What was Bobby"s biggest mistake?

[Florida Blue]

Trying to outsmart others with out-of-the-box (in the sense they did not make sense for what players he had, not saying he re-invented the wheel) and not admitting they weren't working, and trying over and over again. The 352 is the perfect failure.

Also tactical moves that were shocking, reactive and at times extremely negative to what was happening in the match. Also, the players never seemed to want to play for him,, there was no excitement this year.

[Swales4ever]

And this kind of attitude ruins employees moral and creates resentment and you can forget about going that "extra" mile working for a person with this mentality.

I find it amazing, a former army officer and a businessman, calling discipline to blame.

Also the way the Club PR has been instructed to leak these shits out instead to have Top Management coming out and showing some dignified guts on their respectable private enterprising decision is embarrassing, just to understate it.

I frankly can't recall neither big egoes at Inter Milan and Lazio, nor unpaid youngsters and second string players at Fiorentina, moaning for discipline and solid working.... and they were living and playing in the lazy Italy, by the way.

Wouldn't rather be too much of a revolutionary idea the arrogance to have multimillionaires soft cunts like Joe Hart and Samir Nasri remembered their duties?

[john@staustell]

3 at the back was a big mistake. Doing it again was a bigger one. Then doing it yet again............

As soon as they move into that we cant pick up the right men, or any men at all. Every time. Insane stubborn-ness.

[Ted Hughes]

And this kind of attitude ruins employees moral and creates resentment and you can forget about going that "extra" mile working for a person with this mentality.

I find it amazing, a former army officer and a businessman, calling discipline to blame.

Also the way the Club PR has been instructed to leak these shits out instead to have Top Management coming out and showing some dignified guts on their respectable private enterprising decision is embarrassing, just to understate it.

I frankly can't recall neither big egoes at Inter Milan and Lazio, nor unpaid youngsters and second string players at Fiorentina, moaning for discipline and solid working.... and they were living and playing in the lazy Italy, by the way.

Wouldn't rather be too much of a revolutionary idea the arrogance to have multimillionaires soft cunts like Joe Hart and Samir Nasri remembered their duties?

The guy who leaked this works for Sunderland. It's got fuck all to do with our club's PR, just someone giving an opinion.

He, unlike you, is not bad mouthing anyone at City.

[carl_feedthegoat]

And this kind of attitude ruins employees moral and creates resentment and you can forget about going that "extra" mile working for a person with this mentality.

I find it amazing, a former army officer and a businessman, calling discipline to blame.

Also the way the Club PR has been instructed to leak these shits out instead to have Top Management coming out and showing some dignified guts on their respectable private enterprising decision is embarrassing, just to understate it.

I frankly can't recall neither big egoes at Inter Milan and Lazio, nor unpaid youngsters and second string players at Fiorentina, moaning for discipline and solid working.... and they were living and playing in the lazy Italy, by the way.

Wouldn't rather be too much of a revolutionary idea the arrogance to have multimillionaires soft cunts like Joe Hart and Samir Nasri remembered their duties?

Ive never had a mutiny on my hands.

Ex and current employees comments cannot be ignored,like I said before he was eventually sacked , the truth will come out.

[Swales4ever]

3 at the back was a big mistake. Doing it again was a bigger one. Then doing it yet again............

As soon as they move into that we cant pick up the right men, or any men at all. Every time. Insane stubborn-ness.

Partly agreed.

Correct from a mere technical point of view, as I've said many times, but wrong for the sake of enhancement of a top Club side.
I know that tactical competence is still largely perceived like a secondary duty in England, but to say that top defenders, earning 100k/w and more, don't fit the bill of having different competences available for the swap is just unprofessional.

[kennyboy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22523981

[MilnersJaw]

He might just come across as arrogant because of the language barrier or culture difference. To be fair slagging nasri off in public worked, he started playing better

[Ted Hughes]

Also, not playing Lescott was a major factor.

[Swales4ever]

Ive never had a mutiny on my hands.

Ex and current employees comments cannot be ignored,like I said before he was eventually sacked , the truth will come out.

well General,
we may easily find a broking point; now the clueless arrogant dictator has been put where he belongs, so we the former path to glory can easily reinstated.

Certainly we are brothers in understanding that the Club is what only matters.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Ive never had a mutiny on my hands.

Ex and current employees comments cannot be ignored,like I said before he was eventually sacked , the truth will come out.

You let those peasants share their opinions how they think casino should be run? Right.....

[Swales4ever]

And this kind of attitude ruins employees moral and creates resentment and you can forget about going that "extra" mile working for a person with this mentality.

I find it amazing, a former army officer and a businessman, calling discipline to blame.

