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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby charvet_wonderland » Sat May 18, 2013 7:25 am

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Not ONE player has publicly wished Mancini well.........whys that then?



Just a wild guess I wonder what song will be 1st at the ground on Sunday............whys that then.


He won things and comes across as a nice guy in interviews
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 18, 2013 7:30 am

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Lee_R wrote:Do you want to waste your time?

If so .. read on. Absolutely horrible what some people can get away with publishing.

I'm genuinely curious. Why is this the WORST article EVER written?


Blundin el! Tongue in cheek a BIT..

But I reckon its

20% bullshit
20% about slaggin Mancini off
20% about slaggin City off in general
20% guesswork
10% about Mancini having his eyebrows shaped

and 10% true

100% would never be written about the rags

IMO
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby sandman » Sat May 18, 2013 7:47 am

I see your WORST article EVER written and raise you;

Eddie Jordan is part of a consortium on the verge of taking over Manchester City and installing Gordon Strachan as manager. (News of the World)


I cannot quote the original article for obvious reasons but here is the Chinners on it;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4526409.stm
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Hazy2 » Sat May 18, 2013 7:53 am

Nothing all week and Boom, "Two saturdays of spin" Message to City stop it....
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat May 18, 2013 8:58 am

Dubciteh wrote:He was right to have a go at hart after the derby, some of the stuff described in the article seem fine to me, players need an ear bashing from time to time.just look at bacon face and his hair dryer, he is lauded for that treatment!


As Taggart has said, the hair dryer became an urban myth, used more than he ever did. But it happened, as did the boot he threw. But I can't imagine he ever had to be separated from a player as it says Mancini and Tevez were or as we saw with Balotelli.

I'm not on favour of a sergeant major type, constantly screaming at the players, but if you are going down that line, you need to be unquestionably in charge. If the incident with Tevez is true, Mancini had two options - knock him out or throw him out of the club. The same goes around the incident in Munich - Mancini made a threat and when it came to it, didn't have the authority to follow it through. At that point, there's no use trying to be the ultimate disciplinarian as the players know you're not really in charge.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Lev Bronstein » Sat May 18, 2013 9:14 am

Or you could have the headline:-
"Club gives in to over-paid Prima Donnas efforts to undermine Mancini"



It's all a matter of spin.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat May 18, 2013 9:15 am

ant london wrote:Other than the hysterical tone, I don't really see what is wrong with the article in content.

As Goataldo says, some nuggets of truth in there I am positive.

Also, as regards a "blanket ban" on comments, I would be certain they'd been told absolutely no negative or "happy you're gone" type comments. But no-one has even said that they wish him well, and I am positive that if they wanted to say that there would be no issue from the club's side. The fact that there hasn't been a peep of wellwishing says it all IMO


This is obviously true, & I don't think it's fair to blame the club for this.

Ladyman has been shit stirring at City for a long time, well before Mancini came, & had some minor contact there who dishes the dirt. He has probably gained one or two players on his 'grass' list now as well.

Plenty of people have known about these stories for some time & have referred to shit happening even when it appeared Mancini was staying. They have got it from the horse's mouth, through knowing players & staff personally, not the club tipping people off.

It's not nice, or very fair, that this has come out when Mancini can't give his side of the story, but it's not nice for everyone to blame it on the club orchestrating it either. People have been talking for a long time & the journo's have been jotting it all down, waiting for the moment to release it.

The moment has arrived.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat May 18, 2013 9:57 am

Dubciteh wrote:He was right to have a go at hart after the derby, some of the stuff described in the article seem fine to me, players need an ear bashing from time to time.just look at bacon face and his hair dryer, he is lauded for that treatment!


And the infamous double training session. It was well known even at the time that the other one was tactics walkthrough. I never saw anything wrong with that. Players need bollocking every now and then. That's integral part of football.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat May 18, 2013 10:01 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:He was right to have a go at hart after the derby, some of the stuff described in the article seem fine to me, players need an ear bashing from time to time.just look at bacon face and his hair dryer, he is lauded for that treatment!


And the infamous double training session. It was well known even at the time that the other one was tactics walkthrough. I never saw anything wrong with that. Players need bollocking every now and then. That's integral part of football.


