Chelsea sack DI Matteo

[freshie]

Even if Chelsea do get Pep in they are still taking a huge gamble. Ok pep was very successful at Barca (think he won something like 16 trophies) but lets not forget he had the best players in the world at his disposal and was in a league akin to the SPL, ie dominated by 2 teams, with not much competition outside of Real Madrid. He might need time to find his feet in the Premiership and to impart his footballing philosophy on the club, which could be his downfall under an owner for whom patience cannot be counted as one of his virtues

[Ted Hughes]

Even if Chelsea do get Pep in they are still taking a huge gamble. Ok pep was very successful at Barca (think he won something like 16 trophies) but lets not forget he had the best players in the world at his disposal and was in a league akin to the SPL, ie dominated by 2 teams, with not much competition outside of Real Madrid. He might need time to find his feet in the Premiership and to impart his footballing philosophy on the club, which could be his downfall under an owner for whom patience cannot be counted as one of his virtues

This.

It could be that he takes to the Premier League like a duck to water but it could take him 5 years, 4 of which he won't get at Chelsea & 3.5 of which he wouldn't get at City . If I was Guardiola I'd rather go to a penny pinching club like Arsenal or the rags.

[Blue Since 76]

Absolute madness, wonder what odds you could have got on him being the first.

50/1 apparently. Reckon Roman stuck a couple of million on to cover his losses

The bookies should just make all Chelsea managers evens for the sack from the day they start

[Esky]

Seems a very drastic move if they've not got someone of CL standard willing to work their long term.

Sky Sports Understand called it earlier.

[london blue 2]

Rather ironic that Twitter is full of "experts" in the media and football condemning Abramovic for appointing his 9th manager in his 9 years of ownership.

In those 9 years of "turmoil" Chelsea have won 3 Prem Lge titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and a Champions Lge.

If there's no Roman, there isnt all that success either, and the previous incumbent was Ken Bates - in the cold light of day which of the two do you think Chelsea fans will look back on in history more fondly?

To be fair mate a lot of those experts have said that he methods have still resulted in various trophies. I think it's just they feel (rightly so) that its harsh.

[Mike J]

I dont know why any manager would want to work for that bloke. Although im sure pep will go there if he is offered mega money.

Im still unsure as to how he will do elsewhere. Sure he won alot at barca put he did inherit arguably the best team to ever play the game! If they get him and he fails chelsea are fucked, where would they turn then

[Ted Hughes]

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/ ... rrent.html

According to LMA list of longest serving managers, Bob is now 6th in the Prem, 14th in total.

26th in the overall list is Ferguson's son & he, plus all the rest below him are on 1 season or less!

So there are only 25 managers in the leagues who have been at their clubs for more than one season!

[Chinners]

Chelsea have won 10 shinny's in as many years so I reckon they are regarded as just a bigger threat by the rags as/than us .... tinted blue spec syndronne is alive and well

[Ted Hughes]

Chelsea have won 10 shinny's in as many years so I reckon they are regarded as just a bigger threat by the rags as/than us .... tinted blue spec syndronne is alive and well

So the players & manager, their perormance in the league & finishing position aren't the main consideration then, just the name of the Club ?

[london blue 2]

I dont know why any manager would want to work for that bloke. Although im sure pep will go there if he is offered mega money.

you've answered your own question there mate.

[Chinners]

Chelsea have won 10 shinny's in as many years so I reckon they are regarded as just a bigger threat by the rags as/than us .... tinted blue spec syndronne is alive and well

So the players & manager, their perormance in the league & finishing position aren't the main consideration then, just the name of the Club ?

Of course they are all important Ted and they they lead to the bottom line which is that success is judged in the main by winning trophies, plain and simple

by Goaters 103 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:48 am

Rather ironic that Twitter is full of "experts" in the media and football condemning Abramovic for appointing his 9th manager in his 9 years of ownership.

In those 9 years of "turmoil" Chelsea have won 3 Prem Lge titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and a Champions Lge.

If there's no Roman, there isnt all that success either, and the previous incumbent was Ken Bates - in the cold light of day which of the two do you think Chelsea fans will look back on in history more fondly?

Bang on Goater

[Ted Hughes]

Chelsea have won 10 shinny's in as many years so I reckon they are regarded as just a bigger threat by the rags as/than us .... tinted blue spec syndronne is alive and well

So the players & manager, their perormance in the league & finishing position aren't the main consideration then, just the name of the Club ?

Of course they are all important Ted and they they lead to the bottom line which is that success is judged in the main by winning trophies, plain and simple

by Goaters 103 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:48 am

Rather ironic that Twitter is full of "experts" in the media and football condemning Abramovic for appointing his 9th manager in his 9 years of ownership.

In those 9 years of "turmoil" Chelsea have won 3 Prem Lge titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and a Champions Lge.

If there's no Roman, there isnt all that success either, and the previous incumbent was Ken Bates - in the cold light of day which of the two do you think Chelsea fans will look back on in history more fondly?