Also the way the Club PR has been instructed to leak these shits out instead to have Top Management coming out and showing some dignified guts on their respectable private enterprising decision is embarrassing, just to understate it.

I frankly can't recall neither big egoes at Inter Milan and Lazio, nor unpaid youngsters and second string players at Fiorentina, moaning for discipline and solid working.... and they were living and playing in the lazy Italy, by the way.

Wouldn't rather be too much of a revolutionary idea the arrogance to have multimillionaires soft cunts like Joe Hart and Samir Nasri remembered their duties?

The guy who leaked this works for Sunderland. It's got fuck all to do with our club's PR, just someone giving an opinion.

He, unlike you, is not bad mouthing anyone at City.

fuck off. well and properly.
You are not allowed to cheat me just to add a stupid and arrogant point to your relieved resurgent hatred.

Graceful on death is a minimum requirement, even underground.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Ive never had a mutiny on my hands.

Ex and current employees comments cannot be ignored,like I said before he was eventually sacked , the truth will come out.

You let those peasants share their opinions how they think casino should be run? Right.....

pmsl , they can all have an opinion mate but seeing as I run my ship the right way the fucking peasants have no room to whinge.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Ive never had a mutiny on my hands.

Ex and current employees comments cannot be ignored,like I said before he was eventually sacked , the truth will come out.

You let those peasants share their opinions how they think casino should be run? Right.....

pmsl , they can all have an opinion mate but seeing as I run my ship the right way the fucking peasants have no room to whinge.

See, I think that's pretty much how Mancini thought!

[john@staustell]

3 at the back was a big mistake. Doing it again was a bigger one. Then doing it yet again............

As soon as they move into that we cant pick up the right men, or any men at all. Every time. Insane stubborn-ness.

Partly agreed.

Correct from a mere technical point of view, as I've said many times, but wrong for the sake of enhancement of a top Club side.
I know that tactical competence is still largely perceived like a secondary duty in England, but to say that top defenders, earning 100k/w and more, don't fit the bill of having different competences available for the swap is just unprofessional.

They obviously weren't coached right for it. They spent years sliding across the training pitch with a back 4,4 or 4,5, then as soon as they switch to 3 you can see the uncertainty. Doesn't matter how quality the defender is if the man on your right and left doesn't know who to pick up how can you?

[s1ty m]

Spending a combined £70 million on Balotelli, Dzeko and Nasri and then having the gall to complain about a lack of transfer funds.

This, I suppose, though the money wasted on Kolarov, Savic, Sinclair, Maicon, Rodwell and so on, is a strong call too. So, his transfers were mainly shit.

[kinkylola]

More and more i've been thinking that Mancini made decisions solely to spite those who would not bend to his will.

I think 352 is an example of this ... there is no way that after the ridiculous pre-season attempts at it, and the repeated failures of it in Europe and the league, that it should even have been considered for use in the FA cup final. It is my theory that the 352 was entirely created to prove a point to management. After that, a mixture of stubbornness and arrogance meant that Mancini could never come back from that decision, or admit he was wrong in trying to implement it. Which ruined every aspect of our season.

I like Mancini a lot. As a former player, as a manager ... I think he has a lot of good points. And stubbornness and arrogance can be strong points when you're at the top, just look at the scum. But when those traits lead you to stick with a losing formation, and throw others under the bus ... you're just asking for the sack.

We simply have not had a coach in recent memory who knew what a plan B was, or how to effectively implement one. Plan B doesn't have to be a radical formation change ... but it does have to be practiced and rehearsed. It seems like our 352 was just something that Mancini expected players to pick up on the fly. Pretty poor.

[brite blu sky]

Not sure about biggest mistake. Plenty of mistakes, like never taking Yaya off despite being as useful as a sack of spuds sat in the centre circle.
Traits that cause problems I'd say was his downfall and will be again.

- oversensitive to challenges to his perceived authority ( from staff or players ).
- stubborn without limits - no sense of the possibility of being in the wrong. ( spoilt child style ).
- seemingly having to run everything in the show, well documented attention to detail and telling others how to run things... a by product of that is probably lack of any inclusiveness from others, all the ideas had to be his. That is a big big weakness in any leader.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Not sure about biggest mistake. Plenty of mistakes, like never taking Yaya off despite being as useful as a sack of spuds sat in the centre circle.

We've had Gareth Barry fannying around there for most of the season and someone even BOTHERS mentioning YaYa.

[brite blu sky]

Not sure about biggest mistake. Plenty of mistakes, like never taking Yaya off despite being as useful as a sack of spuds sat in the centre circle.

We've had Gareth Barry fannying around there for most of the season and someone even BOTHERS mentioning YaYa.

[strike]well why didn't you mention him then[/strike]. No scrub that I couldn't care less.