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Mase wrote:First time seeing it just now -

Any questions been asked post match about this?!!!

Usual snide comments by Pep, allusions of the fourth official, but nothing.
Looks we are going to bend over as usual and let it go.

Haaland was the most vocal both on and off the pitch.
Love the bloke, donkey at times, but he doesn't take shit.

Mase wrote:First time seeing it just now -

Any questions been asked post match about this?!!!

Put down as a poor decision by the referee. And no doubt the old chestnut of how these things even themselves out was trotted out.

Pep had a sly dig by saying he wasn’t going to do an Arteta. Inferring a colossal fuck up had been made but without actually saying it.

Every season there’s a fucking horrendous decision that goes against everything we know about football, and always seems to be against us.

There’s no explanation for that call apart from that the ref did not want us to score.

Haaland the only one pushing this. Why do we bend over when these things happen? Every other club gets an explanation. We get fuck all.

Apparently Hooper held his hands up to the City players straight away to apologise. It wasn’t a mistake..

It's easy to think this was deliberate cheating.

Just a quick look on BBC, the huge nonce hiders, and all non-City fans are saying “Haaland should be banned, it was just a mistake by the ref” Football fans are true mongs.

Mase wrote:Just a quick look on BBC, the huge nonce hiders, and all non-City fans are saying “Haaland should be banned, it was just a mistake by the ref” Football fans are true mongs.

Regardless of the error from the referee, Haaland was in his face which is not allowed. I suspect he may well get fined for that. And had he been booked at the time he couldn’t complain

Top level players set the standard that filters down the leagues. I hate it when Fernandes at the rags berates the officials and he is the captain who is allowed to speak to the referee. Or Arsenal or Chelsea or an Arsenal who surround the referee. So for me it’s no different when one of ours does it.

Doesn’t excuse the poor decision of course. But football has lots of 50/50s and much bigger errors go against you and you have to take it. It’s in the post match presser that the time for calling it out. A referee will extremely rarely change his mind without VAR intervention anyway

We’ve had two howlers go against us in the last two games. Maybe we’ll get one in our favour at Villa?

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:Just a quick look on BBC, the huge nonce hiders, and all non-City fans are saying “Haaland should be banned, it was just a mistake by the ref” Football fans are true mongs.

Regardless of the error from the referee, Haaland was in his face which is not allowed. I suspect he may well get fined for that. And had he been booked at the time he couldn’t complain

Top level players set the standard that filters down the leagues. I hate it when Fernandes at the rags berates the officials and he is the captain who is allowed to speak to the referee. Or Arsenal or Chelsea or an Arsenal who surround the referee. So for me it’s no different when one of ours does it.

Doesn’t excuse the poor decision of course. But football has lots of 50/50s and much bigger errors go against you and you have to take it. It’s in the post match presser that the time for calling it out. A referee will extremely rarely change his mind without VAR intervention anyway

We’ve had two howlers go against us in the last two games. Maybe we’ll get one in our favour at Villa?

I’ve never played professional football so I can’t imagine the high emotions that run when something massive is on the line. It’s their livelihood. Haaland didn’t run over the ref, he was stood right there. Imagine him just shrugging his shoulders and just going “ahh well” and walking off.

Your point about Fernandes I could understand, if Haaland did this every week. But for it to happen once, because of cheating, I can totally understand and don’t blame him at all.

Mase wrote:

nottsblue wrote:

Mase wrote:Just a quick look on BBC, the huge nonce hiders, and all non-City fans are saying “Haaland should be banned, it was just a mistake by the ref” Football fans are true mongs.

Regardless of the error from the referee, Haaland was in his face which is not allowed. I suspect he may well get fined for that. And had he been booked at the time he couldn’t complain

Top level players set the standard that filters down the leagues. I hate it when Fernandes at the rags berates the officials and he is the captain who is allowed to speak to the referee. Or Arsenal or Chelsea or an Arsenal who surround the referee. So for me it’s no different when one of ours does it.

Doesn’t excuse the poor decision of course. But football has lots of 50/50s and much bigger errors go against you and you have to take it. It’s in the post match presser that the time for calling it out. A referee will extremely rarely change his mind without VAR intervention anyway

We’ve had two howlers go against us in the last two games. Maybe we’ll get one in our favour at Villa?

I’ve never played professional football so I can’t imagine the high emotions that run when something massive is on the line. It’s their livelihood. Haaland didn’t run over the ref, he was stood right there. Imagine him just shrugging his shoulders and just going “ahh well” and walking off.

