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Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:09 pm
by nottsblue
ruralblue wrote:In fact the opening credits of motd always have the winning team lifting the trophy to open the show. This year it will probably show Gerrard rallying the troops instead!

Suarez boo-hooing it after the Palace game, then cutting to Yaya waltzing through Villa to score our 100th would be nice

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:36 pm
by MUS
Tesl wrote:I think some of us are getting a little over sensitive here ....

Are we suggesting everyone in the media has gotten together and decided "Lets only say last years champions, and not current champions, that'll show em!"

Of all things to get annoyed about this is about the stupidest one I've seen yet.


Got* :)

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:52 pm
by phips
we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:06 am
by Ted Hughes
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.


Bollocks.

we are THE Champions & the City colours are attached to the Premier League trophy until such time as someone takes it from us, or we win it again at the end of this season.

That is how Utd & everyone else have always been referred to & tbf, that is how we were referred to for the most part on Sky.

We are not last year's champions, the season finished in fucking May for a start. We are THE CHAMPIONS. IT IS OUR RIGHT TO BE RESPECTED AS SUCH.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:23 am
by twosips
MOTD2 referred to us as the champions and to be honest, most have. I've not really heard this 'last year's champions' thing at all.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:23 am
by john68
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.


Following your logic,the moment the final whistle went, we were champions but the moment the final whistle went, the season being over at that point, meant we weren't.

So how come we bothered having a parade?

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:23 am
by twosips
john68 wrote:
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.


Following your logic,the moment the final whistle went, we were champions but the moment the final whistle went, the season being over at that point, meant we weren't.

So how come we bothered having a parade?


Excellent.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:12 am
by DoomMerchant
john68 wrote:
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.


Following your logic,the moment the final whistle went, we were champions but the moment the final whistle went, the season being over at that point, meant we weren't.

So how come we bothered having a parade?


i dunno if Phips watched the match today, but the US commentary team from NBC referred to us as "the reigning champions" and "the champions" about half a dozen times. I'm not too worried about it. And they certainly weren't showing a City bias in stating it that way, because they were mostly cunt-ish at times. David Pleat is fucking a special blend of horrible.

cheers

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 am
by ruralblue
Ted Hughes wrote:
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.


Bollocks.

we are THE Champions & the City colours are attached to the Premier League trophy until such time as someone takes it from us, or we win it again at the end of this season.

That is how Utd & everyone else have always been referred to & tbf, that is how we were referred to for the most part on Sky.

We are not last year's champions, the season finished in fucking May for a start. We are THE CHAMPIONS. IT IS OUR RIGHT TO BE RESPECTED AS SUCH.



What Ted said!. Well just the bollox bit!

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:05 am
by Wooders
I sort of see phips' point, the slate is currently clean, and we have to now earn the trophy, same as any other team, despite last seasons achievement

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:14 am
by zuricity
phips wrote:we are last year's champions. "last year" refers to last season. "champions" means we finished top. when did we finish top? last season.
thus, we are last year's champions. we--nor anyone else--can be this year's champions at this point, or any point up until the end of the season in May.

there's nothing wrong with the statement. don't be so sensitive.



This year is 2014

Last year was 2013.

Last year does not refer to the last season.

The season that ended in may 2013 was won by non other than the Rags. You may also reflect on the fact that their defense of their PL titles was the worst on record.

They are last years champions.

This year City won the League and therefore can be described as the Champions in 2014. Or the current Champions.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:17 am
by Wooders
All this is well and good but the "campeones" chants during the first game of the new season make me cringe to be honest

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:11 am
by Bridge'srightfoot
twosips wrote:MOTD2 referred to us as the champions and to be honest, most have. I've not really heard this 'last year's champions' thing at all.

I've not heard anyone say it.
But they're aren't enough threads about media bias on here, let's get some more on.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:23 am
by Ted Hughes
Sky yesterday introuduced it something along the lines of, next up 'last year's champions Manchester City..' .They didn't continue with that theme, probably because some irate fucker phoned them up or possibly even Souness or Quinn put them straight, as tbf, most footballers have more respect for stuff like that.

