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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby zuricity » Thu May 23, 2024 8:29 pm

I am ordering the new City shirt with the name Pannick and the number 115. Screw them all
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Nigels Tackle » Fri May 24, 2024 8:39 am

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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Tony P » Mon May 27, 2024 6:53 am

Anyone seen 'Magic Hat's Tweet this morning?

https://x.com/santismagic/status/1794875274841952288
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Mase » Mon May 27, 2024 8:38 am

Tony P wrote:Anyone seen 'Magic Hat's Tweet this morning?

https://x.com/santismagic/status/1794875274841952288


Some random nonce from Twitter knows nothing more about this case than you or I. They post this crap to feed their ego
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Plain Speaking » Mon May 27, 2024 10:36 am

Tony P wrote:Anyone seen 'Magic Hat's Tweet this morning?

https://x.com/santismagic/status/1794875274841952288

I suspect it's Matthew Syed from the Times? His last article about us was all about our finances being a magic trick! He hates us.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Mase » Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:09 pm

Gonna sing this to every “what about 115 charges?” oppo fan.

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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Indianablue » Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:47 pm

Mase wrote:Gonna sing this to every “what about 115 charges?” oppo fan.

To Zombie the Cranberries -

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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:53 pm

It’s all over social City are going after the PL. Just got this :

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/29c3 ... 0bc18b5ccc
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Indianablue » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:28 pm

Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby nottsblue » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:28 pm

Indianablue wrote:Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury

Surely anything incriminating would have already been deleted or now will be?
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby patrickblue » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:50 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury

Surely anything incriminating would have already been deleted or now will be?


Not too sure it's as easy as that. If it was, I'm sure City would have deleted the ones Der Spiegel got hold of, as would the Post Office heve got rid of all the incriminating emails coming out at the inquiry. Have we got a resident expert on here who can tell us more?
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby zuricity » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:10 pm

patrickblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury

Surely anything incriminating would have already been deleted or now will be?


Not too sure it's as easy as that. If it was, I'm sure City would have deleted the ones Der Spiegel got hold of, as would the Post Office heve got rid of all the incriminating emails coming out at the inquiry. Have we got a resident expert on here who can tell us more?


I think email server backups are taken every day, and i am pretty sure that email in most countries are now legal documentation that needs to be retained.
you may remove documents from your account but email server content will be backed up and retained for legal purposes , like real letters, bank statements etc for Companies must be retained .Depending on the nature of the business, that could be 5, 7, 10 20 or even 30 years. I know i must keep bank statements for 10 years- even email delivered statements.

So perhaps , unknowingly , Masters etc may find the emails are lying around on some backup tape somewhere.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:12 pm

zuricity wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury

Surely anything incriminating would have already been deleted or now will be?


Not too sure it's as easy as that. If it was, I'm sure City would have deleted the ones Der Spiegel got hold of, as would the Post Office heve got rid of all the incriminating emails coming out at the inquiry. Have we got a resident expert on here who can tell us more?


I think email server backups are taken every day, and i am pretty sure that email in most countries are now legal documentation that needs to be retained.
you may remove documents from your account but email server content will be backed up and retained for legal purposes , like real letters, bank statements etc for Companies must be retained .Depending on the nature of the business, that could be 5, 7, 10 20 or even 30 years. I know i must keep bank statements for 10 years- even email delivered statements.

So perhaps , unknowingly , Masters etc may find the emails are lying around on some backup tape somewhere.


Waasap and Signal messages will not be seen though.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby zuricity » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:19 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
zuricity wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Being reported on Twitter and in press that City have asked PL and Masters to release all emails concerning City , going back to 2009 ?

Should be some interesting stuff in them. i can see a few being shredded but hopefully it will reveal the collusion between the Cartel and Prem League.

Ramped up another level, this is going to cause injury

Surely anything incriminating would have already been deleted or now will be?


Not too sure it's as easy as that. If it was, I'm sure City would have deleted the ones Der Spiegel got hold of, as would the Post Office heve got rid of all the incriminating emails coming out at the inquiry. Have we got a resident expert on here who can tell us more?


I think email server backups are taken every day, and i am pretty sure that email in most countries are now legal documentation that needs to be retained.
you may remove documents from your account but email server content will be backed up and retained for legal purposes , like real letters, bank statements etc for Companies must be retained .Depending on the nature of the business, that could be 5, 7, 10 20 or even 30 years. I know i must keep bank statements for 10 years- even email delivered statements.

So perhaps , unknowingly , Masters etc may find the emails are lying around on some backup tape somewhere.


Waasap and Signal messages will not be seen though.


Not so sure there Carl, Waasap say data is encrypted, that doesn't mean that Faecebock aren't retaining them - i wouldn't be surprised if they are retaining chats from years ago.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:25 pm

It would have to be a serious suspicion of a crime for them to go into servers to look for some information - the cost is huge (apparently).

I agree with that EVERYTHING is on some server , somewhere.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Mase » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:26 pm

Had to go through this last year with WhatsApp.

You couldn’t request copies of messages from WhatsApp, because as it’s been mentioned they’re encrypted. However, if Masters’ phone was taken, even if he’d deleted the messages from within WhatsApp they could still be retrieved. Once you delete a message on your phone it’s stored in the backend of your phone until that’s full and then it’s removed permanently. It’s how Boris’ messages got seen.

It would depend if we had access to their phones, or if we’ve just simply ask for them to provide the messages.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby patrickblue » Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:42 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:It would have to be a serious suspicion of a crime for them to go into servers to look for some information - the cost is huge (apparently).

I agree with that EVERYTHING is on some server , somewhere.


I suppose if the City lawyers know what's in a certain message and it's pivotal to their case, money would be no object.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby zuricity » Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:15 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:It would have to be a serious suspicion of a crime for them to go into servers to look for some information - the cost is huge (apparently).

I agree with that EVERYTHING is on some server , somewhere.


I know of one system Carl, because i helped build it, where we can retrieve an entire database ( terrabytes but not massive terrabytes nevertheless) for each day going back 25 years for any particular day - with the database structure saved each day as well. Just to find trading deals for whoever in authority requests it.

Yes, it is very expensive. Especially when you have to copy old backups to new backup devices as well, since cd roms , disks etc do actually slowly disintegrate.


now you can go back on waatsup and keep going back on your phone. I don't know how far back, but it does means that content is retained.
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby nottsblue » Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:17 pm

Mase wrote:Had to go through this last year with WhatsApp.

You couldn’t request copies of messages from WhatsApp, because as it’s been mentioned they’re encrypted. However, if Masters’ phone was taken, even if he’d deleted the messages from within WhatsApp they could still be retrieved. Once you delete a message on your phone it’s stored in the backend of your phone until that’s full and then it’s removed permanently. It’s how Boris’ messages got seen.

It would depend if we had access to their phones, or if we’ve just simply ask for them to provide the messages.

Jackie settle out of court mate? :lol:
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Re: City Launch Legal Challenge Against PL Charges & Barrist

Postby Mase » Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:30 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Mase wrote:Had to go through this last year with WhatsApp.

You couldn’t request copies of messages from WhatsApp, because as it’s been mentioned they’re encrypted. However, if Masters’ phone was taken, even if he’d deleted the messages from within WhatsApp they could still be retrieved. Once you delete a message on your phone it’s stored in the backend of your phone until that’s full and then it’s removed permanently. It’s how Boris’ messages got seen.

It would depend if we had access to their phones, or if we’ve just simply ask for them to provide the messages.

Jackie settle out of court mate? :lol:


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