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Re: Kinkladze

Postby City64 » Thu May 02, 2013 7:16 pm

Kinky was very very special on his day , problem was he had more shit games than good ones.

Ali Benarbia was much more influential for us at a time when we needed it , absolute gem of a player ...... legend !
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri May 03, 2013 12:02 am

City64 wrote:Kinky was very very special on his day , problem was he had more shit games than good ones.

Ali Benarbia was much more influential for us at a time when we needed it , absolute gem of a player ...... legend !


The thing with Kinkladze is that we'll never know if he'd have stood out as much in a good side (such as the one we have now) or looked a bit lost. I imagine the latter, as he went to a good Ajax side and did shit.

I think the fact that we were poor-to-awful for most of the nineties and noughties made us (as fans) cut exciting players too much slack, even if their attitude was poor at times. Elano and Robinho definitely fall into this bracket, and I'd put Kinkladze in there too.
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Mase » Fri May 03, 2013 6:50 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
The thing with Kinkladze is that we'll never know if he'd have stood out as much in a good side (such as the one we have now) or looked a bit lost. I imagine the latter, as he went to a good Ajax side and did shit.

I think the fact that we were poor-to-awful for most of the nineties and noughties made us (as fans) cut exciting players too much slack, even if their attitude was poor at times. Elano and Robinho definitely fall into this bracket, and I'd put Kinkladze in there too.


Robinho was quality as well. I think he got a lot of unfair stick. Every away ground he home fans were on his back chanting about him. It wasn't his game to do what Tevez and Aguero do and run his bollocks off until he can't breathe. I think if he did that he'd have lost part of his game. He was still out top scorer in his first season over here coming off the left side of an attacking three.
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Cit.revenge » Fri May 03, 2013 6:52 am

ant london wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:He is from Gorgia isin't ? I remember one more great player Avaladze or is it Avaradzle he was also start in Ajax or Psv and then gone with wind somwhere.



Yeah he was a foreigner.....and I really cannot stand foreigners....or spastics as I am such a xenophobe and scope-o-phobe. I didn't like him at all, not a patch on someone English like Kevin Horlock ;-)

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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Mike J » Fri May 03, 2013 9:36 am

At ajax wasnt he played out of position the majority of the time? Also at city he could get away with doing fuck all when he didnt have the ball, that was never gonna happen at ajax

Ive never understood when people say 'yeh but he didnt like tackling'. Since when was that his job? He was a fucking great player and should probably left us earlier than he did. I have the 'Perfect 10' book and it says in theremost top teams were after him.
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri May 03, 2013 9:39 am

Mase wrote:
Robinho was quality as well. I think he got a lot of unfair stick. Every away ground he home fans were on his back chanting about him. It wasn't his game to do what Tevez and Aguero do and run his bollocks off until he can't breathe. I think if he did that he'd have lost part of his game. He was still out top scorer in his first season over here coming off the left side of an attacking three.


I agree to an extent (plus more things you try 'come off' when you try them whilst playing alongside better players). But you surely must've got the impression that he just couldn't be arsed at times; the game away at Everton at the start of 2010 is the one that sticks in the mind. The idea that he wasn't arsed was given further weight by his ill discipline (such as when he took an unsanctioned trip home from our training base in the Canaries) and he made a fool of the club one too many times.

Fortunately, he was the last mercurial player who ever got cut too much slack. Tevez came back on our terms and has been awesome ever since.

I remember hearing a story in around 1997 about Kinky having become a bit too big for his boots and refusing to train in the official club gear, insisting on wearing his own. Does anyone else remember this?
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri May 03, 2013 10:53 am

Cit.revenge wrote:Oh fuck off teen like obsession.U see u have problem if u don't u would leave it be at list on this topic .


Don't waste your time with this racist cunthole. He also hates words and typing so if you do engage with him use a lot of words and type lengthy responses next time.

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Re: Kinkladze

Postby City64 » Fri May 03, 2013 3:06 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
City64 wrote:Kinky was very very special on his day , problem was he had more shit games than good ones.

Ali Benarbia was much more influential for us at a time when we needed it , absolute gem of a player ...... legend !


The thing with Kinkladze is that we'll never know if he'd have stood out as much in a good side (such as the one we have now) or looked a bit lost. I imagine the latter, as he went to a good Ajax side and did shit.

I think the fact that we were poor-to-awful for most of the nineties and noughties made us (as fans) cut exciting players too much slack, even if their attitude was poor at times. Elano and Robinho definitely fall into this bracket, and I'd put Kinkladze in there too.



Fare point well made ! Kinky was also a bit of a fat cunt which tells us a lot about his attitude aswell . There were however some very very special moments from him in a very very awfull period for MCFC and us fans.
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sat May 04, 2013 2:30 am

City64 wrote:
Fare point well made ! Kinky was also a bit of a fat cunt which tells us a lot about his attitude aswell . There were however some very very special moments from him in a very very awfull period for MCFC and us fans.


Exactly. But I've never bought into the idea that we were lucky to have him. In fact, from 1996-1998 at leat, we'd have been better NOT trying to build around him.
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Re: Kinkladze

Postby Mase » Sat May 04, 2013 5:21 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Exactly. But I've never bought into the idea that we were lucky to have him. In fact, from 1996-1998 at leat, we'd have been better NOT trying to build around him.


I remember being told at the time as a kid that in training sometimes they built a circle with cones and told Kinky he wasn't allowed to move out of the circle during one of the training matches to try and encourage everyone else not to rely on him so much.
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