee freedom of labour. This isn't only a UKIPper threat, bear in mind the Tories keep threatening referendums and a Tory-UKIP coalition is not impossible in the future. Given their goals, the idea that wouldn't involve restrictions on labour freedom is fanciful!
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby zuricity » Mon May 19, 2014 4:41 am

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Currently limited to 53,700 per year from the EU-17, plus additional quota for the EU-8: http://www.thelocal.ch/20130516/eu-citi ... nce-quotas

This quota can be indefinitely reaffirmed until the law changes.


we've seen more than this number per year since the original introduction ,this clause was invoked last year, but is largely being ignored because of strong growth in the economy .
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon May 19, 2014 5:24 pm

Dupont says we, the fans, or the sponsors, should challenge this ruling & the judge would have no option but to suspend the sanctions until after the case is heard.

He also says the whole thing is completely illegal under Europea law, including the squad restrictions.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon May 19, 2014 8:10 pm

I've written a letter to my MP to see if he will get involved. I won't hold my breath.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon May 19, 2014 8:27 pm

I would have loved to see us go through the courts but our brothers with louder voices oh and Wenger wouldn't have gone near us had we won, IF there is a break away league in future they would have locked the gates.
As soon as our sanctions were put in place and all the bent crew got their wishes isn't it funny how they all started leaking details of transfer budgets and targets were. Even going as far as to trying 'hijack' City deals, they were very quiet about money while we were getting dealt with then once it all came out boom we've got 200 million to spend.


Basically they are all cunts.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon May 19, 2014 9:30 pm

Socrates wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.


no there is no limit to the number of EU citizens , they even get upto 5 year permits. People from India only get ,at the most a 1 year permit.

The recent vote ,to change the mass economic immigration with the EU does does not change anything either, since we haven't worked out how and what to change and nothing will happen before 2017.


Currently limited to 53,700 per year from the EU-17, plus additional quota for the EU-8: http://www.thelocal.ch/20130516/eu-citi ... nce-quotas

This quota can be indefinitely reaffirmed until the law changes.


The fact it can be contemplated indicates that EEA membership does not guarantee freedom of labour. This isn't only a UKIPper threat, bear in mind the Tories keep threatening referendums and a Tory-UKIP coalition is not impossible in the future. Given their goals, the idea that wouldn't involve restrictions on labour freedom is fanciful!


Crikey, Socs, that really would be the nightmare scenario to end all nightmare scenarios.

Given such obscene possibilities, you can't blame the Scots for wanting to become independent and, when they do, the sorry remnant of what is left of the UK would be subjected to a permanent, right-wing, quasi democratic dictatorship.

Perhaps in such circumstances, the North of England ought to apply to become part of Scotland which might be interesting, in football terms, as City, Liverpool etc would become eligible to play in the SPL, leaving Chelsea and Arsenal to fight it out as champions of a Southern England 'Mickey-Mouse' League.

Arsenic Whinger might actually like and approve of that.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Socrates » Mon May 19, 2014 9:45 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Socrates wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Me and the Swiss government it would seem: https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/home/t ... -efta.html

Quotas in place since June 2013 for all of the EU, initially for 1 year, but set to be extended after February's referendum (google "Swiss popular initiative "Against mass immigration""), and possibly made permanent within 3 years.


no there is no limit to the number of EU citizens , they even get upto 5 year permits. People from India only get ,at the most a 1 year permit.

The recent vote ,to change the mass economic immigration with the EU does does not change anything either, since we haven't worked out how and what to change and nothing will happen before 2017.


Currently limited to 53,700 per year from the EU-17, plus additional quota for the EU-8: http://www.thelocal.ch/20130516/eu-citi ... nce-quotas

This quota can be indefinitely reaffirmed until the law changes.


The fact it can be contemplated indicates that EEA membership does not guarantee freedom of labour. This isn't only a UKIPper threat, bear in mind the Tories keep threatening referendums and a Tory-UKIP coalition is not impossible in the future. Given their goals, the idea that wouldn't involve restrictions on labour freedom is fanciful!


Crikey, Socs, that really would be the nightmare scenario to end all nightmare scenarios.

Given such obscene possibilities, you can't blame the Scots for wanting to become independent and, when they do, the sorry remnant of what is left of the UK would be subjected to a permanent, right-wing, quasi democratic dictatorship.