They'd only be buying more shit, playing golf, or setting fire to their bathrooms because they've got fuck all to do if they weren't training anyway.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Crossie » Sat May 18, 2013 10:14 am

Good cop bad cop.

Whoever comes in now will have it easy because the comparison between the new guy and Bob will probably be like chalk and cheese. Bob did the hard work, the next guy will reap even more rewards.

You could clearly see in some of this seasons games, like Southampton away and the cup final that something was wrong. Yet we still finished second and got to a final.

Just wait until the air is cleared, fresh ideas and a couple of new players. Next season will be better.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Hazy2 » Sat May 18, 2013 10:18 am

Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat May 18, 2013 10:58 am

Hazy2 wrote:Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.


It seems spin is needed if half the retards on here can't see that Mancini's position was untenable through his own shortcomings

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

Rightly or wrongly, the likes of Hart and Kompany are virtually in sellable at city, so Mancini couldn't just ship those out who he didn't get on with - and that's where his problem lies, he hasn't got a fucking clue how to deal with people other than getting rid.

Whilst the saying goes that no one player is bigger than the club, the same is also true for the manager.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Mase » Sat May 18, 2013 11:04 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.



If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby spiny » Sat May 18, 2013 11:09 am

Poisonous vitriol designed to appeal to anti City and sell copy. Ladyman, Herbert, Ogden and others have consistently peddled their negativity from London, often just regurgitating the same gossip, rumour and innuendo without substantiating stories with direct quotes. All clubs have troubles.

Whatever his faults, Mancini won trophies and made enemies by gategrashing the Sky Four.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby City64 » Sat May 18, 2013 11:12 am

Err ......

People within the game of football only say NICE THINGS about taggert because they HAVE TO or they dont make a living !
Not really here

Fuck VAR
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat May 18, 2013 11:13 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.


It seems spin is needed if half the retards on here can't see that Mancini's position was untenable through his own shortcomings

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

Rightly or wrongly, the likes of Hart and Kompany are virtually in sellable at city, so Mancini couldn't just ship those out who he didn't get on with - and that's where his problem lies, he hasn't got a fucking clue how to deal with people other than getting rid.

Whilst the saying goes that no one player is bigger than the club, the same is also true for the manager.


Unprofessional. I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone saidvfew harsh words to them.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 18, 2013 11:17 am

Any word from Vinnie? I'm not sure his Mrs has even commented on recent events.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Risby » Sat May 18, 2013 11:22 am

Mase wrote:
If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!


To them, their wages are normal. Most of them don't have any concept of money as they are used to buying what they want, when they want.

Because this is the norm for all of them, like us in our jobs, doesn't matter how much you earn, eventually, you are only going to take so much before you bite back.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sat May 18, 2013 11:30 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone said a few harsh words to them.


Absolutely spot on. You're paid to do a job, you fucking do it. Your own personal pride should make you do your best at whatever is in front of you.
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Re: The WORST article EVER written.

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat May 18, 2013 11:52 am

Mase wrote:
If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!


That's such a fucking lazy answer, I dont know where to start.

How much money someone earns does not change the basic management science of people management

I've gone from earning £2 an hour, to earning money that I could only dream of a few years ago. But in every job i've ever done, regardless how much money I earned for that job, the quality of my output has always been down to three issues

1: Personal pride
2: The money
3: How much I wanted to work for my manager

The point that i'm trying to illustrate is that regardless how much you earn, that is only one part of the eqaution. The remaining parts of the equation are based on your own personal pride in your work, and how much you want to work for your boss. (Eg, their motivational ability)

In city's case this season, every player would be happy with number 2 - so you are guaranteed a third of an effort, and there will be a differing level of personal pride, so lets say the players efforts are 50% of their maximum without any influence. The remaining motivation to draw out that extra 50% comes from the inspiration and motivation of those around them, and in particular their manager.

If the manager doesnt inspire you, you will rarely get anything more than a half arsed performance out of most players,

So you need to take the idea of a millionaire footballer, and bring it back the the basic point that they are human beings, and have the identical emotional needs for motivation, encouragement and developmemt that you and I do.
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