Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

[Socrates]

How can the Ethiad deal be deemed to be too high, considering that many of our competitors have similar or even more lucrative deals?

I realise that the ownership issue could be questioned, but surely that should be relevant if our deal was much better than those our opponents have with "neutral" or unconnected sponsors.

Most of our competitors have larger fan bases than us. So of course than are going to have deals that are bigger than ours. A company marketing to the rags are going to have more potential customer's than a company marketing to us. A lot of these deals has more to do they what goes on the pitch.

We play in the Premier League. Tonight the biggest club in the world play for the Spanish title. Wonder how the viewing figures compare to our game v QPR.

TV viewers is only one part of the equation when these deals are being negotiated.

True but our fanbase is not less than half the size of PSG's!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

It could have been 'seen' as too high perhaps at the time - the comparisons were Arsenal etc. and other teams like red Scouse had a larger fan base etc and we could not claim to have a 'global appeal' that would support such a high annual value.

So I can get by head around the 1st couple of years. But since then we have been PL champions - come 2nd and been involved in the closest title race for decades - and likely to win it. Accordingly our global recognition/appeal has gone through the roof - the QPR game alone must have had massive audience generation. So given that since the deal was done the scum have done their deals - red scouse have had a big lift etc - this actually means that our deal is now undervalued.

This is why I feel that we could justify a significant uplift through a renegotiation now with Etihad.

And why we should be careful to create a precedent that we have accepted the deal is over-valued - without clarity that this was nly for the 1st couple of years

Indeed, when you weigh up what was possibly included for the Campus, it would appear a bargain to get the naming rights and shirt sponsorship of one of the most visible clubs in world football at between 30 and 40 millions per season.

[JamieMCFC]

How can the Ethiad deal be deemed to be too high, considering that many of our competitors have similar or even more lucrative deals?

I realise that the ownership issue could be questioned, but surely that should be relevant if our deal was much better than those our opponents have with "neutral" or unconnected sponsors.

Most of our competitors have larger fan bases than us. So of course than are going to have deals that are bigger than ours. A company marketing to the rags are going to have more potential customer's than a company marketing to us. A lot of these deals has more to do they what goes on the pitch.

We play in the Premier League. Tonight the biggest club in the world play for the Spanish title. Wonder how the viewing figures compare to our game v QPR.

TV viewers is only one part of the equation when these deals are being negotiated.

True but our fanbase is not less than half the size of PSG's!

Wasn't referring to PSG. Talking the likes of scum, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Bayern, Barca.

[Socrates]

Most of our competitors have larger fan bases than us. So of course than are going to have deals that are bigger than ours. A company marketing to the rags are going to have more potential customer's than a company marketing to us. A lot of these deals has more to do they what goes on the pitch.

We play in the Premier League. Tonight the biggest club in the world play for the Spanish title. Wonder how the viewing figures compare to our game v QPR.

TV viewers is only one part of the equation when these deals are being negotiated.

True but our fanbase is not less than half the size of PSG's!

Wasn't referring to PSG. Talking the likes of scum, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Bayern, Barca.

But if PSG's sponsorship is being revalued at 100m, ours should remain intact at 40m, no?

[JamieMCFC]

But if PSG's sponsorship is being revalued at 100m, ours should remain intact at 40m, no?

It should but we don't even know if ours is being revalued. I wonder if the scums deal with Chevrolet was looked at. As they exec from Chevrolet that negotiated the deal was fired because of it.

[Risby]

It should but we don't even know if ours is being revalued. I wonder if the scums deal with Chevrolet was looked at. As they exec from Chevrolet that negotiated the deal was fired because of it.