Perhaps in such circumstances, the North of England ought to apply to become part of Scotland which might be interesting, in football terms, as City, Liverpool etc would become eligible to play in the SPL, leaving Chelsea and Arsenal to fight it out as champions of a Southern England 'Mickey-Mouse' League.

Arsenic Whinger might actually like and approve of that.


Share your horrors but the polls do suggest the Scots aren't voting yes...
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby john68 » Tue May 20, 2014 4:09 am

lets all have a disco wrote:I would have loved to see us go through the courts but our brothers with louder voices oh and Wenger wouldn't have gone near us had we won, IF there is a break away league in future they would have locked the gates.

Basically they are all cunts.


You are bang on the money about a breakaway Euro Super League.

Despite the denials of the rags and the half denial of KHR regarding talks within the ECA, a Euro Super League is currently,actively being discussed and has been for quite a while. Their preference is that UeFA would run it, (as happened the last time with the restructured European Cup to Champions League). Twenty invited clubs, (City seem to remain outside at this point), are looking at around 2018, when the current ECA/UeFA agreement finishes.

...and to bring you up to date...the G14 is DEAD...or at least moved on. Some clubs have been dumped and another added. We are now dealing with a G9....Bayern, Milan, Barca, Real, Inter, Arsenal, L'pool, the rags and Chelsea. It's worth noting that English clubs make up just under half of the new power/control group, which may explain why we are getting such a raw deal.

I am still digging round the murky depths of this corrupt shite to keep a watch on the fukkers.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue May 20, 2014 7:09 am

john68 wrote:
You are bang on the money about a breakaway Euro Super League.

Despite the denials of the rags and the half denial of KHR regarding talks within the ECA, a Euro Super League is currently,actively being discussed and has been for quite a while. Their preference is that UeFA would run it, (as happened the last time with the restructured European Cup to Champions League). Twenty invited clubs, (City seem to remain outside at this point), are looking at around 2018, when the current ECA/UeFA agreement finishes.

...and to bring you up to date...the G14 is DEAD...or at least moved on. Some clubs have been dumped and another added. We are now dealing with a G9....Bayern, Milan, Barca, Real, Inter, Arsenal, L'pool, the rags and Chelsea. It's worth noting that English clubs make up just under half of the new power/control group, which may explain why we are getting such a raw deal.

I am still digging round the murky depths of this corrupt shite to keep a watch on the fukkers.


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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 20, 2014 9:17 am

If there was a superleague, there would have to be be sponsors for it....
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby blues2win » Tue May 20, 2014 9:34 am

If such a league was set up City would be part of it. Also to include both Milan clubs and leave out Juventus would be ridiculous. Personally I doubt this will come off but we'll see. UEFA's arrogance may ultimately be their undoing.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue May 20, 2014 9:43 am

Ted Hughes wrote:If there was a superleague, there would have to be be sponsors for it....



I'm sure John's G9 would be able to whip up enough sponsors to make it VERY viable without us.

We could bring the biggest sponsor to the table but if none of them cunts want to play us we're knackered.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Wonderwall » Tue May 20, 2014 9:50 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If there was a superleague, there would have to be be sponsors for it....



I'm sure John's G9 would be able to whip up enough sponsors to make it VERY viable without us.

We could bring the biggest sponsor to the table but if none of them cunts want to play us we're knackered.



then we set up our own superleague

City
Spurs
Everton
Atletico Madrid
Athletic Bilbao
Valencia
Juventus
Roma
Napoli
Borussia Dortmund
Shalke 04
Leverkusen
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Porto
Sporting Lisbon
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue May 20, 2014 9:54 am

Wonderwall wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If there was a superleague, there would have to be be sponsors for it....



I'm sure John's G9 would be able to whip up enough sponsors to make it VERY viable without us.

We could bring the biggest sponsor to the table but if none of them cunts want to play us we're knackered.



then we set up our own superleague

City
Spurs
Everton
Atletico Madrid
Athletic Bilbao
Valencia
Juventus
Roma
Napoli
Borussia Dortmund
Shalke 04
Leverkusen
Benfica
Porto
Sporting Lisbon
Celtic
Rangers
Ajax
Feyenoord
Galatasaray



So the Europa league then?
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Socrates » Tue May 20, 2014 10:08 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
So the Europa league then?


Awesome, you said in five words what I was about to try to articulate
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue May 20, 2014 10:23 am

Socrates wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
So the Europa league then?


Awesome, you said in five words what I was about to try to articulate


I'm sure Feyenoord-Gala will get the networks scrambling for the rights.
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