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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 8:00 am

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT MANCINI FFS. He was pulling his stunts even before Mancini came. Hell, he was pulling his stunts with rags as well.

This guy quit on Manchester City Football Club. He shat on supporters. People, who at the end of the day, pay his wages. The owners who had provided him great surroundings for success. But more than anything, and this I will NEVER understand on personal level, he shat on his teammates. There should be NO way back from that. I really mean that. Regardless of where he came from or anything. There should be NO WAY back from that. No matter how good these people are at their line of duty, they are fucking cancer to TEAM around them. If I'd had person like that in my team in my working life I would NEVER forgive him/her. Even if we had shit clueless bully boy boss, which by the way has been case many times in my working life.

That sort of attitude is fucking lowest kind and if there's one thing I will teach to my son in this life is NEVER TO QUIT ON YOUR TEAM (may the team be family, friends, work or football). That's just not right.


Him quitting had nothing to do with Mancini? Revisionist history at its finest.

Like I said you can't rationally discuss this issue as you're unable to discuss any blame for your man.


Now that is amazingly foolish comment showing that you didn't read my post at all. And you are talking about "my man". Get a grip.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 8:03 am

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What he did was morally wrong and if I were in charge I would've booted him out right there and then.


belongs in the "Mancini's biggest mistake" thread maybe?


Honestly, when he came back I thought it was massive massive mistake by the club. I was left with the impression that it wasn't Mancini who brought him back but both had to eat humble pie. Could be wrong there. And eventually Mancini did welcome him back with open arms which for me was a massive mistake.

Bringing him back send a clear signal, you are all free to take your liberties as much as you want and quitting your team, may it be completely or in training or in mid-game, is no biggie.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Goataldo » Wed May 15, 2013 8:05 am

How can a speculative thread about Tevez to Monaco, in the current climate, not also be about Mancini? The latter is the reason I think it's bolloxs. HOw far can you bury a hatchet/9 iron?
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 8:07 am

Original Dub wrote:He should never have refused to warm up. But I have little doubt in my mind that there were two cunts involved. Him and Mancini.



Like I said, he may or may not have some vague reasons for his quitting and maybe Mancini was acting bullishly, I don't know. But it's not just quitting on your manager. It's quitting on supporters and owners and especially your teammates. Talk up (behind the closed doors) if you feel you aren't being treated properly (provided you share a common language that is). But quitting......I don't know.... it seems that people don't get what I'm trying to say. It's just not on for me.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed May 15, 2013 8:12 am

The way the weather has been the last few weeks barring the summer two days i swear if someone offered me a get out i'd be on the first plane to Monaco.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 8:13 am

lets all have a disco wrote:The way the weather has been the last few weeks barring the summer two days i swear if someone offered me a get out i'd be on the first plane to Monaco.


It'd be funny. Tevez on the left, Mancini on the right and you between them to keep them from fighting with each other. And obviously provide translations.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Wed May 15, 2013 8:15 am

Tev in Munich was bad yes, but ultimately he's our best player and loosing him would significantly weaken the side.

NQDP it honestly just looks like you're looking for a fight in this thread. I think a lot of us are miffed at the moment but dragging up what happened in Munich isn't the best thing to be discussed at this time.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed May 15, 2013 8:19 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:The way the weather has been the last few weeks barring the summer two days i swear if someone offered me a get out i'd be on the first plane to Monaco.


It'd be funny. Tevez on the left, Mancini on the right and you between them to keep them from fighting with each other. And obviously provide translations.




I'd like to do that cushty job of filming training and the goings on around the place.I could just see myself with a camera filming the lads getting onto their yachts after training then pissing off to the casino for a spot of black jack then to the beach (obviously).
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Slim » Wed May 15, 2013 8:22 am

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT MANCINI FFS. He was pulling his stunts even before Mancini came. Hell, he was pulling his stunts with rags as well.

This guy quit on Manchester City Football Club. He shat on supporters. People, who at the end of the day, pay his wages. The owners who had provided him great surroundings for success. But more than anything, and this I will NEVER understand on personal level, he shat on his teammates. There should be NO way back from that. I really mean that. Regardless of where he came from or anything. There should be NO WAY back from that. No matter how good these people are at their line of duty, they are fucking cancer to TEAM around them. If I'd had person like that in my team in my working life I would NEVER forgive him/her. Even if we had shit clueless bully boy boss, which by the way has been case many times in my working life.

That sort of attitude is fucking lowest kind and if there's one thing I will teach to my son in this life is NEVER TO QUIT ON YOUR TEAM (may the team be family, friends, work or football). That's just not right.


Him quitting had nothing to do with Mancini? Revisionist history at its finest.

Like I said you can't rationally discuss this issue as you're unable to discuss any blame for your man.


He put in a transfer request under Hughes as well mate.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 8:27 am

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Tev in Munich was bad yes, but ultimately he's our best player and loosing him would significantly weaken the side.

NQDP it honestly just looks like you're looking for a fight in this thread. I think a lot of us are miffed at the moment but dragging up what happened in Munich isn't the best thing to be discussed at this time.


Perhaps you are right. Not picking fight though. Just talking about the principles that I think are principles of any succesfull football team and ones that I hope would be principles of Manchester City now and in the future. Just keeping some sort of standards to provide platform for comradrie and working together from top to bottom.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed May 15, 2013 8:37 am

In these days of FFP, and with Tevez due to walk for zilch next summer which he surely would - if you ever believed he would sign any new contract at City you live in a deluded world - why not flog him now and get some money for him?