Bang on Goater

And if Abramovic had not kept fucking about with managers, it would be 6 or 7 titles rather than 3.


Just had a look on Bluemoon & they are saying Rafa is in the frame.

[Chinners]

We will never know if they would or would not have thou. Football (in general) doesn't work like that, just ask Arsenal fans

[Rag_hater]

[quote="Cocacolajojo"]To echo Carl's (at least I think it was his) sentiment: Teams like Chelsea and Real Madrid are the ultimate proof that with a lot of cash, there's no need for stability. I mean, they've had 6 managers and it's brought them constant qualifications to the Champion's League as well as the play offs, one league win and they've been runners up twice, three FA-cups, one final in the league cup and two finals in the Champions league of which they won one. That's an amazing haul from 5 years and they've not had any stability what so ever.





My feelings aswell.

[Beefymcfc]

When you've got such quality players, the manager can become somewhat, a hinderance. Although RDM led them to the CL, what has to be remembered is where they finished in the league. The CL is a lucky dip in many ways, as we've found out over the last 2 seasons, and by winning it, it did paper over the cracks. Although, it was no mean feat in itself.

I think everybody knew RDM was just a stand-in, it was just a matter of time. Their early run, with so many new players, was always going to come to an end and now with the thought of actually going out of the CL, RA realised he had to take action. Hell knows, I would.

[Ted Hughes]

Just sunk low enough to switch on Talkshite for the 1st time since last season, & a Spanish journo said they all recon in Spain, it's Benitez. He is on a plane now, from Abu Dhabi (!!!) & cancelled some appointment apparently.

Journo also thanked City publicly on behalf of Spanish journos for their treatment in Manchester (giving access to Silva etc).

[carl_feedthegoat]

Chelsea have won 10 shinny's in as many years so I reckon they are regarded as just a bigger threat by the rags as/than us .... tinted blue spec syndronne is alive and well

So the players & manager, their perormance in the league & finishing position aren't the main consideration then, just the name of the Club ?

Of course they are all important Ted and they they lead to the bottom line which is that success is judged in the main by winning trophies, plain and simple

by Goaters 103 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:48 am

Rather ironic that Twitter is full of "experts" in the media and football condemning Abramovic for appointing his 9th manager in his 9 years of ownership.

In those 9 years of "turmoil" Chelsea have won 3 Prem Lge titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and a Champions Lge.

If there's no Roman, there isnt all that success either, and the previous incumbent was Ken Bates - in the cold light of day which of the two do you think Chelsea fans will look back on in history more fondly?

Bang on Goater

And if Abramovic had not kept fucking about with managers, it would be 6 or 7 titles rather than 3.


Just had a look on Bluemoon & they are saying Rafa is in the frame.

Its always "nice" to have the same manager at a club but as I said ages ago money makes success regardless of how many managers you chop and change.
The facts speak for themseleves Ted (Chelsea have won 3 Prem Lge titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and a Champions Lge)...there is no real argument against .....as for the drunken tramp , hes a one off and cannot be used as an example.

[Cocacolajojo1]

Just sunk low enough to switch on Talkshite for the 1st time since last season, & a Spanish journo said they all recon in Spain, it's Benitez. He is on a plane now, from Abu Dhabi (!!!) & cancelled some appointment apparently.

Journo also thanked City publicly on behalf of Spanish journos for their treatment in Manchester (giving access to Silva etc).

If Benitez is the new appointment, I really hope Chelsea doesn't switch to a stable approach. He slowly, slowly dismantled Liverpool's squad and that CL-win of his really managed to hide a large degree of incompetence.

[BobKowalski]

The Abramovich model brings success but does require sustained investment in players and tends to stifle organic growth through the youth system as the manager has no room for error or experimentation given any sequence of poor results or lack of meaningful trophies at season end guarantees you the sack. This is the polar opposite of Ferguson's position where time is given to develop and blood young players and indeed it is part of the club's philosophy to do so. Chelsea did try and adopt this approach but it was ditched when Abramovich lost patience and bought Torres for £50m. Chelsea have a short term approach and provided the money is pumped in it will bring some success. With a bit of patience it would have brought more success but its Abramovich's money and he could give a fuck what people think anyway so fair enough.

City are not interested in this approach and said so right from the start. They forced rapid growth to be competitive short term but recognise that stability with the right people in charge will produce natural growth in the medium to long term. It has always been a twin track approach and the difference in philosophy between Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour could not be more marked. The fact that no one seems to notice is bizarre. The fact that in 4 years City have made one managerial appointment compared to Liverpool's 2 in two years or Abramovich's 9 in 9 years is a pretty big fucking clue as to how City run their affairs but perhaps that is too subtle for the media to grasp.

Personally I like our approach as it doesn't make us look like we are run by SMERSH - although the idea of dispatching managers into shark infested pools with a softly spoken '...failure is not tolerated Number 3" is kind of cool.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Holy fucking shit. Didn't see that coming so soon.