But 'last year's champions' isn't something you say by accident, you have to actually go out of your way to say it rather than just; 'champions'.

The whole fucking theme of this pre season has been about airbrushing City out of the picture; Chelsea this, Arsenal that, Louis Van Gneck reviving the rags, the usual Liverpool bullshit, let's get rid of last season & start afresh as it didn't go to plan. Well they can fuck off.

And I thought it was brilliant when the fans started singing it after we scored, just to remind all these cunts in the media etc who have intentionally tried to forget who the champions actually are.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:47 am
by Nigels Tackle
Ted Hughes wrote:Sky yesterday introuduced it something along the lines of, next up 'last year's champions Manchester City..' .They didn't continue with that theme, probably because some irate fucker phoned them up or possibly even Souness or Quinn put them straight, as tbf, most footballers have more respect for stuff like that.

But 'last year's champions' isn't something you say by accident, you have to actually go out of your way to say it rather than just; 'champions'.

The whole fucking theme of this pre season has been about airbrushing City out of the picture; Chelsea this, Arsenal that, Louis Van Gneck reviving the rags, the usual Liverpool bullshit, let's get rid of last season & start afresh as it didn't go to plan. Well they can fuck off.

And I thought it was brilliant when the fans started singing it after we scored, just to remind all these cunts in the media etc who have intentionally tried to forget who the champions actually are.


we didn't win it though
liverpool lost it
or at least that's the conclusion i have drawn from recent media coverage

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:51 am
by Ted Hughes
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Sky yesterday introuduced it something along the lines of, next up 'last year's champions Manchester City..' .They didn't continue with that theme, probably because some irate fucker phoned them up or possibly even Souness or Quinn put them straight, as tbf, most footballers have more respect for stuff like that.

But 'last year's champions' isn't something you say by accident, you have to actually go out of your way to say it rather than just; 'champions'.

The whole fucking theme of this pre season has been about airbrushing City out of the picture; Chelsea this, Arsenal that, Louis Van Gneck reviving the rags, the usual Liverpool bullshit, let's get rid of last season & start afresh as it didn't go to plan. Well they can fuck off.

And I thought it was brilliant when the fans started singing it after we scored, just to remind all these cunts in the media etc who have intentionally tried to forget who the champions actually are.


we didn't win it though
liverpool lost it
or at least that's the conclusion i have drawn from recent media coverage


It's not just Liverpool. How many times has it been mentioned already this season, that Arsenal were top of the league for ages ? Then they bring up how Chelsea beat all the top sides. Then of course the Liverpool bullshit. Then they mention how all have strengthened.

Souness yesterday mentioned it from a different angle; that City have the mentality that they could come through & win it, they had done it before, & they look the same now.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:03 am
by Cocacolajojo1
I've not heard anyone say it.
But they're aren't enough threads about media bias on here, let's get some more on.


One general media bias thread should really do it. Of course media bias can be discussed when ever it's relevant but one thread into which most of these posts could be concentrated would be great. One Rag-thread would also do just fine by me.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:26 am
by Foreverinbluedreams
Cocacolajojo wrote:
I've not heard anyone say it.
But they're aren't enough threads about media bias on here, let's get some more on.


One general media bias thread should really do it. Of course media bias can be discussed when ever it's relevant but one thread into which most of these posts could be concentrated would be great. One Rag-thread would also do just fine by me.


And me.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:29 am
by Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
I've not heard anyone say it.
But they're aren't enough threads about media bias on here, let's get some more on.


One general media bias thread should really do it. Of course media bias can be discussed when ever it's relevant but one thread into which most of these posts could be concentrated would be great. One Rag-thread would also do just fine by me.


And me.


I thought we had one ?

I can start another if you insist.

Re: "Last Year's Champions Manchester City"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:31 am
by MUS
MOTD2 started yesterday with "We go again", and showed the liverpool match first.

It's actually quite funny how unashamedly biased it all is