Platini's Master Plan (Split from the bollox)

[Rag_hater]

There are a multitude of ways our club can generate income legally that this is no more than an irritation for the Sheikh.
What is more of a worry is the UK tax rates which will directly affect the earnings of players.
With the strength of the Euro and the favourable rates in Spain,La liga is a much bigger threat to us having a dominant team much more than anything Platini can do.

[carl_feedthegoat]

HOW STUPID WILL PLATINI LOOK IF WE END UP PREM CHAMPS YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AND CANT PLAY IN THE CHAMPS LEAGUE.

[zuricity]

HOW STUPID WILL PLATINI LOOK IF WE END UP PREM CHAMPS YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT AND CANT PLAY IN THE CHAMPS LEAGUE.

If City as Champions of the PL were not allowed into the CL by Platini, they could always insist that the teams finishing below them in the PL boycott the CL as a protest in unison against Uefa . You know, 'Up yours mate i'm all right jack' sort of thing.

I'm sure the Arse, Chelsea and United would join us in this......


Ok perhaps not...

Sue the B'stard or even better 'Nail him up ' I say.

[Socrates]

Until debt actually becomes illegal,Platini and his supporters in Europe can have as many grand and noble ideas about there being financial fairness as they want.The fact of the matter is they cannot regulate how clubs get there money and how they spend it.
It may be a private members club but they have to adhere to the legislation of the country they are operating in.
And it will never become illegal to borrow money.

Has nothing to do with debt. They cannot regulate where anyone gets money from, no one is saying that. But they can say whether the rules have met for entering their own competitions! If we spend more than our qualifying earnings, under their rules, they will disqualify us, simple as that.

Has everything to do with debt.Platini's gripe is that clubs are borrowing to much money and living beyond their means.
And if he thinks he can change the laws on finance he is mistaken.

Nope. He has said debt is ok as long as it is commercially raised. It is the provision of loan capital or new equity from owners that he is seeking to stop!

[Beanieboy]

what if the sheik buys a really small club and sells them Benjani for 500million? that would balance the books for a year or two wouldnt it?

[Rag_hater]

Until debt actually becomes illegal,Platini and his supporters in Europe can have as many grand and noble ideas about there being financial fairness as they want.The fact of the matter is they cannot regulate how clubs get there money and how they spend it.
It may be a private members club but they have to adhere to the legislation of the country they are operating in.
And it will never become illegal to borrow money.

Has nothing to do with debt. They cannot regulate where anyone gets money from, no one is saying that. But they can say whether the rules have met for entering their own competitions! If we spend more than our qualifying earnings, under their rules, they will disqualify us, simple as that.

Has everything to do with debt.Platini's gripe is that clubs are borrowing to much money and living beyond their means.
And if he thinks he can change the laws on finance he is mistaken.

Nope. He has said debt is ok as long as it is commercially raised. It is the provision of loan capital or new equity from owners that he is seeking to stop!

In a similar way to Mr.Bosman, when he took them to court we will be entitled too.
And a judge will rule in our favour that it is non of UEFA's business where new capital or equity is obtained from.As long as it is not raised illegally then UEFA have no right to question where it comes from

[Socrates]

Until debt actually becomes illegal,Platini and his supporters in Europe can have as many grand and noble ideas about there being financial fairness as they want.The fact of the matter is they cannot regulate how clubs get there money and how they spend it.
It may be a private members club but they have to adhere to the legislation of the country they are operating in.
And it will never become illegal to borrow money.

Has nothing to do with debt. They cannot regulate where anyone gets money from, no one is saying that. But they can say whether the rules have met for entering their own competitions! If we spend more than our qualifying earnings, under their rules, they will disqualify us, simple as that.

Has everything to do with debt.Platini's gripe is that clubs are borrowing to much money and living beyond their means.
And if he thinks he can change the laws on finance he is mistaken.

Nope. He has said debt is ok as long as it is commercially raised. It is the provision of loan capital or new equity from owners that he is seeking to stop!

In a similar way to Mr.Bosman, when he took them to court we will be entitled too.
And a judge will rule in our favour that it is non of UEFA's business where new capital or equity is obtained from.As long as it is not raised illegally then UEFA have no right to question where it comes from

On precisely what grounds? (I'll give you a clue - there are none...)

[Socrates]

what if the sheik buys a really small club and sells them Benjani for 500million? that would balance the books for a year or two wouldnt it?

They wouldn't notice that in the audit then?

[zuricity]

That's a big hole you're digging for yourself Socrates.

Le'ts wait and see what happens eh ? I don't believe you are correct at all in your assertions.

It's all twoddle Platini probably won't even be in power soon.

Any attempt to 'manipulate' the market by UEFA, as Platini is trying to do, will be taken to the EU court in Brussels. period.

[Socrates]

That's a big hole you're digging for yourself Socrates.

Le'ts wait and see what happens eh ? I don't believe you are correct at all in your assertions.

It's all twoddle Platini probably won't even be in power soon.

Any attempt to 'manipulate' the market by UEFA, as Platini is trying to do, will be taken to the EU court in Brussels. period.

It's not manipulation of the market, it's setting of rules for a football competition. They only fell foul before because they interfered with the freedom of movement of workers. I cannot see any grounds in this instance for the court to take any interest. Can you? Am I missing something?

[Rag_hater]

That's a big hole you're digging for yourself Socrates.

Le'ts wait and see what happens eh ? I don't believe you are correct at all in your assertions.

It's all twoddle Platini probably won't even be in power soon.

Any attempt to 'manipulate' the market by UEFA, as Platini is trying to do, will be taken to the EU court in Brussels. period.

It's not manipulation of the market, it's setting of rules for a football competition. They only fell foul before because they interfered with the freedom of movement of workers. I cannot see any grounds in this instance for the court to take any interest. Can you? Am I missing something?

I'm sure a lawyer who is well versed in these matters could find many reasons for taking them to court but of the top of my head lets say:
The right to recieve equal treatment and not be discriminated against,
The right to oppose the formation of a cartel as you put it.
The right to fair trade.
The right to borrow money.
The rights of workers,I'm sure there many more,but that is something for a lawyer and Judge to decide.

[Slim]

Fifa regulations state they cannot contravene any EU fair trade practice. And denying City admission to the champions league would prevent us from earning the money we are entitled to. Are they going to just give us the TV rights and projected gate revenue's and still deny us a spot?

[john@staustell]

There's definitely an element of paranoia here.

[Slim]

That's kinda what I think. I am not sure Platini is not aiming at the debt riddled clubs already qualifying for the champions league, but being that Soccs is addressing this point, it's only paranoia if we are scared over something we have no control over.

[zuricity]

You have to just love our owner don't you ?

The new Ferrostaal contract.

Here's something from their website

The majority of the shares of MAN Ferrostaal is held by the International Petroleum Investment Company from Abu Dhabi (IPIC – 70%). MAN AG, Germany, is a minority shareholder (30%).

Platini's never going to get his way, with all of the business contacts city will and can make.

[david yearsley]

You have to just love our owner don't you ?

The new Ferrostaal contract.

Here's something from their website

The majority of the shares of MAN Ferrostaal is held by the International Petroleum Investment Company from Abu Dhabi (IPIC – 70%). MAN AG, Germany, is a minority shareholder (30%).

Platini's never going to get his way, with all of the business contacts city will and can make.

As that nauseous little scouse urchin once said on that advert - "exactleeee"

[Socrates]

Ferrostaal have a contract with UEFA?

[stinky pete]

when is platini up for re;election? who votes for the surrender monkey? french tw+t.