wigan v city official match thread

[Original Dub]

OK it looks like we will have to wait until you calm down and can think straight. Having 2 attacking wide men does not mean we are only attacking with 4 players! I think Barry was in the box quite a lot, and we saw Zabba and Bridge in support of the front line whenever possible. The plan is to attack as a team and defend as one. Unfortunately we are not playing great as a team yet apart from some good spells which don't last long enough.

I actually thought after we scored , although still not playing great ,it felt like we would go on and win until Zabba made his mistake.

I think we would have went on to win the game. I felt we were gaining momentum and the game was heading our way without a doubt. In fact, I believe most people watching that match would have said the same thing.

We were set up fine. Its obviously just the way NQDP vents his frustration because as the weeks go by, he actually makes less and less sense post match. He speaks like he never watched the game.

Its a shame because he always came across as someone who could analyse a game of football.

Then Mark Hughes got the city job.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

lol maybe that's it " He speaks like he never watched the game."

[CITYSTEVEDON]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

[edge275]

Thought our players were under par, it happens sometimes.

I didn't feel hughes set up the team negatively I felt the Zabaleta sending off fucked us. The first booking was ridiculous but the second one was Zabaleta's own fault. With some of his challenges it could be argued his sending off was overdue.

Lescott was poor again. We can't keep tolerating him 'bedding in'.

I don't know if this goes against the general concensus here but I felt SWp was poor too. Lost the ball a lot. For an inventive player he didn't really invent much.

I thought Petrov was very good and surely he should be staking his claim for a starting spot now. If he could work on his tackling and tracking back he'd be undroppable.

I thought Tevez was very good as well, and so was De Jong. Overall I feel it's 2 points lost and not because of Hughes but because of shite refereeing and a player prone to irrational behaviour.

The only thing I wanted hughes to do was sub off SWP for Weiss for the start of the second half.

[The Original Special One]

Starting the game minus argueably our 2 biggest performers of the season, away from home to a Wigan side who actually can play football, whilst going down to 10 men and losing our talismanic centre striker to injury and to a real Bogey team; well, I think I'll be happy with a point thank you very much!

The team realistically picked itself today and I was expecting a win prior to the sending off of Zab. Shame the little Argie seems to have a rush of blood just when I'm feeling good. Is it like a disease thing, and Dunney passed it on when Zab arrived?

Zaba to be fair knew he couldn't depend on Richards

[The Original Special One]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

[Original Dub]

Thought our players were under par, it happens sometimes.

I didn't feel hughes set up the team negatively I felt the Zabaleta sending off fucked us. The first booking was ridiculous but the second one was Zabaleta's own fault. With some of his challenges it could be argued his sending off was overdue.

Lescott was poor again. We can't keep tolerating him 'bedding in'.

I don't know if this goes against the general concensus here but I felt SWp was poor too. Lost the ball a lot. For an inventive player he didn't really invent much.

I thought Petrov was very good and surely he should be staking his claim for a starting spot now. If he could work on his tackling and tracking back he'd be undroppable.

I thought Tevez was very good as well, and so was De Jong. Overall I feel it's 2 points lost and not because of Hughes but because of shite refereeing and a player prone to irrational behaviour.

The only thing I wanted hughes to do was sub off SWP for Weiss for the start of the second half.

I agree with all of that.

That was the game analysed with thought and observation.

Well in mate.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

I would not consider myself a big Micah fan but if you get the chance watch a rerun of the game and concentrate on him throughout. I thought he wasn't bad today but yes he didn't get everything right. Missed a challenge before the goal but really Shay should have done better and was more at fault.

[The Original Special One]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

I would not consider myself a big Micah fan but if you get the chance watch a rerun of the game and concentrate on him throughout. I thought he wasn't bad today but yes he didn't get everything right. Missed a challenge before the goal but really Shay should have done better and was more at fault.

did he stop ONE cross being put in?

[Beefymcfc]

Mmmmmmmm, was just wondering who I'd have as MotM? It's a difficult one today, anyone know how to start a Poll?

[Lev Bronstein]

Not great, hardly any shots in the first half and the defence still looks shakey. Sometimes though, you have to give credit to the opposition for playing well and Wigan seem to be an improving side.

As to whether it's a good point or not, that'll become apparant as the season progresses. Chelsea have lost at Wigan and Villa - we picked up draws at both, so I'm not too downhearted.

[shawzy]

Not great, hardly any shots in the first half and the defence still looks shakey. Sometimes though, you have to give credit to the opposition for playing well and Wigan seem to be an improving side.

As to whether it's a good point or not, that'll become apparant as the season progresses. Chelsea have lost at Wigan and Villa - we picked up draws at both, so I'm not too downhearted.