Your point about Fernandes I could understand, if Haaland did this every week. But for it to happen once, because of cheating, I can totally understand and don’t blame him at all.

Fair point about the emotions. But they are top level players and as said they are the template and role models for lower, non league and grassroots players. There is a huge problem in this country with respect for referees, especially at grassroots level. The players here look at what happens at the top level and will try the same. A colleague at work is a qualified FA referee, retired now, but some of the scenarios he and other refs have seen and had to deal with are quite frankly shocking.

I know Haaland has only done this once and he is normally a model pro in this regard. But once is all it takes. I would advocate the system whereby only the captain can talk to the referee and anyone else butting in gets a yellow. Football seems to be the only sport where respect for officials is as poor. And ultimately if we haven’t got enough referees we don’t have a sport, which is actually what is happening at grassroots level where matches are routinely cancelled due to no officials

I think respect is earned in whatever walk of life. How can we respect referees, and players respect referees, when they are getting so much wrong over and over.

I saw a comment on BBC saying that if Haaland was in a normal job he’d be dismissed for shouting at someone. If a referee was in a “normal” job they’d be sacked every week for making mistakes and general incompetence.

Mase wrote:I think respect is earned in whatever walk of life. How can we respect referees, and players respect referees, when they are getting so much wrong over and over.

I saw a comment on BBC saying that if Haaland was in a normal job he’d be dismissed for shouting at someone. If a referee was in a “normal” job they’d be sacked every week for making mistakes and general incompetence.

Typical rag media today shift the fact that City were screwed on to Haaland behavior at the Ref ,
No the ref needs to be relegated
No it’s a disgrace (aka captain Black)
No apologies
Just an “honest “ mistake by the ref who didn’t deserve what that nasty villain Haaland did to him
Wankers one and all

Mase wrote:I think respect is earned in whatever walk of life. How can we respect referees, and players respect referees, when they are getting so much wrong over and over.

I saw a comment on BBC saying that if Haaland was in a normal job he’d be dismissed for shouting at someone. If a referee was in a “normal” job they’d be sacked every week for making mistakes and general incompetence.

Absolutely the referee should have consequences if and most likely when they make big errors. And if that means demoting referees then so be it. I am truly gobsmacked at the level of incompetence by officials and especially VAR, that is seen on a regular basis

But it IMO cannot be allowed that players can remonstrate with the match officials in the manner they currently are without damaging the game in general

This off MEN feed : Referee Simon Hooper will face no punishment for his late error in Manchester City's draw with Tottenham, it is reported.

This is the same ref who did not award a pen for Wolves at old toilet when Onana assaulted the Wolves player. Go figure.

Ref Watch was mind blowing.

I'd recommend everyone watch the clip. 6 mins odd long and in it they mention on multiple occasions how they feel sorry for the referee and how "technically he did nothing wrong".

Truly bizarre footage.

So, based on watching that clip, I think the only fair thing to do is formally apologise to the referee for putting him in this situation ?

i am still fucking fuming. spuds dont need any help taking points off of us - they do it every fucking year - but hooper was all to happy to lend a hand. fucking blatant cheating. there is no other rational explanation for it.

Premier League charge City with failing to control their players when they surrounded the referee but no separate action against Haaland for the tweet. So a fine.

Original Dub wrote:Ref Watch was mind blowing.

I'd recommend everyone watch the clip. 6 mins odd long and in it they mention on multiple occasions how they feel sorry for the referee and how "technically he did nothing wrong".

Truly bizarre footage.

So, based on watching that clip, I think the only fair thing to do is formally apologise to the referee for putting him in this situation ?

Then you have Ally Mccoiat on talk sport saying “it’s refreshing to see the ref make a mistake and VAR not getting involved “

I kid you not !

blues2win wrote:Premier League charge City with failing to control their players when they surrounded the referee but no separate action against Haaland for the tweet. So a fine.

How can they fine a player for just simply putting “WTF” and that’s it? He could have been talking about anything!!

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Original Dub wrote:Ref Watch was mind blowing.

I'd recommend everyone watch the clip. 6 mins odd long and in it they mention on multiple occasions how they feel sorry for the referee and how "technically he did nothing wrong".

Truly bizarre footage.

So, based on watching that clip, I think the only fair thing to do is formally apologise to the referee for putting him in this situation ?

Then you have Ally Mccoiat on talk sport saying “it’s refreshing to see the ref make a mistake and VAR not getting involved “

I kid you not !

Can’t really take onboard what a piss stained alchy like McMoist has got to say though. He’s been getting way above his station for a while now. Utter helmet

They were plenty of rival fans who wanted Haaland hung drawn and quartered.