Fuck that. The scum had a 10-12 million pound deal a year for their shitty training kit. £25 million more for the stadium naming rights and the main sponsor. Shouldn't even cause a ripple.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

PSG escape with £20m fine for breaching UEFA Financial Fair Play rules
By MARTIN SAMUEL and CHRIS WHEELER
PUBLISHED: 00:25, 8 May 2014 | UPDATED: 01:21, 8 May 2014
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UEFA are set to further infuriate Manchester City by announcing that Paris Saint-Germain will face only a £20million one-off fine for breaching Financial Fair Play regulations.
City are already upset with European football's governing body over proposals to fine them £49m, payable in three instalments, and impose sanctions that would cut their Champions League squad cut from 25 to 21.
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It was thought that big-spending PSG would face a similar 'settlement' following an investigation into their finances - in particular a £167m sponsorship deal with Qatar Tourist Authority.
However, Sportsmail can reveal that PSG, confirmed as French champions on Wednesday night, will face a significantly smaller fine.
The move will incense City's Abu Dhabi owners, who feel harshly treated after reducing their annual losses from £98m to £52m over the past two years.
City are believed to have until Friday to accept the settlement or appeal to a panel empowered to impose even harsher, non-negotiable sanctions, including possible Champions League exclusion.
It was unclear whether PSG would face similar Champions League squad cuts and imposition of a salary cap but coach Laurent Blanc admitted UEFA's action means his club 'won't be able to do everything it wants' in Europe next season.


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[Ted Hughes]

Anybody ever mentioned/noticed Expo 2020 Dubai on the back of our training tops ?

That's 6 years away. They owe Abu Dhabi a fucking fortune. Six years of sponsorship ?

[avoidconfusion]

If this is true and PSG are fine significantly less than City, I can see all hell break lose and Mansour taking UEFA to the courts as well as all the British press getting behind City because once again Platini and his corrupt cronies show their hatred for the English Football.

[AG7]

Calm down everyone ... the whole we will be fined £49m plus squad cut to 21 plus wage bill restriction was picked up on 'speculation' in France about that being the penalty handed to PSG ...

I don't know how it became from 'probably this will be the punishment' to 'this is the punishment' in papers ...

Now news is that PSG will be fined only £20m with nothing else, so no squad cuts, no wage bill restriction ... just a one off £20m fine ...

Again this is speculation at this stage ...

If this is the final 'negotiated' fine for PSG ... I expect us to get away with maybe £10-15m fine and that's all ...

Remember nothing official was handed to us ... Nothing official was it even now is handed to PSG and it's all speculation which started at £50m plus plus plus and is now down to £20m ...

Let's wait till the official word is out ...

[Socrates]

Calm down everyone ... the whole we will be fined £49m plus squad cut to 21 plus wage bill restriction was picked up on 'speculation' in France about that being the penalty handed to PSG ...

I don't know how it became from 'probably this will be the punishment' to 'this is the punishment' in papers ...

Now news is that PSG will be fined only £20m with nothing else, so no squad cuts, no wage bill restriction ... just a one off £20m fine ...

Again this is speculation at this stage ...

If this is the final 'negotiated' fine for PSG ... I expect us to get away with maybe £10-15m fine and that's all ...

Remember nothing official was handed to us ... Nothing official was it even now is handed to PSG and it's all speculation which started at £50m plus plus plus and is now down to £20m ...

Let's wait till the official word is out ...

You seriously think City aren't briefing the press? Please...

[Esky]

Calm down everyone ... the whole we will be fined £49m plus squad cut to 21 plus wage bill restriction was picked up on 'speculation' in France about that being the penalty handed to PSG ...

I don't know how it became from 'probably this will be the punishment' to 'this is the punishment' in papers ...

Now news is that PSG will be fined only £20m with nothing else, so no squad cuts, no wage bill restriction ... just a one off £20m fine ...

Again this is speculation at this stage ...

If this is the final 'negotiated' fine for PSG ... I expect us to get away with maybe £10-15m fine and that's all ...

Remember nothing official was handed to us ... Nothing official was it even now is handed to PSG and it's all speculation which started at £50m plus plus plus and is now down to £20m ...

Let's wait till the official word is out ...

Good post, it's all conjecture at the minute.
And to be fair, if we were hit with a 10-20m fine, it'd still probably do more for us than a few signings have since the takeover.

[Benjay]

The FFP is going to annoy us all but I refuse to have anything spoil would could be a very good Sunday. Its all about sunday..

