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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:40 pm
by City64
Wooders wrote:
City64 wrote:So in a nutshell UEFA have got wind the court case isn't going too well .......


There is a strong possibility their legal team has expressed concern that their case isn't watertight and they have entered damage limitation mode

Certainly looking that way .

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:45 pm
by freshie
Wooders wrote:
City64 wrote:So in a nutshell UEFA have got wind the court case isn't going too well .......


There is a strong possibility their legal team has expressed concern that their case isn't watertight and they have entered damage limitation mode


It's got to be this. Why else would they backtrack? Cunts

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:47 pm
by City64
http://www.lawinsport.com/articles/item ... are-we-now

Just got this link from Twitter , seems FFP court case decision due in a couple of days ......

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:52 pm
by carl_feedthegoat
If its deemed illegal I hope we sue the cunts for fuckign zillions........also , as for QPR, what fuckign world of fairness is there when you want to take away 58 million pounds off a team thats been relegated ?? if thats not hanging someone by the neck then I dont know what it.........Fair play ????? GO FUCK YOURSELF.

This whole FFP is an absolute fuckign corrupt disgrace to protect the old guard..even a nun would call them corrupt cunts!

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:59 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
City64 wrote:http://www.lawinsport.com/articles/item/financial-fair-play-and-the-striani-complaint-where-are-we-now

Just got this link from Twitter , seems FFP court case decision due in a couple of days ......

Nice one. Interesting read, that.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:19 pm
by City64
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
City64 wrote:http://www.lawinsport.com/articles/item/financial-fair-play-and-the-striani-complaint-where-are-we-now

Just got this link from Twitter , seems FFP court case decision due in a couple of days ......

Nice one. Interesting read, that.


Tried to download another link from a Belgian sports journalist but it wont work . just confirming case decision is imminent .

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:32 pm
by MilnersJaw
As much as bullshit ffp I just can't count on those uefa cunts losing. EU courts are just as bent as Fifa and uefa.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 11:46 pm
by PrezIke
Im_Spartacus wrote:So do the Emiratis and Qataris get their £40m back


my thoughts exactly.

do we also get to have a larger squad in champions league next season as well?

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:08 am
by Ted Hughes
PrezIke wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:So do the Emiratis and Qataris get their £40m back


my thoughts exactly.

do we also get to have a larger squad in champions league next season as well?


And send a letter to Wenger, Mourinho, Talkshite & any other similar cunts, that any more implications of 'cheating' will be dealt with in court.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:28 am
by carl_feedthegoat
My stance has changed tonight with the news that owners will probably be allowed to donate whatever they want into a club---------If this turns out to be true then I could not give two shits if we spend 500 million on Messi, Bale and whoever else takes our fancy....I just want to see the smug cunt faces at the fucking MUNCHENHAUSENS in Germany and across the way at the swamp when we blow them all out of the water again with massive signings.

In fact I will piss Vodka for a fortnight laughing my cock off.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:54 am
by Dameerto
We should have blown this shit out of the water when they first fined us.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:40 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:26 am
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Could be they are using this, as well as the complaints of a lot of other clubs, as a reason to ditch the investment cap. Don't forget, the big clubs run UEFA, not the other way around, and most won't be happy with this.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:41 am
by gillie
Let's face it in any other business this bollox would never have had a chance to be implemented it breaches so many business rules it is plainly corrupt and only exists because UEFA don't run European football the big club cartel do.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:47 am
by Ted Hughes
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Could be they are using this, as well as the complaints of a lot of other clubs, as a reason to ditch the investment cap. Don't forget, the big clubs run UEFA, not the other way around, and most won't be happy with this.


The big clubs in England & Bayern Munich won't be happy. Not sure Barca & Real Madrid will be arsed & both the Milan clubs who asked for it will now be against it. Could easily be the case that Barca & Real have seen the money the Prem clubs are getting & decided that having City fuck Utd up the arse for the next 50 years is preferable to having them running the show re transfers.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:12 am
by Chinners
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:05 am
by Im_Spartacus
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Could be they are using this, as well as the complaints of a lot of other clubs, as a reason to ditch the investment cap. Don't forget, the big clubs run UEFA, not the other way around, and most won't be happy with this.


The big clubs in England & Bayern Munich won't be happy. Not sure Barca & Real Madrid will be arsed & both the Milan clubs who asked for it will now be against it. Could easily be the case that Barca & Real have seen the money the Prem clubs are getting & decided that having City fuck Utd up the arse for the next 50 years is preferable to having them running the show re transfers.


