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Re: N'Gog's Dive..

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:10 am

Rag_hater wrote:
Thats another brushI think the Europeans are unfairly tarred with.
I think there is more diving going on in the Prem than Europe.
The Europeans maybe better at it but it is not as rife as people seem to think.
In fact Jose commented on it a few months back how he saw much more diving in the Prem compared to other Euro leagues


You are possibly right there, I am not really qualified to say it is a massive issue. However, I have seen many times in internationals (e.g. Rivaldo!!! ball hits knee and he clutches face) where players roll around at least 10 x 360 degrees and they were not touched. I watch some Spanish and French league games and the main difference is in the theatrics. They make such a meal out of the slightest of touches, I would love to bump into them in the street accidentally on purpose and then ask them why they are not doing somersaults, when I clearly made contact with them ;-)
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Re: N'Gog's Dive..

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:28 pm

mr_nool wrote:I think it's a penalty and a dive, and thought it was quite a good solution to offer a penalty for Liverpool as well as a yellow for N'Gog.
If he hadn't jumped/dived, he would've gotten his legs chopped off by the defenders stretched leg. No matter if he touched the ball or not, tackling with a stretched leg is not allowed.


Firstly how can it be a penalty AND a dive???....if you were the ref, every striker in the league would fall over in the box, knowing you would give them a penalty.......the idea is, that penalties are awarded for fouls, as a punnishment to the defending side, not for dives to reward the diver.

Second point, it just utter rubbish, he could easily have avoided the challenge and the tackle itself wasn't a leg breaker of any sort, Adebayor avoided a worse challenge earlier this year, when he leaped over Bendtner's attempt to skive him down and Bendt*at missed.

Tackling with a stretched leg isn't allowed.....I aint goint to reply to that, apart from asking you to put the pipe down and go to bed, you have smoked enough tonight!
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Re: N'Gog's Dive..

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:30 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Diving isn't very sportsman like behaviour and may be considered a form of cheating(but a player might have reasons for doing it such as lets say to avoid injury).
However I think looking at the incident of cheating one has to accept it is a part of the game.
A part of the game it would be better without but nontheless it is a part of the game and one that cannot be got rid off.
Because of that,I can live with it and in certain cases accept that it is the only option.


I agree with that mate, apart from the "Cannot get rid of" bit. I think disciplinary measures can be introduced which will act as a deterrent especially if if people are found guilty and the measures are followed. If a case is brought before a panel and is judged to be found cheating, e.g. diving like N'Gog then he serves a 5 game Ban and the club is deducted the points they were awarded from the match and the opposing team is given them. I see this as a deterrent as the club would not abide by anyone cheating if this was the case.

On the flip side, I would have to think on how to police a tournament cheat like Maradonna.... maybe a firing squad ;-)


How is Maradona a tournament cheat as you put it?
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Re: N'Gog's Dive..

Postby bluej » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:39 pm

Robinho_Is_GOD wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I think it's a penalty and a dive, and thought it was quite a good solution to offer a penalty for Liverpool as well as a yellow for N'Gog.
If he hadn't jumped/dived, he would've gotten his legs chopped off by the defenders stretched leg. No matter if he touched the ball or not, tackling with a stretched leg is not allowed.


Firstly how can it be a penalty AND a dive???....if you were the ref, every striker in the league would fall over in the box, knowing you would give them a penalty.......the idea is, that penalties are awarded for fouls, as a punnishment to the defending side, not for dives to reward the diver.

Second point, it just utter rubbish, he could easily have avoided the challenge and the tackle itself wasn't a leg breaker of any sort, Adebayor avoided a worse challenge earlier this year, when he leaped over Bendtner's attempt to skive him down and Bendt*at missed.

Tackling with a stretched leg isn't allowed.....I aint goint to reply to that, apart from asking you to put the pipe down and go to bed, you have smoked enough tonight!


F*ck me I agree on something with RiG. Think I need a lie down.
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Re: N'Gog's Dive..

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:17 am

bluej wrote:
Robinho_Is_GOD wrote:
mr_nool wrote:I think it's a penalty and a dive, and thought it was quite a good solution to offer a penalty for Liverpool as well as a yellow for N'Gog.
If he hadn't jumped/dived, he would've gotten his legs chopped off by the defenders stretched leg. No matter if he touched the ball or not, tackling with a stretched leg is not allowed.


Firstly how can it be a penalty AND a dive???....if you were the ref, every striker in the league would fall over in the box, knowing you would give them a penalty.......the idea is, that penalties are awarded for fouls, as a punnishment to the defending side, not for dives to reward the diver.

Second point, it just utter rubbish, he could easily have avoided the challenge and the tackle itself wasn't a leg breaker of any sort, Adebayor avoided a worse challenge earlier this year, when he leaped over Bendtner's attempt to skive him down and Bendt*at missed.

Tackling with a stretched leg isn't allowed.....I aint goint to reply to that, apart from asking you to put the pipe down and go to bed, you have smoked enough tonight!


F*ck me I agree on something with RiG. Think I need a lie down.


No don't have a lie down get a drink you have seen the light
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