[john@staustell]

The FFP is going to annoy us all but I refuse to have anything spoil would could be a very good Sunday. Its all about sunday..

The timing is part of the plot of course. What sane person would let all this out in the week titles are decided?

[Bianchi on Ice]

Calm down everyone ... the whole we will be fined £49m plus squad cut to 21 plus wage bill restriction was picked up on 'speculation' in France about that being the penalty handed to PSG ...

I don't know how it became from 'probably this will be the punishment' to 'this is the punishment' in papers ...

Now news is that PSG will be fined only £20m with nothing else, so no squad cuts, no wage bill restriction ... just a one off £20m fine ...

Again this is speculation at this stage ...

If this is the final 'negotiated' fine for PSG ... I expect us to get away with maybe £10-15m fine and that's all ...

Remember nothing official was handed to us ... Nothing official was it even now is handed to PSG and it's all speculation which started at £50m plus plus plus and is now down to £20m ...

Let's wait till the official word is out ...

Good post, it's all conjecture at the minute.
And to be fair, if we were hit with a 10-20m fine, it'd still probably do more for us than a few signings have since the takeover.

yeah, adebayor, bridge and Jo should pay the fucking fine

[Ted Hughes]

Calm down everyone ... the whole we will be fined £49m plus squad cut to 21 plus wage bill restriction was picked up on 'speculation' in France about that being the penalty handed to PSG ...

I don't know how it became from 'probably this will be the punishment' to 'this is the punishment' in papers ...

Now news is that PSG will be fined only £20m with nothing else, so no squad cuts, no wage bill restriction ... just a one off £20m fine ...

Again this is speculation at this stage ...

If this is the final 'negotiated' fine for PSG ... I expect us to get away with maybe £10-15m fine and that's all ...

Remember nothing official was handed to us ... Nothing official was it even now is handed to PSG and it's all speculation which started at £50m plus plus plus and is now down to £20m ...

Let's wait till the official word is out ...

You seriously think City aren't briefing the press? Please...

I mentioned on here yesterday that there was a decent opinion (from inside the industry I believe) that the whole press thing was based on one article in L'Equipe regarding PSG & the rest just made up, assuming we would face the same penalites.

Could easily be true.

[jimtolmie_tache]

yeah, adebayor, bridge and Jo should pay the fucking fine

No, Mark frigging Hughes should. That is the big mistake that the owners made... they should have got rid far sooner, almost as soon as they came in once a suitable replacement had been found. The year we wasted with him is what's coming back to haunt us.

It's no coincidence that QPR will be battered by FFP if they don't get promoted. Give that man money and he's a menace... spending it like he's playing a computer game, giving ridiculous wages to over-rated players who then couldn't give a toss because the contract has given them the security they were looking for.

Agent Moyes has been a hoot, but it's only payback for what MUFC Agent Hughes has left us with... though don't know what QPR did to the Rags for them to cop for it as well.

Worst manager of the century, IMO. Worse than Pearce.

[Ted Hughes]

yeah, adebayor, bridge and Jo should pay the fucking fine

No, Mark frigging Hughes should. That is the big mistake that the owners made... they should have got rid far sooner, almost as soon as they came in once a suitable replacement had been found. The year we wasted with him is what's coming back to haunt us.

It's no coincidence that QPR will be battered by FFP if they don't get promoted. Give that man money and he's a menace... spending it like he's playing a computer game, giving ridiculous wages to over-rated players who then couldn't give a toss because the contract has given them the security they were looking for.

Agent Moyes has been a hoot, but it's only payback for what MUFC Agent Hughes has left us with... though don't know what QPR did to the Rags for them to cop for it as well.

Worst manager of the century, IMO. Worse than Pearce.

Horseshit.

Hughes signed Kompany, Zabba, Barry, DJong, Lescott & Tevez. The fucking backbone of our trophy winning side & still part of the spine of this one.

Signing Adebayor back then, was a huge thing for City, as we didn't think we could attract players like that from clubs like Arsenal. we were a mid table team, BELOW the level of Spurs now.

It's fucking remarkable how many of his transitional players ended up as champions.