The guy shit on our club and then sauntered back in. Great player, of that theres no doubt, but Ill never ever like the guy and wont cry any tears when hes gone.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Mike J » Wed May 15, 2013 8:43 am

What happened in Munich was disgraceful, i wanted him gone when it happened. He hated the manager but went the wrong way about it completely.

He apologised and since then he has put an absolute fucking shift in on the pitch nearly every time he is on it, more so than nearly every player we have. Infact aside from Zabba he's my player of the year.

I want him to stay, possibly the best player ive ever seen in a blue shirt and i think there is still more to come from him.

Sadly cant see him signing a new contract though somehow! he wants to go back Boca doesnt he?
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed May 15, 2013 8:45 am

I'd sell him if they're prepared to pay good money.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed May 15, 2013 9:12 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What he did was morally wrong and if I were in charge I would've booted him out right there and then.


belongs in the "Mancini's biggest mistake" thread maybe?


Honestly, when he came back I thought it was massive massive mistake by the club. I was left with the impression that it wasn't Mancini who brought him back but both had to eat humble pie. Could be wrong there. And eventually Mancini did welcome him back with open arms which for me was a massive mistake.

Bringing him back send a clear signal, you are all free to take your liberties as much as you want and quitting your team, may it be completely or in training or in mid-game, is no biggie.

But would you have rather us not won the league? Because if he didn't come back, we wouldn't have.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 15, 2013 9:17 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What he did was morally wrong and if I were in charge I would've booted him out right there and then.


belongs in the "Mancini's biggest mistake" thread maybe?


Honestly, when he came back I thought it was massive massive mistake by the club. I was left with the impression that it wasn't Mancini who brought him back but both had to eat humble pie. Could be wrong there. And eventually Mancini did welcome him back with open arms which for me was a massive mistake.

Bringing him back send a clear signal, you are all free to take your liberties as much as you want and quitting your team, may it be completely or in training or in mid-game, is no biggie.

But would you have rather us not won the league? Because if he didn't come back, we wouldn't have.


Let's not even go there.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed May 15, 2013 9:25 am

He wouldn't have come back if I'd been running the club, but he did, & he's put more into City than anyone else since then, so imo he's earned himself a 2nd chance. I don't know if he still hated Mancini or whether they had patched things up, but he didn't play as if he hated Mancini & put everything in.

I hope we keep him.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 am

Ted Hughes wrote:He wouldn't have come back if I'd been running the club, but he did, & he's put more into City than anyone else since then, so imo he's earned himself a 2nd chance. I don't know if he still hated Mancini or whether they had patched things up, but he didn't play as if he hated Mancini & put everything in.

I hope we keep him.


I agree. I didn't think he had it in him to keep his trap shut and knuckle down, bit he's had an excellent 14 months.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 am

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Perhaps you are right. Not picking fight though. Just talking about the principles that I think are principles of any succesfull football team and ones that I hope would be principles of Manchester City now and in the future. Just keeping some sort of standards to provide platform for comradrie and working together from top to bottom.


He's definitely not the most holistic of players so perhaps we'll see just how important the Vision is.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby MilnersJaw » Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
THIS IS NOT ABOUT MANCINI FFS. He was pulling his stunts even before Mancini came. Hell, he was pulling his stunts with rags as well.

This guy quit on Manchester City Football Club. He shat on supporters. People, who at the end of the day, pay his wages. The owners who had provided him great surroundings for success. But more than anything, and this I will NEVER understand on personal level, he shat on his teammates. There should be NO way back from that. I really mean that. Regardless of where he came from or anything. There should be NO WAY back from that. No matter how good these people are at their line of duty, they are fucking cancer to TEAM around them. If I'd had person like that in my team in my working life I would NEVER forgive him/her. Even if we had shit clueless bully boy boss, which by the way has been case many times in my working life.

That sort of attitude is fucking lowest kind and if there's one thing I will teach to my son in this life is NEVER TO QUIT ON YOUR TEAM (may the team be family, friends, work or football). That's just not right.


Quinn. Footballers should be able to be sacked for gross misconduct like the rest of us. Fine dock his wages for refusing to play, but fucking off to play golf in another country should be stackable on the spot with no pay off as its gross misconduct. Fine we would lose a player and some potential money for reselling but it would send a powerful message.
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Re: Tevez and monaco

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed May 15, 2013 10:14 am

MilnersJaw wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
THIS IS NOT ABOUT MANCINI FFS. He was pulling his stunts even before Mancini came. Hell, he was pulling his stunts with rags as well.

This guy quit on Manchester City Football Club. He shat on supporters. People, who at the end of the day, pay his wages. The owners who had provided him great surroundings for success. But more than anything, and this I will NEVER understand on personal level, he shat on his teammates. There should be NO way back from that. I really mean that. Regardless of where he came from or anything. There should be NO WAY back from that. No matter how good these people are at their line of duty, they are fucking cancer to TEAM around them. If I'd had person like that in my team in my working life I would NEVER forgive him/her. Even if we had shit clueless bully boy boss, which by the way has been case many times in my working life.

That sort of attitude is fucking lowest kind and if there's one thing I will teach to my son in this life is NEVER TO QUIT ON YOUR TEAM (may the team be family, friends, work or football). That's just not right.


Yep an even more powerful message when the Rags won the league because of it. That'll teach him.
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