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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Nick » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:15 pm

No comparisons to Best? I like the kinki one myself, it was my mum and dad that mentioned Best, think its just the hair.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby john@staustell » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:17 pm

The whole match changed as soon as Ade's arse hit the bench. Bit simplistic to say he 'should have started' because a fresh, sharp Silva totally flummoxed the tired Blackpool team who had got into a system blocking our first formation. Maybe if Silva had started we would've been up against the same barriers.

But that's what our current status and dosh allows us to do - bring on players like Silva, Richards and Vieira when the oppo are on their last legs.

Certainly should start against Poznan though - unless Bobby saves him as a special treat for Arsene Whinger!
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Nick » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:49 pm

john@staustell wrote:The whole match changed as soon as Ade's arse hit the bench. Bit simplistic to say he 'should have started' because a fresh, sharp Silva totally flummoxed the tired Blackpool team who had got into a system blocking our first formation. Maybe if Silva had started we would've been up against the same barriers.

But that's what our current status and dosh allows us to do - bring on players like Silva, Richards and Vieira when the oppo are on their last legs.

Certainly should start against Poznan though - unless Bobby saves him as a special treat for Arsene Whinger!



Hm I would save him for the arse. I said today I could honestly see Mancini keeping ade for the best against arsenal, then maybe he can start on thursday.

Mancini is stubborn and seems to do the opposite to what the media and players expect. I can see him holding ade back to get him more and more motivated on sunday. He did this at the emirates.

Re: thursday, I think RSC deserves a chance at some point
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:06 am

Silva is really looking like he'll be something special for us. I still don't think we'll see the absolute best of him til next season personally but even so, he'll be fucking good this one & get better & better.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby getdressedmctavish » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:37 am

As ever all or nothing on here. He was anonymous v Toon. The game was screamin for him after 10 mins today with two donkeys in mf and Bpool playing round them. Lovely goal and very early days Elano, but we will still struggle to accomodate him unless he can bring more to his game from the start.At the moment Milner is ahead of him, which says it all, really.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby john68 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:47 am

That is a very harsh critique mate but i suppose we all see things i our own way.
For me Silva has needed more time than others to physically adjust to the Prem. Maybe it's his slight physique or just that he needed to adjust to the different pace and physicality of the English game.
What was noticeable even in those early days was his positioning and his vision. it was obvious that even if the body was lacking, the brain wasn't.
As the season has progressed, we have seen a steady improvement in his game and against chelsea he often won the ball back high up the field for us.
I see no link an any way to Elano, I think as time goes by, we will see him become the player that pulls our strings and governs the flow of our game. Silva will become an absolute legend...bit by bit...He still needs time.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:01 am

Nick wrote:
john@staustell wrote:The whole match changed as soon as Ade's arse hit the bench. Bit simplistic to say he 'should have started' because a fresh, sharp Silva totally flummoxed the tired Blackpool team who had got into a system blocking our first formation. Maybe if Silva had started we would've been up against the same barriers.

But that's what our current status and dosh allows us to do - bring on players like Silva, Richards and Vieira when the oppo are on their last legs.

Certainly should start against Poznan though - unless Bobby saves him as a special treat for Arsene Whinger!



Hm I would save him for the arse. I said today I could honestly see Mancini keeping ade for the best against arsenal, then maybe he can start on thursday.

Mancini is stubborn and seems to do the opposite to what the media and players expect. I can see him holding ade back to get him more and more motivated on sunday. He did this at the emirates.

Re: thursday, I think RSC deserves a chance at some point


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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Lee_R » Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:55 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nick wrote:
john@staustell wrote:The whole match changed as soon as Ade's arse hit the bench. Bit simplistic to say he 'should have started' because a fresh, sharp Silva totally flummoxed the tired Blackpool team who had got into a system blocking our first formation. Maybe if Silva had started we would've been up against the same barriers.

But that's what our current status and dosh allows us to do - bring on players like Silva, Richards and Vieira when the oppo are on their last legs.

Certainly should start against Poznan though - unless Bobby saves him as a special treat for Arsene Whinger!



Hm I would save him for the arse. I said today I could honestly see Mancini keeping ade for the best against arsenal, then maybe he can start on thursday.

Mancini is stubborn and seems to do the opposite to what the media and players expect. I can see him holding ade back to get him more and more motivated on sunday. He did this at the emirates.

Re: thursday, I think RSC deserves a chance at some point


Agreed - 90th minite.


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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby brite blu sky » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:27 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Funny to hear Mancini say that Adebayor played a good game.


i need to watch the replay, but i had a sense that while a bit quiet Ade was kind of getting stuck in.

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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:36 am

brite blu sky wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Funny to hear Mancini say that Adebayor played a good game.


i need to watch the replay, but i had a sense that while a bit quiet Ade was kind of getting stuck in.

tin hat??


honestly ill get under that tin hat with you mate...i didn't think he was dreadful. He wasn't a world beater, but the criticism is much harsher than the actuality of what i watched. He needs a run of half-dozen matches to bang in 2 or 3 and get his confidence up. That's all.

Also, has anyone mentioned that the defending for Silva's 'wonder goal' was like fucking so abysmal to make the goal literally comical. i mean i loved Silva's play for the first goal in getting the cross into Tevez, and sure Silva had a good spell and changed the match...fantastic. That's what he's supposed to do. But all the fuss over how fucking amazing his goal was needs to be tempered with the consideration that what we viewed was some of the shittest defending i've seen in a while. If we'd seen that on youtube from the Dutch league we'd be laffing our asses off. Just sayin...

