IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

[13021J]

Yes I think he is, based purely on his tactical acumen shown so far, which shows how far behind Hughes (sadly) was. 7 trophies in seven years in Italy cant be bad.

What concerns me more is the secrecy over this contract situation. If the Board thought he was the man then why didnt they give him the full 31/2 year contract? Imagine if we do win the domestic treble this season (I know!) there would be nothing to stop Mancio going to Real Madrid/Barca and we may have lost a genius?!

[Swales4ever]

The more of Inter Milan fans are angry with their chairman Moratti when he replaced Mancio with Mourinho. Could we make the same mistake of Inter Milan replacing a number 1 with that Portuguese twat or anybody else? It'd be unbelievable for me!

I would have written your gold by myself, Renato_Lad

Let me stress the point once again:
Roberto his owner's first pic
Never saw in my life a tycoon to be idiot

[Swales4ever]

Yes I think he is, based purely on his tactical acumen shown so far, which shows how far behind Hughes (sadly) was. 7 trophies in seven years in Italy cant be bad.

What concerns me more is the secrecy over this contract situation. If the Board thought he was the man then why didnt they give him the full 31/2 year contract? Imagine if we do win the domestic treble this season (I know!) there would be nothing to stop Mancio going to Real Madrid/Barca and we may have lost a genius?!

Don't worry:
Roberto is as loyal as success greedy.
Since a player has always regarded to Premiership as the Holyland: the sad Leicester's experience was just because he desired to smell the atmospere even is phisycally to late.
Neither him nor any other wise professional would change CITY potentiality with Barca or RM

[Beefymcfc]

I wonder if that rumoured 6 month clause in Mancio's contract is there for a reason:

Jose Mourinho: I will return to Premier League

Former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has reiterated his desire to return to work in the Premier League at some point in the future.

The 46-year-old, who watched Chelsea's win over Fulham yesterday ahead of the Champions League clash with his Inter Milan side, said: "I want to be back. I'm not the kind of guy to keep his feelings hidden.

"I have always said the same - I love it here, I love it here, I love it here."

However, in an interview with the Sun, Mourinho added: "I don't leave any club mid-season to go to another. So, until the end of the season there's no chance that I will leave Inter.

"I was very successful so it is normal that other clubs here will want me.

"I won two titles with Porto, two with Chelsea and now I want to make it two, plus two, plus two by winning it again with Inter. That would be special.

"But yes, I believe I will be back one day."

Asked how it felt to return to Stamfrod Bridge for the first time since parting company with Chelsea in 2007, Mourinho said: "I feel the love I really do and it is very emotional.

"It is only the second time I have been back to London since I left and the first time I have been back to Stamford Bridge - and i must say it's good to be back - I have seen so many friends.

"I left it so long because I didn't want to be a factor in disturbing things here. They seemed to be changing coaches every three months and I did not like that and I did not want to to be seen to be interfering or causing problems..

"I also stayed away because it was painful to return - I had such great times here and I never wanted to leave.

"It hurt to go and so it was always going to be difficult to come back again."

Does this cause a dilemma for the 'Special One' fans?

[10.Goater_Legend]

I'm sure Mancini corrected himself in that press conference and said "sorry no my contract is 3 and a half years" but if i'm mistaken it won't matter if he's on a short term deal because if we keep playing with the style and solidness like we are at the minute, they would be mad not to take up the option to give him the further 3 years, and that's even if we don't get in the top 4 this season. I'm convinced Roberto is the man to deliever success in the long term.

[Beefymcfc]

I'm sure Mancini corrected himself in that press conference and said "sorry no my contract is 3 and a half years" but if i'm mistaken it won't matter if he's on a short term deal because if we keep playing with the style and solidness like we are at the minute, they would be mad not to take up the option to give him the further 3 years, and that's even if we don't get in the top 4 this season. I'm convinced Roberto is the man to deliever success in the long term.

I agree mate. I wonder what the outcome would be if we had a 'Poll' on the subject, especially if we lose a game or 2?

[Blue2]

Two games against poor opposition is not really any measure of greatness in the longer term...and with the experience of so many managers travelling through the City revolving doors over the years, I am still in the don't know camp.

I have believed for a long time that what we need is stability and if Mancini is the man to nail our hats on then I'm more than happy to go with it.
I am impressed with what he done with the defence, even a makeshift one. I am very impressed with the fact that he seems quite comfortable to up the pressure on himself and the team by increasing the expectation and ambition of the club. His tactical and strategis changes were spot on. His past record speaks for itself. The thing that impresses me the most is the manner in which we got the points. In both games, we 1st won the arm wrestle and the battle, then went on to win the game. He does have much sterner tests to come against far better teams than Stoke and Wolves.