Me neither.We didnt lose and we were a little off today but no captain Toure and our best in form striker bellers was injured..
Zabba should no better to rush in like that with rash challenges.We did struggle after the sending off but we didnt get beat away from from home,which is vital.We are still in the chasing pack with a game in hand.Hardly a catastophic result.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

I would not consider myself a big Micah fan but if you get the chance watch a rerun of the game and concentrate on him throughout. I thought he wasn't bad today but yes he didn't get everything right. Missed a challenge before the goal but really Shay should have done better and was more at fault.

did he stop ONE cross being put in?

First of all let's not forget he was playing center back for most of the game. He went to full back after Zabba went off and even then not immediately so I reckon 20 or 25 minutes. I am not sure I can remember him " stopping " one cross if that means actually blocking an attempt to cross but equally I can only remember 1 cross going over from his side.

As I said I am not his biggest fan but I just don't go for jumping on him because he doesnt do everything right in a game.

[mcfc1632]

needlessly reckless by Zaba
(but where was Richards?)

It does not matter who is playing / where - in our defence -they always end up having to fill in a void left by Micah - total waste - I would rather an academy player in his place - seriously

[mcfc1632]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

I would not consider myself a big Micah fan but if you get the chance watch a rerun of the game and concentrate on him throughout. I thought he wasn't bad today but yes he didn't get everything right. Missed a challenge before the goal but really Shay should have done better and was more at fault.

did he stop ONE cross being put in?

First of all let's not forget he was playing center back for most of the game. He went to full back after Zabba went off and even then not immediately so I reckon 20 or 25 minutes. I am not sure I can remember him " stopping " one cross if that means actually blocking an attempt to cross but equally I can only remember 1 cross going over from his side.

As I said I am not his biggest fan but I just don't go for jumping on him because he doesnt do everything right in a game.

Well - I am def not his biggest fan - and this was perhaps his best game of the season - but that says it it all!!!

He is shit - in all regards -and a team should not have to play with such a liability - all players are trying to make up for his cock-ups and that is totally unfair on them - total and utter disgrace to consider him a prem level player

[CITYSTEVEDON]

to be honest, a point is a point and its better then what we got last year. i thought zab was very unlucky with the first yellow, but he should have stayed on his feet and not dive in. but the two worst players for me was richards and petrov, can any one of them put a foot in or run back and defend

last time I checked Richards was classed as a defender, which involves positioning oneself in our half of the field.
What 'running back' should he have had to do????

well richards spends more time in the other teams half then ours, and when the other team are going forward, richards just jogs back.

[irblinx]

RSC was a huge disappointment, he only had around 10 minutes and yet just didn't look like he could be arsed. Especially disappointing given the great response he got from the fans when he was, now I come to think about, not really arsed in the warm up before the game too.

Having watched the key bits back now we woz robbed of a penalty and Mad Zabba's first yellow card was a disgrace. Nige's 20 foot sliding tackle didn't look quite as good on telly either :o)

[Original Dub]

RSC was a huge disappointment, he only had around 10 minutes and yet just didn't look like he could be arsed. Especially disappointing given the great response he got from the fans when he was, now I come to think about, not really arsed in the warm up before the game too.

Having watched the key bits back now we woz robbed of a penalty and Mad Zabba's first yellow card was a disgrace. Nige's 20 foot sliding tackle didn't look quite as good on telly either :o)

Vital decisions in determining the outcome of the game. Something that someone in this thread chose to completely ignore... instead blaming it all on hughes and then logging off....

[DoomMerchant]

Thought our players were under par, it happens sometimes.

I didn't feel hughes set up the team negatively I felt the Zabaleta sending off fucked us. The first booking was ridiculous but the second one was Zabaleta's own fault. With some of his challenges it could be argued his sending off was overdue.

Lescott was poor again. We can't keep tolerating him 'bedding in'.

I don't know if this goes against the general concensus here but I felt SWp was poor too. Lost the ball a lot. For an inventive player he didn't really invent much.

I thought Petrov was very good and surely he should be staking his claim for a starting spot now. If he could work on his tackling and tracking back he'd be undroppable.

I thought Tevez was very good as well, and so was De Jong. Overall I feel it's 2 points lost and not because of Hughes but because of shite refereeing and a player prone to irrational behaviour.

The only thing I wanted hughes to do was sub off SWP for Weiss for the start of the second half.

im trying to picture Petrov "working on his tackling."

[Kyle]

RSC was a huge disappointment, he only had around 10 minutes and yet just didn't look like he could be arsed. Especially disappointing given the great response he got from the fans when he was, now I come to think about, not really arsed in the warm up before the game too.

Having watched the key bits back now we woz robbed of a penalty and Mad Zabba's first yellow card was a disgrace. Nige's 20 foot sliding tackle didn't look quite as good on telly either :o)

Vital decisions in determining the outcome of the game. Something that someone in this thread chose to completely ignore... instead blaming it all on hughes and then logging off....

Easy man, although some points we may not all agree on, If you would have responded to my post about the formations, I agree with NQDP that there was a gap that should have been filled, thats not why we lost, but that must be addressed for the rest of the season...