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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby brite blu sky » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:51 am

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brite blu sky wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Funny to hear Mancini say that Adebayor played a good game.


i need to watch the replay, but i had a sense that while a bit quiet Ade was kind of getting stuck in.

tin hat??


honestly ill get under that tin hat with you mate...i didn't think he was dreadful. He wasn't a world beater, but the criticism is much harsher than the actuality of what i watched. He needs a run of half-dozen matches to bang in 2 or 3 and get his confidence up. That's all.

Also, has anyone mentioned that the defending for Silva's 'wonder goal' was like fucking so abysmal to make the goal literally comical. i mean i loved Silva's play for the first goal in getting the cross into Tevez, and sure Silva had a good spell and changed the match...fantastic. That's what he's supposed to do. But all the fuss over how fucking amazing his goal was needs to be tempered with the consideration that what we viewed was some of the shittest defending i've seen in a while. If we'd seen that on youtube from the Dutch league we'd be laffing our asses off. Just sayin...

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im not buying that.. looked to me that Silva just did what he does... not sure any defenders would have been any better.

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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Slim » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:22 am

john68 wrote:[center]STOP[/center]

HE IS NOT KINKLADZE...HE IS DAVID SILVA...HE IS HIS OWN MAN, AN INDIVIDUAL, DESERVING OF HIS OWN PRAISE WITHOUT COMPARISON TO ANYONE ELSE.


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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby dazby » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:09 am

Ade wasn't poor, just average. The aerial route should do Blackpool a lot of damage as they didn't look comfortable. Stoke will smash em.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby john@staustell » Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:28 am

dazby wrote:Ade wasn't poor, just average. The aerial route should do Blackpool a lot of damage as they didn't look comfortable. Stoke will smash em.


Normally I back Ade. But at Blackpool he couldn't trap a ball or pass a ball, constantly offside sometimes inexplicably, couldn't get on the end of tap-ins shot across the goal, didn't make one successful tackle to my memory, constant mis-control. I dont really subscibe to the 'lazy' theory, but yesterday he was lousy end of poor. Including in the air.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby ant london » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:18 am

I loved Kinkladze and he was capable of magic and of lighting up that awful team.

However, he was inconsistent and he did not remotely get stuck in to the extent that Silva has shown he will during his time in Spain and thus far for City.

Sure Silva has a much better team framework in which to showcase his talents but limiting him to a comparison to Kinkladze is, in my view, a bit of an insult to a player who has performed consistently at a higher level that the Georgian Genius ever did.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby john@staustell » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:28 am

ant london wrote:I loved Kinkladze and he was capable of magic and of lighting up that awful team.

However, he was inconsistent and he did not remotely get stuck in to the extent that Silva has shown he will during his time in Spain and thus far for City.

Sure Silva has a much better team framework in which to showcase his talents but limiting him to a comparison to Kinkladze is, in my view, a bit of an insult to a player who has performed consistently at a higher level that the Georgian Genius ever did.


Agreed Ant. Kinkladze was a spark in very dark times, but he was never 'world class'. He did a few things that no-one else could do, and scored some brilliant goals, but that was followed by long periods - and whole matches - of complete anonymity. At the time I saw all his matches for us - pity me!! Sometimes it was like playing constantly with 10 men. Goal against Southampton was one of the best ever though. If Giggs had scored it we'd see it every other week on TV.

Much like Elano his world status is underlined by how other Euro clubs rated him - no-one wanted Elano except Galatasaray and Kinky disappeared without trace at Ajax.

Silva is a completely different kettle of fish. He was previously regarded as 'world class' when linked with the likes of Scum (until he signed for City of course!), and we are now starting to see why. Like many Spanish League players he took a while to adjust to the pace, but now looks the real deal - constantly involved and capable of wonders. Wasn't there a thread about us having no creativity?
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby mr_nool » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:28 am

Slim wrote:
john68 wrote:[center]STOP[/center]

HE IS NOT KINKLADZE...HE IS DAVID SILVA...HE IS HIS OWN MAN, AN INDIVIDUAL, DESERVING OF HIS OWN PRAISE WITHOUT COMPARISON TO ANYONE ELSE.


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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby King Kev » Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:28 am

Just to clarify.

When I compare Silva to Kinkladze it is because of their similar stature, their one-footedness, their willingness to take the ball in any situation, their amazing quick feet and their ability to change a game.

I am not comparing what they have acheived in their careers or their ability as players.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby s1ty m » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:10 am

silva is everything that elano is not. ie, a brilliant footballer.

what separates worlds class from the others, imho, is space; the great players are always in space. think about bell, always in space. silva finds space. just watch him without the ball, he's wonderful, always looking for gaps to run into.

trust me, this fella is better than kinky. any comparison with the tart that was and is elano is laughable. silva could be the spark that makes our title challenge real, because we are definitely in the title race, no question. add super mario into this equation and we start to look awesomely powerful, on paper. for a team playing iffy, not exactly convincing stuff, at times, imagine when the whole thing comes togther? wow.
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Re: David Silva is a...

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:24 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Funny to hear Mancini say that Adebayor played a good game.


i need to watch the replay, but i had a sense that while a bit quiet Ade was kind of getting stuck in.

tin hat??


honestly ill get under that tin hat with you mate...i didn't think he was dreadful. He wasn't a world beater, but the criticism is much harsher than the actuality of what i watched. He needs a run of half-dozen matches to bang in 2 or 3 and get his confidence up. That's all.

Also, has anyone mentioned that the defending for Silva's 'wonder goal' was like fucking so abysmal to make the goal literally comical. i mean i loved Silva's play for the first goal in getting the cross into Tevez, and sure Silva had a good spell and changed the match...fantastic. That's what he's supposed to do. But all the fuss over how fucking amazing his goal was needs to be tempered with the consideration that what we viewed was some of the shittest defending i've seen in a while. If we'd seen that on youtube from the Dutch league we'd be laffing our asses off. Just sayin...

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