Our last manager wasn't too hot against "poor opposition", I reckon the test is how well we do against inferior opposition. We have done well against the better teams this season. Too early to tell though, but the signs are good.

[Swales4ever]

I'm sure Mancini corrected himself in that press conference and said "sorry no my contract is 3 and a half years" but if i'm mistaken it won't matter if he's on a short term deal because if we keep playing with the style and solidness like we are at the minute, they would be mad not to take up the option to give him the further 3 years, and that's even if we don't get in the top 4 this season. I'm convinced Roberto is the man to deliever success in the long term.

Agee Mate, as usual!
furthermore I would also underline once again early Renato's post from Turin about Mancio and the portogues Braggadocio comparison.

By the way, free of press shit, Mourinho was there just to do have a direct look on how he will be sacked out of next CL matchup, even if, according to some valuable italian commentators, chelsea style fit pretty good with the inter'one,

[Original Dub]

I like the way he reacts to a problem he sees there and then and has players switching flanks left right and centre to the point where I don't know what system we're using.... its bound to be confusing or at least keeping the opposition on their toes and has worked a dream so far...

But like I mentioned in another thread, the players are reacting well to the new guy and that has happened a lot of times before... Pearce's run when he took over was nothing short of fantastic, but once he stamped his style on the team, we saw a big change to generally negative football, as with Sven also...

Fingers crossed!!

[10.Goater_Legend]

I loved the way he bollocked Micah after he gave the ball away like a tit, he didn't fucking dare try anything fancy after that.

We have a world-class manager at the helm boys.

[Rag_hater]

Sounds the man for me he doesn't need any of that gelly BS.
Seems to have turned us around without any gelly.

[CityFanFromRome]

For those worried about Mourinho possibly taking Mancini's place, I'm sure if Mancio will keep doing as well as he has started there won't be a chance for Mourinho to come, and while I rate the Portuguese as a manager of course, I can't really stand him with his arrogance, so I'd much prefer for Mancini to succeed. But hey, if he fails which I don't think he will, the Mourinho option will be handy to have.

[10.Goater_Legend]

Well this was the statement when Mancini was apointed...

Manchester City FC can confirm that it has today terminated the contract of Mark Hughes.
In giving reason for the termination Chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak said:

“Prior to the current season beginning, with significant investment in players and infrastructure in place, the consensus between the Board and coaching staff was that appropriate agreed targets should be set for the 2009/2010 season.

“The targets were agreed as a result of the player acquisition strategy of the club being radically accelerated in the summer as a result of very favourable conditions for any buying club. It was also based on the fact that the infrastructure of the club had been overhauled completely at great cost in order to create the best possible environment for the team.

“A return of two wins in 11 Premier League games is clearly not in line with the targets that were agreed and set. Sheikh Mansour and the Board felt that there was no evidence that the situation would fundamentally change. This is a particularly difficult announcement given the personal investment over the past 15 months on all sides and we would like to put on record our respect for and thanks to Mark Hughes and we wish him the best in his future career.”

Manchester City Football Club can confirm the appointment, with immediate effect on a permanent contract, of Roberto Mancini and are also pleased to announce that Brian Kidd will join Roberto as assistant manager.

Commenting on the appointment, Khaldoon Al Mubarak said: “Roberto is a hugely experienced manager with a proven track record of winning trophies and championships. His experience and track record speak for themselves. What is absolutely clear is that Roberto believes in Manchester City’s potential to achieve at the highest level and importantly in his own ability to make this happen. My hope is that our incredible fans will join us in welcoming Roberto to the football club.”

Mark Bowen, Eddie Niedzwiecki, Kevin Hitchcock and Glyn Hodges have also left the Club and further appointments will be announced in due course.

Surely if he was on a 6-month deal with clause's the club would have stated that he was on a short-term deal there, no reason for them to lie to us. I'm sure Mancini is on a 3 and a half year deal and that the whole 6 month thing was just a translation issue. One thing's for sure it would be better if the club would come out and clarify the situation.

[Beefymcfc]

From the way Mancio was talking, there probably is a 6 month clause in the contract to allow both sides to fulfill their commitments. Mancio has stated that he has been set a Top 4 target this season, which he has backed up with talk of winning the title. If he doesn't fulfill that commitment the club then have the option to look elsewhere before nailing him to the mast.

A 3 and half year contract does sound strange in itself, so IMO, it is a stated, then unstated truth.

