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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby john@staustell » Mon May 05, 2025 3:28 pm

Oh dear

Well they do say they want the same style at every level
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby branny » Mon May 05, 2025 3:32 pm

Keeper still has some growing to do I think.
Balotelli......that's a brilliant finish.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Sparklehorse » Mon May 05, 2025 4:03 pm

A grown up performance was required and it just wasn't there, we played like school kids making stupid errors. Every time Villa played the ball over the half way line they looked dangerous, pacy, aggressive in the tackle and won fair and square. I have a feeling the seniors will have exactly the same experience in their cup final. Pep really does have to come up with something new, a new approach, a different style of play, maybe one that actually suits one of the greatest strikers of our generation. Teams have worked us out and its old hat now. If we have another season anything like this one, it's time for him to go, it's been unbelievable but it ain't any more. So come on Pep show us something else.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Sparklehorse » Mon May 05, 2025 4:05 pm

Sparklehorse wrote:A grown up performance was required and it just wasn't there, we played like school kids making stupid errors. Every time Villa played the ball over the half way line they looked dangerous, pacy, aggressive in the tackle and won fair and square. I have a feeling the seniors will have exactly the same experience in their cup final. Pep really does have to come up with something new, a new approach, a different style of play, maybe one that actually suits one of the greatest strikers of our generation. Teams have worked us out and its old hat now. If we have another season anything like this one, it's time for him to go, it's been unbelievable but it ain't any more. So come on Pep show us something else.


....edit, "the greatest striker of our generation".... having his greatness coached out of him
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Mon May 05, 2025 4:40 pm

Sparklehorse wrote:A grown up performance was required and it just wasn't there, we played like school kids making stupid errors. Every time Villa played the ball over the half way line they looked dangerous, pacy, aggressive in the tackle and won fair and square. I have a feeling the seniors will have exactly the same experience in their cup final. Pep really does have to come up with something new, a new approach, a different style of play, maybe one that actually suits one of the greatest strikers of our generation. Teams have worked us out and its old hat now. If we have another season anything like this one, it's time for him to go, it's been unbelievable but it ain't any more. So come on Pep show us something else.


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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Scatman » Mon May 05, 2025 5:07 pm

Guardiola is even to blame for the kids getting beat. Next it'll be his fault City64 can't use his season ticket.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby nottsblue » Mon May 05, 2025 5:26 pm

Scatman wrote:Guardiola is even to blame for the kids getting beat. Next it'll be his fault City64 can't use his season ticket.

Did he also get the last Audi from the dealer?
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Sparklehorse » Mon May 05, 2025 5:41 pm

Scatman wrote:Guardiola is even to blame for the kids getting beat. Next it'll be his fault City64 can't use his season ticket.


The kids have been brilliant all season, not really playing anything like the first team and winning 20 odd games on the trot and performing very well. Unfortunately they played a bit like the first team today and it didn’t work.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Mon May 05, 2025 6:00 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Scatman wrote:Guardiola is even to blame for the kids getting beat. Next it'll be his fault City64 can't use his season ticket.

Did he also get the last Audi from the dealer?


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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Mon May 05, 2025 10:14 pm

Just missed too many chances and Villa with less chances put theirs away. Shit happens and sadly did in a final where we were below par. 20 wins in a row does suggest they know what they're doing.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby blues2win » Tue May 06, 2025 8:45 am

I very much doubt that Toure completely changed the approach of his team for the final. They won 20 straight which suggests he was doing something right. Disclaimer I don’t watch the U18s but how many posters here do? Doug certainly.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Tue May 06, 2025 8:55 am

blues2win wrote:I very much doubt that Toure completely changed the approach of his team for the final. They won 20 straight which suggests he was doing something right. Disclaimer I don’t watch the U18s but how many posters here do? Doug certainly.


Toure doesn't manage them.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby blues2win » Tue May 06, 2025 9:25 am

I up to Mase. I see Kolo is assistant manager. The point remains they were coached to 20 wins in a row and the league title suggests the coach was getting things right. One disappointing performance doesnt change that.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Tue May 06, 2025 9:39 am

blues2win wrote:I up to Mase. I see Kolo is assistant manager. The point remains they were coached to 20 wins in a row and the league title suggests the coach was getting things right. One disappointing performance doesnt change that.


From what I've read the standard of opposition hasn't been anywhere near Villa. You only need one team to know how to play against the sideways and backwards passing and Villa knew how to do that perfectly, in a final where it mattered.

More importantly there's no Plan B when City comes up against a team that knows how to counter that tactic, and that's from the Men's to the women and to the kids. We don't have a plan B at any level - that's worrying!
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby blues2win » Tue May 06, 2025 12:55 pm

Pep has used various different systems. Conventional back four with wingers wide, full backs as wingers with a packed central midfield and balls over the top to outwit high pressing man to man marking. He hates losing the ball upfield because he knows that end to end play beloved of fans doesnt suit the players he’s got.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Tue May 06, 2025 1:00 pm

blues2win wrote:Pep has used various different systems. Conventional back four with wingers wide, full backs as wingers with a packed central midfield and balls over the top to outwit high pressing man to man marking. He hates losing the ball upfield because he knows that end to end play beloved of fans doesnt suit the players he’s got.


Are you serious? When we're playing using Plan A and it's not working he rarely changes the tactics during a game. We've stuck with the same system ALL SEASON despite teams working it out.

I know we joke about Pep Lovers on here, but that's beyond anything ridiculous, to not be able to see that he refuses to change it when it's not working. Beyond bizarre
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby blues2win » Tue May 06, 2025 1:24 pm

I made detailed points which you totally ignored.
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 06, 2025 1:47 pm

Mase wrote:
blues2win wrote:Pep has used various different systems. Conventional back four with wingers wide, full backs as wingers with a packed central midfield and balls over the top to outwit high pressing man to man marking. He hates losing the ball upfield because he knows that end to end play beloved of fans doesnt suit the players he’s got.


Are you serious? When we're playing using Plan A and it's not working he rarely changes the tactics during a game. We've stuck with the same system ALL SEASON despite teams working it out.

I know we joke about Pep Lovers on here, but that's beyond anything ridiculous, to not be able to see that he refuses to change it when it's not working. Beyond bizarre


Have you noticed that Muppet Stupot hardly ever responds to your posts whereas if Id written the above post he would be banging one out with one hand and typing with his other :lol:
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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby stupot » Tue May 06, 2025 2:02 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Mase wrote:
blues2win wrote:Pep has used various different systems. Conventional back four with wingers wide, full backs as wingers with a packed central midfield and balls over the top to outwit high pressing man to man marking. He hates losing the ball upfield because he knows that end to end play beloved of fans doesnt suit the players he’s got.


Are you serious? When we're playing using Plan A and it's not working he rarely changes the tactics during a game. We've stuck with the same system ALL SEASON despite teams working it out.

I know we joke about Pep Lovers on here, but that's beyond anything ridiculous, to not be able to see that he refuses to change it when it's not working. Beyond bizarre


Have you noticed that Muppet Stupot hardly ever responds to your posts whereas if Id written the above post he would be banging one out with one hand and typing with his other :lol:

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Re: FA youth cup final 2025 Monday

Postby Mase » Tue May 06, 2025 3:48 pm

100% OD. Confirmed now.
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