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Re: De Jong

Postby Mike J » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:18 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:
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Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


I have to say im still pissed off at that loss aswell.

I hope to fucking god the lads remember that in a few weeks.

dont think what i felt could ever be described as pissed off. i think i was more mortified that we were completely robbed. i still feel that today. i was proud of them that day.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Hazy » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:20 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


The term class is for ever form is temp,springs to mind, however if we had drawn 3-3 in the best Derby ever no thread.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:21 pm

Mike J wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


its you that makes me me laugh, calling one of our best players a cunt and saying he should fuck off. even though de jong was one of the better players on the day.

laughable.


He was shit on derby. No question about it. Especially in second half. Absolutely fucking horrendous.

He has definitely improved since but I don't think I will ever forget his spineless and gutless performance when we needed him to step up with a performance and effort.

And yeah, few minutes after the final whistle I did think he was a fucking cunt. I'm still pissed off but now I don't think he is a cunt anymore having had three months to calm down.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Mike J » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:23 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


its you that makes me me laugh, calling one of our best players a cunt and saying he should fuck off. even though de jong was one of the better players on the day.

laughable.


He was shit on derby. No question about it. Especially in second half. Absolutely fucking horrendous.

He has definitely improved since but I don't think I will ever forget his spineless and gutless performance when we needed him to step up with a performance and effort.

And yeah, few minutes after the final whistle I did think he was a fucking cunt. I'm still pissed off but now I don't think he is a cunt anymore having had three months to calm down.


that is just simply not true.
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Re: De Jong

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:27 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


its you that makes me me laugh, calling one of our best players a cunt and saying he should fuck off. even though de jong was one of the better players on the day.

laughable.


He was shit on derby. No question about it. Especially in second half. Absolutely fucking horrendous.

He has definitely improved since but I don't think I will ever forget his spineless and gutless performance when we needed him to step up with a performance and effort.

And yeah, few minutes after the final whistle I did think he was a fucking cunt. I'm still pissed off but now I don't think he is a cunt anymore having had three months to calm down.


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THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: De Jong

Postby bobadji » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:33 pm

xavi6 wrote:
King Kev wrote:De Jong is there to break up their play. 9 interceptions today would strongly suggest that he did this.

He also doesn't give the ball away very often, 25 successful passes out of 26.


Who do you think you are comin in here with your facts? Away with you!

;)


while we're in this thread, may as well show who got rid of King Kev. Xavi you knob, you've really gone and done it there.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Hazy » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:52 pm

The ball from Giggs, was as good as it gets simple class, unlucky for us it also fell to a master of his craft Owen, who before SWP or Richards could react had finished in world class style, Nothing to do with NDJ, we were victims of class players doing there stuff in a high pressure situation and bang we lost. Final word.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:10 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Mike J wrote:this is quite an amusing thread now.


Really?

I'm still fucking pissed off about our derby loss and De Jong's performance on that game.

Great to hear that derby loss makes you giggle.


its you that makes me me laugh, calling one of our best players a cunt and saying he should fuck off. even though de jong was one of the better players on the day.

laughable.


He was shit on derby. No question about it. Especially in second half. Absolutely fucking horrendous.

He has definitely improved since but I don't think I will ever forget his spineless and gutless performance when we needed him to step up with a performance and effort.

And yeah, few minutes after the final whistle I did think he was a fucking cunt. I'm still pissed off but now I don't think he is a cunt anymore having had three months to calm down.


I was going to say it is silly bringing up this thread because what you said, albeit ridiculous, was in the heat of the moment... but what you wrote above is just complete horseshit and its not the heat of the moment anymore.

The fact is De Jong was one of our best players in the first half of that game. For most of the second half we couldn't get out of our half so its not like he could change the game for us in that regard.

Now obvously you've already apologised for calling him as cunt and wanting him to go home, but to still maintain he was "spineless and gutless" is absolutely remarkable and it honestly has to be questioned whether you watched the match in the first place its that crazy.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Blue in North London » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:28 pm

De Jong is the least gutless and spineless player that I have watched in a blue shirt. The lad is a warrior. I think Essien would agree judging by his avoidance of two 50:50s with the Dutchman
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Re: De Jong

Postby edge275 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:43 pm

At first I was baffled as to how De Jong was worth 18m as I couldnt see anything from him to suggest otherwise.

This season though he's really come into his own and I am a De Jong fan now. Kudos to the guy!
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Re: De Jong

Postby zuricity » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:44 pm

Here's my take on it all.

De Jong was undoubtably worth the man of the match award for the simply reason that he played according to his 'skills' ( I'll include his characteristics like his strength, his body shape and build in that one word) and what he did was to simply not allow any Chelsea player to get the ball under control pointing towards our goal in his vicinity. If that meant as before my seat, he got to Anelka and kicked the ball out for a throw in, or roughed Essien up. Then so be it and he played the part.

Moreover, I think the terrier role suits him. HE is not a play maker rather a play-spoiler ( to our benefit) and we dare not ask much more than that of him.

Robbie for example , caused panic and chaos just by being on the ball and the 'itch' that was marking him was very physical and I thought quite lucky not to be carded more than once.

However, play maker is not De Jongs forte, but that's ok, we have other players doing that. Each player needs to know why the other is doing his work.

Now there have been times when all he has done is simply get in the way of his team mates.Whether that is him or the job he was asked to do, who knows ?