[Renato_CTID]

The more of Inter Milan fans are angry with their chairman Moratti when he replaced Mancio with Mourinho. Could we make the same mistake of Inter Milan replacing a number 1 with that Portuguese twat or anybody else? It'd be unbelievable for me!

I would have written your gold by myself, Renato_Lad

Let me stress the point once again:
Roberto his owner's first pic
Never saw in my life a tycoon to be idiot

Maybe you never know who Massimo Moratti really is! Nobody knows in England that Moratti family in the last twelve years gives him every year something like 80 ml pounds to spend for football. No one from his family ever asked Massimo to get back their money! Inter Milan is winning something only when powerful Mr Tronchetti Provera from Telecom company went into nerazzurri board.

[Swales4ever]

The more of Inter Milan fans are angry with their chairman Moratti when he replaced Mancio with Mourinho. Could we make the same mistake of Inter Milan replacing a number 1 with that Portuguese twat or anybody else? It'd be unbelievable for me!

I would have written your gold by myself, Renato_Lad

Let me stress the point once again:
Roberto his owner's first pic
Never saw in my life a tycoon to be idiot

Maybe you never know who Massimo Moratti really is! Nobody knows in England that Moratti family in the last twelve years gives him every year something like 80 ml pounds to spend for football. No one from his family ever asked Massimo to get back their money! Inter Milan is winning something only when powerful Mr Tronchetti Provera from Telecom company went into nerazzurri board.

Ok Renato, You got me! lol...
Mine was a general statement that intentionally overflew some of our poor country's worst example, for sake of loyalty.
Counting amongst my hobbies both history and economy, Iam much aware of the overal landscape...
as well as I am aware that mr. Massimo Moratti shares with his father Angelo little more than the surname, insofar the skill of running the role of a football team's chairman is concerned.

Nevertheless I think you will agree with the purpouse of my metaphor: usually wealthy businessmen, expecially those used to act on open international markets, free of our italian misbehaviours, are wiser and more clever than average people. So that once they appoint a professional of their choice, rather than inherited, they use to back and support him as much as possible.

[Good Times]

Renato, I just wanted to say that I enjoy reading your posts.

[JonnyAsh]

Even if we ended up a close 5th, I would be happy giving Mancini more time to build. I'm not saying we will end up 5th, but I think we have a good mentality now in the whole club.
It would be foolish to lose this, if we hang him for not reaching 4th place. as it happens, I do think we will make the top 4, but that should not be the overriding aspect in the future of Mancini's appointment, and I hope it doesn't all come down to Cappello's availability. Really, mancini should have been given 3 1/2 years from the off and none of this 6 months business

[Original Dub]

Even if we ended up a close 5th, I would be happy giving Mancini more time to build. I'm not saying we will end up 5th, but I think we have a good mentality now in the whole club.
It would be foolish to lose this, if we hang him for not reaching 4th place. as it happens, I do think we will make the top 4, but that should not be the overriding aspect in the future of Mancini's appointment, and I hope it doesn't all come down to Cappello's availability. Really, mancini should have been given 3 1/2 years from the off and none of this 6 months business

Well mate, its reasonable to say what you said, but the guy was brought in because the owners thought Hughes couldn't get us into the top four, so top four it has to be.

Hey Bob, why don't you make this a sticky - I thought you originally did and I thought it was a good idea, because its always going to be a big topic and saves lots of different threads about the manager after every match "I think Mancini is the bollox", "Mancini is gorgeous", "I knew the cunt wouldn't hack it", "Mancini would beat Hughes in a fight" etc...

Seriously though, its a daily topic pretty much, no?

[Wonderwall]

Even if we ended up a close 5th, I would be happy giving Mancini more time to build. I'm not saying we will end up 5th, but I think we have a good mentality now in the whole club.
It would be foolish to lose this, if we hang him for not reaching 4th place. as it happens, I do think we will make the top 4, but that should not be the overriding aspect in the future of Mancini's appointment, and I hope it doesn't all come down to Cappello's availability. Really, mancini should have been given 3 1/2 years from the off and none of this 6 months business

Well mate, its reasonable to say what you said, but the guy was brought in because the owners thought Hughes couldn't get us into the top four, so top four it has to be.

Hey Bob, why don't you make this a sticky - I thought you originally did and I thought it was a good idea, because its always going to be a big topic and saves lots of different threads about the manager after every match "I think Mancini is the bollox", "Mancini is gorgeous", "I knew the cunt wouldn't hack it", "Mancini would beat Hughes in a fight" etc...

Seriously though, its a daily topic pretty much, no?

I had a cull over new year and thought it was a debate that had seen its day after the initial furore, however, it does seem to pop back up all the time, so I will sticky it again