It depends, I suppose on just how much they themselves are going to lose on the new TV deal. I suspect it won't be very much, and they could just work a little bit harder to make it up in other ways but still, such a change would require a majority of the top ECA clubs to approve wouldn't it?

The BIG risk of allowing FFP to relax now the likes of City and PSG are in, is that it could now allow the very characters in Russia and the Middle-East they wanted to deter, to take over some of the bigger clubs, or even smaller clubs and act irresponsibly, which seems crazy seeing as preventing that was allegedly the entire point of FFP in the first place!

Dubai's elite still has no significant football investment, and with the relaxation I would expect it would only be a matter of time......I wonder if the relaxation being pondered is because some are queueing up to take over big clubs like the rags and plough a fortune in, and the likes of the Glazers have found they can get a higher price from people like this but are currently prevented from selling to them

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:27 am
by Ted Hughes
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Could be they are using this, as well as the complaints of a lot of other clubs, as a reason to ditch the investment cap. Don't forget, the big clubs run UEFA, not the other way around, and most won't be happy with this.


The big clubs in England & Bayern Munich won't be happy. Not sure Barca & Real Madrid will be arsed & both the Milan clubs who asked for it will now be against it. Could easily be the case that Barca & Real have seen the money the Prem clubs are getting & decided that having City fuck Utd up the arse for the next 50 years is preferable to having them running the show re transfers.


It depends, I suppose on just how much they themselves are going to lose on the new TV deal. I suspect it won't be very much, and they could just work a little bit harder to make it up in other ways but still, such a change would require a majority of the top ECA clubs to approve wouldn't it?

The BIG risk of allowing FFP to relax now the likes of City and PSG are in, is that it could now allow the very characters in Russia and the Middle-East they wanted to deter, to take over some of the bigger clubs, or even smaller clubs and act irresponsibly, which seems crazy seeing as preventing that was allegedly the entire point of FFP in the first place!

Dubai's elite still has no significant football investment, and with the relaxation I would expect it would only be a matter of time......I wonder if the relaxation being pondered is because some are queueing up to take over big clubs like the rags and plough a fortune in, and the likes of the Glazers have found they can get a higher price from people like this but are currently prevented from selling to them


I think it's likely that the rags will get taken over one day, but humorously enough, the last two years interference by ffp on City's progress, & boost to the rags, has probably given the Glasers fucking years of plundering Utd before they need to sell. Which is getting funnier right now, the more I think about it.

I don't see that ffp has advantaged Real & Barca at all as they have the pulling power anyway, plus AC & Inter have found it's had the opposite effect on them, Monaco, no help, PSG, City, Dortmund, who has it helped ? Does it help Alax or PSV not to have City bid more money than the rags, or Everton etc here ?

Bayern Munich, Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool. Who else ? Imo, this whole thing was engineered by those clubs, but Berlusconi & that cunt from Inter swayed it. Now they don't want it, I recon there is probably little support for it. The fans of the mid table clubs here have now seen through it.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:41 am
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:AC Milan cry foul and UEFA changes it's stance. Seems the Itis do still hold sway with UEFA.

Could be they are using this, as well as the complaints of a lot of other clubs, as a reason to ditch the investment cap. Don't forget, the big clubs run UEFA, not the other way around, and most won't be happy with this.


The big clubs in England & Bayern Munich won't be happy. Not sure Barca & Real Madrid will be arsed & both the Milan clubs who asked for it will now be against it. Could easily be the case that Barca & Real have seen the money the Prem clubs are getting & decided that having City fuck Utd up the arse for the next 50 years is preferable to having them running the show re transfers.

I don't think Real Madrid have been a driving force behind this anyhow. Maybe Barcelona have. But they are going to have to share their TV money more equitably in their new deal so that could play a part in their thinking on FFP.

Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:42 am
by Wooders
Im_Spartacus wrote:
The BIG risk of allowing FFP to relax now the likes of City and PSG are in, is that it could now allow the very characters in Russia and the Middle-East they wanted to deter, to take over some of the bigger clubs, or even smaller clubs and act irresponsibly, which seems crazy seeing as preventing that was allegedly the entire point of FFP in place !!


They wouldn't be able to spend loads of money and in-debt the club so in that respect ffp would work