On saturday it struck me that he had his own agenda, because I felt Barry was very poor, just chasing shadows most of the time and it is as if De Jong wanted to show his mates how to win something. He clearly was over the (blue) moon when he ran over to the crowd near the Chelsea fans to throw his shirt into the crowd.

After the game I said to one of my mates, it's as if the team tore up the managers plan before the game and played for themselves

So for me , if he's been given the role or not, as long as he continues that 'icebreaker' role in midfield and sticks to it, i'll be dead happy. He finally won me over on Saturday.
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Re: De Jong

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:50 pm

zuricity wrote:Here's my take on it all.

De Jong was undoubtably worth the man of the match award for the simply reason that he played according to his 'skills' ( I'll include his characteristics like his strength, his body shape and build in that one word) and what he did was to simply not allow any Chelsea player to get the ball under control pointing towards our goal in his vicinity. If that meant as before my seat, he got to Anelka and kicked the ball out for a throw in, or roughed Essien up. Then so be it and he played the part.

Moreover, I think the terrier role suits him. HE is not a play maker rather a play-spoiler ( to our benefit) and we dare not ask much more than that of him.

Robbie for example , caused panic and chaos just by being on the ball and the 'itch' that was marking him was very physical and I thought quite lucky not to be carded more than once.

However, play maker is not De Jongs forte, but that's ok, we have other players doing that. Each player needs to know why the other is doing his work.

Now there have been times when all he has done is simply get in the way of his team mates.Whether that is him or the job he was asked to do, who knows ?

On saturday it struck me that he had his own agenda, because I felt Barry was very poor, just chasing shadows most of the time and it is as if De Jong wanted to show his mates how to win something. He clearly was over the (blue) moon when he ran over to the crowd near the Chelsea fans to throw his shirt into the crowd.

After the game I said to one of my mates, it's as if the team tore up the managers plan before the game and played for themselves

So for me , if he's been given the role or not, as long as he continues that 'icebreaker' role in midfield and sticks to it, i'll be dead happy. He finally won me over on Saturday.


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A PLAY STOPPER HE IS INDEED.. (AGREE ABOUT BARRY BUT IF HE HAS INDEED GOT A GROIN PROBLEM THEN IT ALL MAKES SENSE) SO IT,S HORSES FOR COURSES..HE WILL BE IN THE SIDE WHEN THAT KIND OF PLAY IS REQUIRED......i THINK IRELAND WILL BE IN THE SIDE MORE THAN DEJONG WILL BE.
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Re: De Jong

Postby zuricity » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:57 pm

You're right Carl. It's been finally made public that Barry was having problems with his hip, so all the time I've been thinking
he was a tosser, it turns out he's been playing very ,very slowly ! Shame really 'cos that's what we've got a squad for.

It's dangerous to play players when they are carrying injuries. eg Vince.

Edit...

By the way , about Ireland . You're probably right there too, this is what Fergie does very well, 'mix and match' for the right occasion and our management need to get that right as well.

For example Bolton. I'd drop Adebayor to the bench and start Bellamy and Teves up front - Speed. Then again, what do i know ?
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Re: De Jong

Postby ronk » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:12 pm

ant london wrote:
craigmcfc wrote:Is this thread still going? Topic locked would be the best post to be added



you read my mind

we should provide an empty room for people to start fights in on here. I think it would go down a storm


What's wrong with this one?


btw, any member of a midfield that doesn't get overrun against Chelsea on current form must have played well. There isn't a player in the world good enough to do that on his own.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Blue in North London » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:13 pm

De Jong is the least gutless and spineless player that I have watched in a blue shirt. The lad is a warrior. I think Essien would agree judging by his avoidance of two 50:50s with the Dutchman
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Re: De Jong

Postby Citizen of Oslo » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:50 pm

De Jong is becoming one of my favourites. Essien is one of the best in the world in his position. It didn't look like that on Saturday. He did very well De Jong. As for the United game, I hope there can come something good out of it for the semi finals, in the shape of even more determination and will to win after the manner we lost. This squad have got the ability. And De Jong gives his contributions.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Mr Miyagi » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:38 pm

To be honest I've not been impressed with De Jong at all, until last Saturday. In particular I remember getting really annoyed a few weeks ago when Hughes gave him the captain's armband for a few games.

It was like a different player turned up on Saturday. He single handedly destroyed Chelsea's attacking midfielders. If he plays like that all the time from now on then redemption is achieved
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Re: De Jong

Postby OhDannyBoy » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:46 am

NQDP in another shocking post/thread i see..

I swear hes blind and just listens to games.

Richard Dunne still the worst city player ever NQDP? and De Jong can fuck off can he?

Lol countys down the road mate
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Re: De Jong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:08 am

OhDannyBoy wrote:NQDP in another shocking post/thread i see..

I swear hes blind and just listens to games.

Richard Dunne still the worst city player ever NQDP? and De Jong can fuck off can he?

Lol countys down the road mate


Errrrmmmm.... when have I said "Richard Dunne is worst City player ever"???? Typical bullshit spouting wind up knobhead.
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Re: De Jong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:11 am

Blue in North London wrote:De Jong is the least gutless and spineless player that I have watched in a blue shirt. The lad is a warrior. I think Essien would agree judging by his avoidance of two 50:50s with the Dutchman


I wish he had showed that spirit in second half of the Derby instead of watching the game pass him by. Just for the record, I would've much preferred game winning performance from him against Rags than Chelsea although I'm obviously delighted he has turned his game around.

In fact, maybe he read this thread and thought "Yeah, I was shit in Derby and need to start working for this team". Who knows?
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