There's some right revisionist shite posted about those times.

[jimtolmie_tache]

Hughes signed Kompany, Zabba, Barry, DJong, Lescott & Tevez. The fucking backbone of our trophy winning side & still part of the spine of this one.

Kompany and Zab were budget signings, *just* before the big money came in. Zabaleta signed on the day, didn't he? He was as shocked as anyone what he was walking into.

That, tbf, is where Hughes excels. How many people had even heard of Kompany before he signed? Unless you follow German or Belgian football, not many I expect. I certainly hadn't. I knew Zab because Spanish football has a far higher profile, but he was at Espanyol, not Barcelona.

I'm saying Hughes was the worst type of manager to have under the current owners. He was appointed by Thaksin basically because he knew all his money was frozen, and Hughes was probably a good choice to get the most out of a)existing players and b) any bargain signings he could think of. If the new owners had never come in, Hughes would probably have been okay, keeping us in the division and maybe getting a semi-final or two. We wouldn't have expected any more from him, given what had happened in the decade since Peter Reid was sacked.

But there was maybe too much sentiment - or maybe, too much wanting to look like nice people - on the part of ADUG to keep Hughes on for so long. And Hughes gets blinded by what he considers big names when he has big money to spend. Ade and Bridge were truly big names when they signed for us, but Hughes was too desperate to get them and gave them too comfortable contracts. I bet Kompany and Zab's first contracts weren't anything like, and we saw how hungry they were from the off, particularly Zab.

At QPR he was even more extreme. He would've been so much better off staying at Fulham, but the fact that he was blinded by the Mittal millions shows that he has a misplaced arrogance about him that makes him unsuitable for a level any higher than where he is now. He won't ever get a truly big job again, not even Everton if Martinez goes. He may get Wales again one day... that wouldn't be a bad fit considering there is no money or contracts involved.

He should have gone before the 09-10 season, to give Mancini, or another choice, the 2009 Summer transfer window, which turned out to be a wasted opportunity.

[Ted Hughes]

Hughes signed Kompany, Zabba, Barry, DJong, Lescott & Tevez. The fucking backbone of our trophy winning side & still part of the spine of this one.

Kompany and Zab were budget signings, *just* before the big money came in. Zabaleta signed on the day, didn't he? He was as shocked as anyone what he was walking into.

That, tbf, is where Hughes excels. How many people had even heard of Kompany before he signed? Unless you follow German or Belgian football, not many I expect. I certainly hadn't. I knew Zab because Spanish football has a far higher profile, but he was at Espanyol, not Barcelona.

I'm saying Hughes was the worst type of manager to have under the current owners. He was appointed by Thaksin basically because he knew all his money was frozen, and Hughes was probably a good choice to get the most out of a)existing players and b) any bargain signings he could think of. If the new owners had never come in, Hughes would probably have been okay, keeping us in the division and maybe getting a semi-final or two. We wouldn't have expected any more from him, given what had happened in the decade since Peter Reid was sacked.

But there was maybe too much sentiment - or maybe, too much wanting to look like nice people - on the part of ADUG to keep Hughes on for so long. And Hughes gets blinded by what he considers big names when he has big money to spend. Ade and Bridge were truly big names when they signed for us, but Hughes was too desperate to get them and gave them too comfortable contracts. I bet Kompany and Zab's first contracts weren't anything like, and we saw how hungry they were from the off, particularly Zab.

At QPR he was even more extreme. He would've been so much better off staying at Fulham, but the fact that he was blinded by the Mittal millions shows that he has a misplaced arrogance about him that makes him unsuitable for a level any higher than where he is now. He won't ever get a truly big job again, not even Everton if Martinez goes. He may get Wales again one day... that wouldn't be a bad fit considering there is no money or contracts involved.

He should have gone before the 09-10 season, to give Mancini, or another choice, the 2009 Summer transfer window, which turned out to be a wasted opportunity.

Hughes didn't give anyone a contract. Gary Cooke did.

People in the media were openly laughing when players like Adebayor were linked with City & huge money was the only way to persuade them.